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Stock index futures fall; all eyes on payrolls
Reuters ^ | 8/5/11 | Blaise Robinson

Posted on 08/05/2011 3:14:07 AM PDT by markomalley

Stock index futures pointed to a lower open on Wall Street on Friday, adding to the two-week slump as investors continued to sell, spooked by the prospect of another recession.

At 0900 GMT, futures for the S&P 500 down 0.48 percent, Dow Jones futures down 0.7 percent and Nasdaq 100 futures down 0.35 percent.

Investors braced for the all-important U.S. monthly non-farm payrolls as well as the unemployment rate, due at 1230 GMT on Friday, seeking more insight on the extent of the damage in the labor market following a string of bleak macroeconomic data.

Economists see payrolls up by 85,000, according to a Reuters survey, after a tepid 18,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2 percent.

Japan's Nikkei average dropped 3.7 percent while European stock indexes shed 2 percent in morning trade on Friday, heading toward a weekly loss of more than 10 percent.

"The reality of a global economic contraction seems to have finally kicked in as the markets continue to plummet across Europe," ETX Capital senior trader Manoj Ladwa said.

(Excerpt) Read more at old.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
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1 posted on 08/05/2011 3:14:08 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

We lost two guys in our department.


2 posted on 08/05/2011 3:22:04 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: markomalley
Economists see payrolls up by 85,000, according to a Reuters survey, after a tepid 18,000 gain in June. The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2 percent.

...after a month of 400(+)K/wk initial claims, 12(+)K/wk increases in continuing claims and near 0% growth? LOL!!

3 posted on 08/05/2011 3:23:05 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: markomalley
The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2 percent.

This is BS. Hold steady? How the he** is it doing that when massive layoffs in most of the states took place this month. The libs lie constantly to try and prop up the Bozo.

4 posted on 08/05/2011 3:23:36 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Roccus

Thats what I was thinking. The actual numbers may be unexpected. Or, tampered with.


5 posted on 08/05/2011 3:24:38 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: calex59

the government is lying to us. Do you think there is ANY chance that the numbers released today will be bad?

lol

They will release #’s that are expected or just above expected then over time (many years) will gradually revise them down quitely to what they actually were.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 3:36:34 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: markomalley
what on earth do they hope the jobs report will do for them?
7 posted on 08/05/2011 3:43:15 AM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: _a_0_0_

“what on earth do they hope the jobs report will do for them?”

Persuade stupid people that Obama’s policies are working; a lot of the outright lies are targeting those of us still working, trying to draw some votes from those that they hope don’t realize how dire the situation is.


8 posted on 08/05/2011 3:49:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: markomalley

IMO, the embargo on the numbers will be (quietly) broken and there will be a wave of front running.
Watch the futures between 7:30 and 8:30 EDT and see which way they run.


9 posted on 08/05/2011 3:49:40 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: markomalley
The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2 percent.

Cooked books: the real unemployment number is about 22%.


10 posted on 08/05/2011 3:49:55 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: _a_0_0_
what on earth do they hope the jobs report will do for them?

I was thinking the same thing.

I watched liberal on MSNBC get very nervous yesterday while taking a phone call from an investor. He spilled the beans as to one reason why markets all over the world are in a panic: our our Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) recently got caught lying about growth for the past 3 years, and about inflation. Real economic growth was lower by 2 to 2.5% LESS than what they reported!

This is a scandal, one that the Lame-stream Media has so far been successful in suppressing.

The U.S. propaganda-machine tells us that the “Great Recession” ended in March 2009, while the BLS has been reporting monthly “job gains” in nearly every report since that time. As a matter of simple arithmetic, if the U.S. economy began adding jobs in the Spring of 2009 (and the job losses had supposedly eased in the months immediately prior to that), then when we looked at the total number of employed workers in the U.S. (as calculated by the same BLS) we should have seen the year-over-year numbers turn positive no later than the end of 2009. This is not what the BLS’ own data indicates. In its own “Comparison of All Employees” (seasonally adjusted) we see that December of 2009 marked the absolute bottom for total employment in the U.S. In other words, during the first eight months of “job creation” during this supposed “economic recovery” the U.S. economy lost more jobs on a net basis.............Thus, as we near the mid-point of 2011, here is the reality of the U.S. economy – minus the lies of the BLS. At best, since the U.S. “Great Recession” supposedly ended the U.S. economy has added roughly 1 million new jobs: less than one new job for every eight lost-jobs which have (officially) been recorded since the U.S. economy crashed.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 3:55:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: markomalley
I think the “experts” are low-balling the numbers. My guess is 110,000 (”better than expected”) but the unemployment rate rises to 9.3%.
12 posted on 08/05/2011 3:56:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: calex59

“This is BS. Hold steady? How the he** is it doing that when massive layoffs in most of the states took place this month. The libs lie constantly to try and prop up the Bozo.”

