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TSA Confiscates Pregnant Woman's Insulin, Ice Packs
7News ^ | August 4, 2011 | Marc Stewart

Posted on 08/04/2011 10:20:51 PM PDT by george76

Security Tells Woman Isulin Vial Was An Explosives Risk.

Aaron Nieman is frustrated, after his pregnant wife's insulin and ice packs were confiscated by TSA screeners at Denver International Airport on Thursday afternoon.

The couple has traveled around the world with her supplies and have never encountered any troubles before. "It made me feel upset and made me feel somewhat helpless," he said.

His wife is traveling alone to a baby shower in Phoenix. She asked us not to use her name for fear of security and retaliation for speaking out.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: amerika; insulin; patriotact; progressive; progressiveamerika; radiation; republican; safety; scanners; security; tsa; tsadishonestly; tsapervs; tsascreeners
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1 posted on 08/04/2011 10:20:56 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

It is very disturbing that the husband feels a need, in the United States of America, to withhold his wife’s name for fear of retaliation. That’s what people usually have to do in totalitarian states. Welcome to Obamaville.


2 posted on 08/04/2011 10:29:12 PM PDT by SFmom
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To: george76

I thought you are allowed to carry required medical supplies with you, even liquid exceeding the limits, as long as you had valid and legitimate medical reasons? Did the TSA screw up again?


3 posted on 08/04/2011 10:30:17 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: SFmom
Yes, you are right.

I have read the TSA is taking names of all who give them trouble, and have even read they are including those who opt out, so I can understand the reaction.

4 posted on 08/04/2011 10:33:13 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: SFmom
Attempted murder.

Insulin is absolute for a diabetic's life, isn't it?

I can't be sure it's insulin sounds the same as I didn't know the gun was loaded.

5 posted on 08/04/2011 10:33:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SFmom

So many of the actions of the TSA can be better understood by noting that they parallel those of totalitarian states. The screeners, by exercising control of the public’s access to private businesses, are re-creating the early actions of the sturmabteilung. The TSA agents who subject travelers to retaliation for standing up for themselves are this generation’s zampolit. And someone who would confiscate insulin from a diabetic ... well, that’s someone who is working towards reinstating the einstatzgruppen.


6 posted on 08/04/2011 10:43:50 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: george76

How long, Oh Lord?


7 posted on 08/04/2011 10:44:40 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: george76

The TSA has long since become a national scandal and a national disgrace, yet no one seems inclined to do anything about it.


8 posted on 08/04/2011 10:46:55 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: george76
She asked us not to use her name for fear of security and retaliation for speaking out.

a young mother to be, afraid for her safety living in the country. doing nothing illegal, just traveling.

welcome to Amerika, 2011.

the progressive Amerika

0bama's Amerika

9 posted on 08/04/2011 10:48:00 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

How many Americans, that we simply haven’t heard about from the State Run media, have these sub-human monsters assassinated?


10 posted on 08/04/2011 10:48:50 PM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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To: knarf
Attempted murder.

Nope. Low grade stupid. The TSA is unionized, so stupid has no consequences. For them.

BTW, attempted murder would have been better. Without the idiots who just thought they were running cattle cars, several million Jewish civilians wouldn't have been exterminated in Nazi Germany...

11 posted on 08/04/2011 10:51:11 PM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: sten; neverdem; bonesmccoy

At the news article’s website, someone speculated that her insulin bottles, which are far smaller than the maximum size liquid container permitted as carry on luggage, possibly lacked prescription labels. What percentage of Americans need injectable insulin? Any doctors know? This can’t be a new issue. Even the dork thug could have clued her in to the proper protocol for carrying medications rather than being a gratuitous bully about it.


12 posted on 08/04/2011 10:54:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: george76

I wonder if the airline industry knows how much damage this is doing to their business and bottom line?

They sure seem awfully quiet about all this BS.

Every day... another TSA story... but nothing from the airlines fighting back.