The statistics are manipulated every month to keep the unemployment rate under 10%. This is done by reducing the quantity of people “looking for work” as well as the assumption about the size of the workforce. People who are not looking for work are not considered “unemployed”.

I also understand they remove you from the “unemployed” if you are denied unemployment insurance or if your unemployment benefits run out. Many males in the inner city who are hanging out on the corner and not actively looking for work are not considered “unemployed” by the government. Certainly the welfare queens sitting back and collecting government assistance are not counted as unemployed. The government also does’t count the “discouraged” as unemployed. These are defined as people who are not “actively” seeking employment because they’ve been worn down from months of rejection.

From the perspective of those of us in the private sector, we know the unemployment rate is well over 10%. The real rate is likely at depression levels (over 20%). If we had a robust economy, and the government safety net wasn’t so liberal in dispensing benefits, the size of the labor force would be much higher.

Another observation. Almost every government statistic pertaining to economic health is revised a month or two later in a direction that shows further deterioration.

The plain truth - the government lies. It isn’t just Obama. We had the same thing under Bush.


13 posted on 08/05/2011 4:04:23 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: markomalley
Economists see payrolls up by 85,000, according to a Reuters survey

By mid-week:  .. we unexpectedly reported 'up' instead of 'down' ..

Of course, that's if a shred of conscience could be amalgamated at Reuters .. otherwise *crickets*

14 posted on 08/05/2011 4:29:29 AM PDT by tomkat (1775)
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To: markomalley

-——as investors continued to sell-——

every share sold was bought


15 posted on 08/05/2011 4:34:20 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Soul of the South

We didn’t have The Obama Depression under Bush.


16 posted on 08/05/2011 4:42:03 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: markomalley

Of course they will announce an inflated number today to try to stop this nonsense and then announce an adjustment downward in a couple of weeks...

It is amazing just how badly these clowns in DC hate the truth.


17 posted on 08/05/2011 4:45:55 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Soul of the South

Zero’s government lies. The economy under Pres. Bush was remarkably better, particularly when you factor in the effect of 9/11. Sure it wasn’t perfect but nothing like this was going on. In fact if anything the reporting was designed to suppress good news and lament “high” unemployment when it got over 5%.

They are contorting themselves into pretzels to keep that unemployment rate under the magic number of 10%. The Pravda-esque media we have is completely culpable as is Zero’s bunch.


18 posted on 08/05/2011 4:49:37 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: markomalley
Everybody is onto this government version of a slick shell game. I have read in several places if the rate was calculated like it used to to be it would be in the neigborhood of 22 or 23%.

Futures are down 0.48%, that's a little better than I thought would happen (i.e 50 point drop at the Bell) So as far as the employment number, watch it stay the same based on Obama's magic math.

19 posted on 08/05/2011 4:57:47 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: All
Newmont mining here in Elko Nevada is actively seeking mine truck drivers and they will train. The pay and bennies are decent. Just thought I would throw that out there for anyone looking for work.
20 posted on 08/05/2011 5:01:13 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: kearnyirish2

This economy will continue to limp along until Obamer is outta there. It’s the elephant in the room, we all know it, thank me for pointing it out.

I suspect after this coming weekend the stock market will calm down though it might well go below 10,000. Then it will limp along with crossed fingers until 2012. If Obamer should somehow win again, forgetaboutit.

He will then have free rein to destroy this country as is his plan.

The stock market fall was but a culmination of a desultory economic climb capped off by that terribly poor showing in D.C. over America’s debt ceiling. The investing class is not happy but look on the bright side. The Blue Blood Ruling Class is delighted.


21 posted on 08/05/2011 5:11:28 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/201102/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: markomalley
The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 9.2 percent.


22 posted on 08/05/2011 5:15:41 AM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: markomalley
Dow Jones futures down 0.7 percent

Hey, look at the bright side: after yesterday, 0.7% isn't as big as it used to be.

23 posted on 08/05/2011 5:43:20 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: tnlibertarian

Hey, look at the bright side: after yesterday, 0.7% isn’t as big as it used to be.
...............
LOL


24 posted on 08/05/2011 5:48:39 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: All

unemployment “down” to 9.1, not all that bad but I’ll wait for the revisions next week.


25 posted on 08/05/2011 5:48:48 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: markomalley

Prints at 9.1% and +117,000 in line with the 115,000 expectations.


26 posted on 08/05/2011 5:49:00 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

fudged to high hell.


27 posted on 08/05/2011 5:50:17 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars
fudged to high hell.


28 posted on 08/05/2011 6:00:32 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: SkyPilot
Cooked books: the real unemployment number is about 22%.

Obama and his administration's attack on our economy make the Enron white collar crooks look like amateurs.

29 posted on 08/05/2011 7:48:37 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: markomalley

This morning, in the first half hour, Dow fell over 200 points, then did a modest rally and slumped again. I’m glad I lost all my money and got out years ago, while the getting was still good.


30 posted on 08/05/2011 8:04:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: John W

“We didn’t have The Obama Depression under Bush.”

True and I voted for Bush twice. However, the standard of living for the average American family did not increase during the 8 years of Bush and the budget deficit doubled in his 8 years. Plus his lack of enforcement of immigration laws allowed millions of illegals into the country increasing the cost of government social services. He also added huge government costs in the form of “no child left behind”, Medicare prescription drugs, and two foreign wars with no end in sight. His Treasury Department, working with the Federal Reserve, pursued a “weak dollar” low interest rate strategy contributing greatly to the housing bubble and dramatically lowering the return on savings of millions of middle class retirees. Furthermore he perpetuated the one sided “free trade” policies of his father and Clinton which have resulted in the deindustrialization of this country and the destruction of millions of middle class jobs. As a conservative the biggest issue I have with Bush was him abdicating his responsibility during the September 2008 financial crisis resulting in Paulson and Bernanke allowing Wall Street to loot the Treasury and then acquiescing in passing TARP so the new Democrat administration would have a multibillion dollar slush fund to begin its reign over the American people.

From my perspective Bush was a mediocre to poor President. He failed to exercise any budget discipline. After 9/11 he got us into two wars with constantly changing objectives and no defined “victory”. He allowed his opponents to control the agenda by not fighting back. After Katrina he seemed to totally give up. George Bush was not up to the job because he had no clear vision for America and no understanding that the biggest threat to personal freedom was limiting the power and size of the federal government. Bush, aided the growth of government and failed to use his veto power to put a brake on the excesses of Congress. He may have loved his country but his administration perpetuated the growth of big government and his political ineptness established the conditions that resulted in the election of Obama and the super-Democrat majority in Congress which gave us accelerated runaway spending and Obamacare.

Bush may have been a “nice guy” but calling oneself a conservative does not make one a conservative. Bush was a believer in big government and a big spender. 1/3 of our current $14 billion national debt is attributable to his 8 years. Obama may be far worse but Bush was the biggest spender by far of all presidents up to Obama. Had he sustained the balanced budget he inherited, our economic mess would not be as bad as it is today. In fact, had he sustained the balanced budget the Republicans could have turned Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s profligate spending into a major and powerful political issue.


31 posted on 08/05/2011 8:29:55 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Soul of the South

Great post. Don’t forget he signed the CFR bill too.


32 posted on 08/05/2011 8:44:46 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: Soul of the South
..ditto, great post, only to add all recent handjobs posing as presidents are mere counter boys for international banksters.

I know that sounds harsh to little girls who think we're still in the game, but the sooner we face facts the better off we'll be.

33 posted on 08/05/2011 9:04:57 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: Soul of the South

“a believer in big government “

Big government labor camp now, with the media as government “life-coaches.”


34 posted on 08/05/2011 10:46:57 AM PDT by Varsity Flight
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35 posted on 08/05/2011 11:31:03 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: John W
Thats what I was thinking. The actual numbers may be unexpected. Or, tampered with.

I completely lost confidence in the unemployment statistics when Clinton started messing with how they are calculated. Clinton's presidency made me a conservative; Obama made me Tea Party.