I wouldn’t fly even if it were free... just to avoid the hassle.


13 posted on 08/04/2011 10:58:29 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: jonascord

Don’t know. The TSA does, however, routinely radiate men, women, children, cancer survivors, people who are predisposed to get cancer, pregnant people, the elderly, et cetera, with a radiation pattern that:

has never before been tested on humans
is not known to be safe
is likely to be far more dangerous than stated

There is a high probability that people will die as a result of this radiation exposure. There is 100% certainty that the TSA does not know the opposite to be true, i.e. that no one will die as a result of their actions. And yet, they keep on doing it, day after day, person after person.

For what it’s worth, the Hopkins studies that the TSA dishonestly claims show the scanners are safe, indicated that the radiation dose at the entry and exit regions outside the scanners were 19% of the stated radiation dose within the scanner. That means that the TSA agents who work in those entry and exit regions are being radiated with 19% of the radiation delivered to the people inside the scanners. Over and over and over again. That radiation adds up pretty quick (though, admittedly, the scanning characteristics of the radiation in the entry / exit zones are likely very different than the scanning characteristics within the machine itself.) Something to think about.


14 posted on 08/04/2011 10:58:37 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: george76

15 posted on 08/04/2011 10:59:21 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Safrguns

Bammy will bail them out.


16 posted on 08/04/2011 11:00:21 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: rawhide

The TSA always screws up. It’s their motto “Tough Shit America”.

They’d have fun with my defibrilator and stents. They’d probably want me to take them out and show them. Problem with that. I can’t carry a knife to cut open my chest to pull them out. A real Catch-22.

Time to dismantle TSA and start over again, with a leader with an IQ above 2 and staff who have some common sense.

Obama really has destroyed America.


17 posted on 08/04/2011 11:05:28 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: george76

Ice in a bottle is allowed but the TSA smurfs never know that. If you ask for a manager, they will overrule them. You can’t have any liquid in the bottle though (drain any melt before bringing bottle through). This rule came through after TSA let Spears through a check point with a cup of ice and since they’re always right...

The insulin bit is crazy. Lots of people use it while traveling.


18 posted on 08/04/2011 11:21:46 PM PDT by jimnm
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To: Jubal Harshaw

When they came out with the two nude-o-tube technologies, I was skeptical about the radiation (the one with a box on each side is the one to worry about, the tube less so) but you can be sure that the unionized TSA workers will be filing a massive lawsuit in 10-15 years over radiation exposure and will receive a huge payout. Since government has no problem giving away other people’s money to favored minority groups and labor unions, the payout will sail through.


19 posted on 08/04/2011 11:24:43 PM PDT by jimnm
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To: SFmom

>> Welcome to Obamaville.

Indeed.


20 posted on 08/04/2011 11:26:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (May our dreams converge for a free and prosperous nation.)
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To: george76

She asked us not to use her name for fear of security and retaliation for speaking out.

. . .

People increasingly fear the government and that’s chilling.

Going to be LOTS of fun when they have complete control over our health care as well.


21 posted on 08/04/2011 11:28:11 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: Jack Hammer
The TSA has long since become a national scandal and a national disgrace, yet no one seems inclined to do anything about it.

Bush's fault.

22 posted on 08/05/2011 12:10:39 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Safrguns
I wonder if the airline industry knows how much damage this is doing to their business and bottom line?

I'm sure thay have the statistics. do you?

They sure seem awfully quiet about all this BS.

Maybe the press isn't carrying the message.

Every day... another TSA story... but nothing from the airlines fighting back.

same answer.

I wouldn’t fly even if it were free... just to avoid the hassle.

I'm willing to drive across the continent but not row across the Atlantic or pacific. And you?

23 posted on 08/05/2011 12:19:02 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Safrguns
I wonder if the airline industry knows how much damage this is doing to their business and bottom line?

I'm sure thay have the statistics. do you?

They sure seem awfully quiet about all this BS.

Maybe the press isn't carrying the message.

Every day... another TSA story... but nothing from the airlines fighting back.

same answer.

I wouldn’t fly even if it were free... just to avoid the hassle.

I'm willing to drive across the continent but not row across the Atlantic or pacific. And you?

24 posted on 08/05/2011 12:19:09 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: george76

TSA agents ... Stupid, barely literate thugs who, in the real world, are not qualified to ask “ Do you want fries with that?”

And these buffoons are supposed to protect the flying public?

Yeah ... Right!


25 posted on 08/05/2011 12:28:38 AM PDT by kschockeynut87 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my GOD, my family and my country.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Isn’t everything!


26 posted on 08/05/2011 1:14:23 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: knarf

Insulin IS necessar for diabetics. The good new, if such there be in this, is that her doc can call her Rx into a pharmacy in Phoenix and she can get more there. Or TSA could send out to her on the next flight and deliver directly to her.

Wasn’t there a major brouhaha post-9/11 about airline screeners HAVING to be public servants (using the term loosely), and not employees of private companies? That was really effective.


27 posted on 08/05/2011 1:22:44 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: george76

The worst part of the whole TSA mess is that the agency and their procedures are not there to make anyone safe. They are there to make the gullible feel safe.


28 posted on 08/05/2011 1:26:35 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

No, it doesn’t even really make the gullible safe.

It’s all about sublimating the welfare of the public to the needs of the state. It’s why the TSA and the police are both acting like thugs these days.


29 posted on 08/05/2011 2:09:48 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Yes and why not? People keep accepting it and getting on planes. Sheep.


30 posted on 08/05/2011 2:33:29 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: george76
It makes more sense why the TSA was advertising and recruiting job openings on pizza boxes.

they wanted a caliber of people that would just do the job as told, kind of like robots, regardless of what was involved.

31 posted on 08/05/2011 2:54:09 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The prescription labels are on the box, not the bottles. The labels are too big to fit directly on the vial.

Second, all insulin carry packs I am aware of do not accommodate the box. Carry packs can hold the glucose meter, a syringe or two, test strips and the vial.


32 posted on 08/05/2011 3:19:15 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: EDINVA

Yes, she could get more at a pharmacy in Phoenix, but most insurance companies will not pay for a prescription that is not about to run out. For example, I cannot get my refills until I’m within 7 days of needing them again. On a 90 day refill, that means if I try to get them sooner than 83 days after I last got them, the insurance company won’t pay. I would have to pay for the prescription out-of-pocket and the insurance company won’t reimburse me.


33 posted on 08/05/2011 3:26:26 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Maybe we should supply a few of these unionized folks with a dosimeter film badge for a day or two...

then we might see how willing they are to scan away ....?


34 posted on 08/05/2011 3:26:58 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: free me

I think the American people will stand and say, “enough!”, at some point.


35 posted on 08/05/2011 3:35:23 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

I hope so.


36 posted on 08/05/2011 3:45:16 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: rawhide
"It is the traveler's responsibility to have proper government issued identification and a boarding pass; to cooperate with applicable screening procedures and instructions and to communicate their disability or health related needs.

"Liquid medications should be labeled, and those in quantities larger than 3.4 ounces (100ml) each need to be separated from other carry-on items and declared to the security officer as medically necessary. A declaration can be made verbally, in writing, or by a person's companion, caregiver, interpreter, or family member. Liquids in excess of 3.4 ounces will require additional screening."

Did she follow their procedures or did they screw up.

37 posted on 08/05/2011 3:46:43 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: george76

sfl


38 posted on 08/05/2011 5:35:11 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: All

The reason we have the TSA out of control is first and foremost because we have allowed a Moslem to rule America and agin equally as destructive to our freedom the acceptance of Islam in America.

There is only several logical solutions, remove Obama and then adopt the Israeli profiling methods against a common enemy and that is the brainwashed dammed that worship Islam.