36 posted on 08/05/2011 11:34:22 AM PDT by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: Soul of the South

Spot on.


37 posted on 08/05/2011 1:43:10 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: markomalley

no way am I hiring until after obama and the democrats are out of power.

I wonder if it would be possible to create offshore microcountries to park profits? and oil rig with only banks.


38 posted on 08/05/2011 2:52:58 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: markomalley

I think the time has come for all the tarp banks. which is all of them, to write off all the mortgages and essentially fresh start all the loans up to say 200k. does it suck? yes. but we simply couple that with banker and lawyer perp walks.


39 posted on 08/05/2011 3:01:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: John W; Soul of the South
We didn’t have The Obama Depression under Bush.

No, we just had a near-meltdown in 2008, followed by a few big bailouts.

40 posted on 08/05/2011 6:53:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: GatorGirl; Soul of the South
The economy under Pres. Bush was remarkably better

The Bush economy was nothing more than a massive credit bubble.

41 posted on 08/05/2011 6:58:02 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Soul of the South; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; Avoiding_Sulla; indylindy; Kimberly GG; ...
...the standard of living for the average American family did not increase during the 8 years of Bush and the budget deficit doubled in his 8 years. Plus his lack of enforcement of immigration laws allowed millions of illegals into the country increasing the cost of government social services. He also added huge government costs in the form of “no child left behind”, Medicare prescription drugs, and two foreign wars with no end in sight. His Treasury Department, working with the Federal Reserve, pursued a “weak dollar” low interest rate strategy contributing greatly to the housing bubble and dramatically lowering the return on savings of millions of middle class retirees. Furthermore he perpetuated the one sided “free trade” policies of his father and Clinton which have resulted in the deindustrialization of this country and the destruction of millions of middle class jobs. As a conservative the biggest issue I have with Bush was him abdicating his responsibility during the September 2008 financial crisis resulting in Paulson and Bernanke allowing Wall Street to loot the Treasury and then acquiescing in passing TARP so the new Democrat administration would have a multibillion dollar slush fund to begin its reign over the American people.

From my perspective Bush was a mediocre to poor President. He failed to exercise any budget discipline. After 9/11 he got us into two wars with constantly changing objectives and no defined “victory”. He allowed his opponents to control the agenda by not fighting back. After Katrina he seemed to totally give up. George Bush was not up to the job because he had no clear vision for America and no understanding that the biggest threat to personal freedom was limiting the power and size of the federal government. Bush, aided the growth of government and failed to use his veto power to put a brake on the excesses of Congress. He may have loved his country but his administration perpetuated the growth of big government and his political ineptness established the conditions that resulted in the election of Obama and the super-Democrat majority in Congress which gave us accelerated runaway spending and Obamacare.

Bush may have been a “nice guy” but calling oneself a conservative does not make one a conservative. Bush was a believer in big government and a big spender. 1/3 of our current $14 billion national debt is attributable to his 8 years. Obama may be far worse but Bush was the biggest spender by far of all presidents up to Obama. Had he sustained the balanced budget he inherited, our economic mess would not be as bad as it is today. In fact, had he sustained the balanced budget the Republicans could have turned Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s profligate spending into a major and powerful political issue.

You win the award for most insightful post of the day.

42 posted on 08/05/2011 7:00:13 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Except for this statement being pure bullshit-”Had he sustained the balanced budget he inherited, our economic mess would not be as bad as it is today.”

As if Obama wouldn’t have just spent whatever it took to destroy the country. Some folks blind hatred of Bush somehow makes them also blind to exactly what Obama is. Wouldn’t surprise me if some of the haters voted for Obama.


43 posted on 08/05/2011 7:04:18 PM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: rabscuttle385; Soul of the South; DoughtyOne; Impy; Avoiding_Sulla; indylindy; Kimberly GG