39 posted on 08/05/2011 5:42:49 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Daniel J. Ramsey 1956-2012)
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To: george76

My husband’s insulin comes in pens(syringes) not bottles, this woman is behind the times. Even when it did come in bottles the bottles were tiny.


40 posted on 08/05/2011 5:51:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

>>> Maybe the press isn’t carrying the message.

probably the most intelligent thing you said.


41 posted on 08/05/2011 6:29:06 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: george76

My Father in law is a diabetic. He stopped flying because he just got sick of the extra rude attention and he wasn’t interested in risking his life because a TSA agent was an idiot.


42 posted on 08/05/2011 7:11:25 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: sten
welcome to Amerika, 2011.

the progressive Amerika

0bama's Amerika

Sorry, but this is a bipartisan monstrocity. TSA is a Bush creation. Nothing he did regarding the TSA while in office would make me believe he would make any more efforts to restrain these storm troopers than obama will.

43 posted on 08/05/2011 7:27:40 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: SFmom
It is very disturbing that the husband feels a need, in the United States of America, to withhold his wife’s name for fear of retaliation. That’s what people usually have to do in totalitarian states. Welcome to Obamaville.

I for one have read a few published stories in the past several months where the TSA has indeed retaliated against people in the past for daring to speak out about the abuses they have had to endear at the hands of some of the rouge TSA agents who apparently developed the God personality and decided that you were just lowly peasants in their eyes and act accordingly.

44 posted on 08/05/2011 7:37:45 AM PDT by Ron H. (Help your neighbor find a job and the economy - turn in an illegal alien job thief.)
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To: jonascord
How long, Oh Lord?

Indeed, how long?

45 posted on 08/05/2011 7:39:17 AM PDT by Ron H. (Help your neighbor find a job and the economy - turn in an illegal alien job thief.)
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To: sten
0bama's Amerika

Ehh, I believe it was Bush that gave life to this monstrosity known by its deadly acronym, the TSA, otherwise as its come to be known by, the Totalitarian Submissive Administration.

46 posted on 08/05/2011 7:45:53 AM PDT by Ron H. (Help your neighbor find a job and the economy - turn in an illegal alien job thief.)
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To: Ditter
My husband’s insulin comes in pens(syringes) not bottles, this woman is behind the times. Even when it did come in bottles the bottles were tiny.

Understood but for many that is not a viable option as the costs for that type of delivery is more than some can afford I would imagine. I could be wrong but I was told that the pen method is a good bit more pricey than the vial and needle method.

47 posted on 08/05/2011 7:50:34 AM PDT by Ron H. (Help your neighbor find a job and the economy - turn in an illegal alien job thief.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Did she follow their procedures or did they screw up.

Here's my take on this particular situation: the story says she was pregnant. It might have been gestational diabetes, which normally only lasts the duration of the pregnancy. So being a temporarly insulin user, a) she may not have been aware of the proper procedures for carrying insulin; and b) may have been unaware of her rights as an insulin-dependent diabetic and how to respond.

I carry insulin, and what I do is this: I separate out my insulin pack from my carry-on prior to the screening; I announce to the screener that I am a diabetic, and present my insulin pack; the screener inspects the pack, and hands it back to me. I have yet to encounter a dumbass TSA screener who did not know this, but if I did, I would politely ask them to check with their supervisor. So far, this has worked for me, and I travel regularly.

48 posted on 08/05/2011 8:07:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Ron H.

You’re not wrong, it is much more expensive. The pens are extremely clever - genius, even - but are patented and still priced at monopoly levels.

Many health insurance plans have not only a flat co-pay but also a 10% or more coinsurance, and have price incentives for generic drugs, so people who are price-sensitive in these plans will opt for the vials instead.


49 posted on 08/05/2011 8:07:45 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What percentage of Americans need injectable insulin?

Most diabetics use insulin pens these days. No prescription label on those. I've never had a problem getting them through at an airport.

50 posted on 08/05/2011 8:11:07 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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