...the standard of living for the average American family did not increase during the 8 years of Bush and the budget deficit doubled in his 8 years. Plus his lack of enforcement of immigration laws allowed millions of illegals into the country increasing the cost of government social services. He also added huge government costs in the form of “no child left behind”, Medicare prescription drugs, and two foreign wars with no end in sight. His Treasury Department, working with the Federal Reserve, pursued a “weak dollar” low interest rate strategy contributing greatly to the housing bubble and dramatically lowering the return on savings of millions of middle class retirees. Furthermore he perpetuated the one sided “free trade” policies of his father and Clinton which have resulted in the deindustrialization of this country and the destruction of millions of middle class jobs. As a conservative the biggest issue I have with Bush was him abdicating his responsibility during the September 2008 financial crisis resulting in Paulson and Bernanke allowing Wall Street to loot the Treasury and then acquiescing in passing TARP so the new Democrat administration would have a multibillion dollar slush fund to begin its reign over the American people.
From my perspective Bush was a mediocre to poor President. He failed to exercise any budget discipline. After 9/11 he got us into two wars with constantly changing objectives and no defined “victory”. He allowed his opponents to control the agenda by not fighting back. After Katrina he seemed to totally give up. George Bush was not up to the job because he had no clear vision for America and no understanding that the biggest threat to personal freedom was limiting the power and size of the federal government. Bush, aided the growth of government and failed to use his veto power to put a brake on the excesses of Congress. He may have loved his country but his administration perpetuated the growth of big government and his political ineptness established the conditions that resulted in the election of Obama and the super-Democrat majority in Congress which gave us accelerated runaway spending and Obamacare.

Bush may have been a “nice guy” but calling oneself a conservative does not make one a conservative. Bush was a believer in big government and a big spender. 1/3 of our current $14 billion national debt is attributable to his 8 years. Obama may be far worse but Bush was the biggest spender by far of all presidents up to Obama. Had he sustained the balanced budget he inherited, our economic mess would not be as bad as it is today. In fact, had he sustained the balanced budget the Republicans could have turned Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s profligate spending into a major and powerful political issue.

You win the award for most insightful post of the day.RABS

I would go one further. One of the best posts I have ever read at Free Republic.

A tip o the hat to you “Soul of the South!!


44 posted on 08/05/2011 7:28:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: John W; Soul of the South; DoughtyOne; Impy; Avoiding_Sulla; indylindy; Kimberly GG

” Some folks blind hatred of Bush somehow makes them also blind to exactly what Obama is. Wouldn’t surprise me if some of the haters voted for Obama. “

Get off the “Hatred Bus” . Every solitary thing Soul of the South said was verbatim the truth. Bush was a lousy RINO POTUS, and Jim Rob posted so in red ink a couple years ago.


45 posted on 08/05/2011 8:12:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Its interesting on what may very well be his worst day as president, Obama has freepers assisting him in blaming Bush for all the problems he has created himself. Amazing.


46 posted on 08/05/2011 8:20:28 PM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: John W; stephenjohnbanker
Obama has freepers assisting him in blaming Bush for all the problems he has created himself.

Not all of this is Obama's fault. The seeds of today's malaise were planted decades ago and nurtured under subsequent administrations.

That said, Obama is definitely guilty of prolonging the financial agony by screwing things up even more.

47 posted on 08/05/2011 8:57:36 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: John W

” Obama has freepers assisting him in blaming Bush for all the problems he has created himself. Amazing.”

Oh NO NO sir. Obama is a communist and an economic terrorist. You just refuse to face reality, and McCain was worse than Bush. When you run a slimeball like McCain, many conservatives (I said many CONSERVATIVES, won’t vote for him.


48 posted on 08/05/2011 9:05:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ping to 48


49 posted on 08/05/2011 9:33:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Soul of the South; John W; rabscuttle385
Great post Soul of the South. Books have been written.

Obama IS Bush's legacy.

John Derbyshire: Eight Wasted Years
...Margaret Thatcher used to talk about the “ratchet effect.” When the Left gets power, she said, they drive everything Left; when the Right gets power, they slow the Leftward drive, perhaps even halt it for a spell; but nothing ever gets moved to the Right. U.S. politics in the 21st century so far bears out this dismal analysis. What does the Right have to show for eight years of a Republican presidency? I supported George W. Bush in 2000 because I thought he had a conservative bone in his body somewhere. I supported him in 2004 because I thought him the lesser of two evils. At this point, I wouldn’t let the fool park his car in my driveway. Bruce Bartlett was right, every damn word...
Bill Gertz interview on Hannity and Colmes
Gertz: Well he casts himself as a compassionate conservative and I argue that he's neither. That his administration is neither. He's done tremendous damage to the conservative movement...


50 posted on 08/06/2011 5:35:16 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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