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Drivers face ticket for running out of gas on I-15 (construction zone in Utah - $97 BUCKS)
KSL ^ | 8/03/11

Posted on 08/05/2011 5:08:23 AM PDT by Libloather

Drivers face ticket for running out of gas on I-15
August 3rd, 2011 @ 8:25am
By ksl.com

UTAH COUNTY -- Drivers who run out of gas through the I-15 construction zone in Utah County could face a ticket.

Troopers have started giving out $97 tickets to motorists whose tanks run dry.

Alan Peterson with UDOT's incident management team told KSL in 2008 that the agency was getting an increasing number of calls about people running out of gas. Peterson thought it was linked to higher gas prices.

UHP now says it's getting about five calls per 10-hour shift from motorists stranded because they're out of gas.

In the Utah County CORE construction zone, a car stopped in the narrow lanes poses a real danger, troopers say. Those vehicles often stop in areas where there are no shoulders to the road.

(Excerpt) Read more at ksl.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drivers; gas; ticket; utah
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1 posted on 08/05/2011 5:08:25 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Don’t tell them you ran out of gas!


2 posted on 08/05/2011 5:13:13 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Libloather

So we’re now being punished for not purchasing a good. Granted, the person driving is an idiot for not gassing up the whip, but at the same time, if they don’t want to or can’t afford to and they run out of gas, how do you think they’re going to be able to afford a $100 traffic ticket?


3 posted on 08/05/2011 5:21:10 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Debtor’s Prisons may have to make a comeback.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 5:23:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Libloather

It’s good to see people being held accountable for their decisions, when they do stupid things.

(....now if only the same were true here in Texas for Governor Perry)


5 posted on 08/05/2011 5:25:57 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Libloather

My city has these special help vehicles that will be on the scene in minutes. They provide a gallon of gas and a battery jump. What I’ve noticed is who is using this service. Welfare queens. They’ll sit in the car chatting on their cell phones while the white female service lady pours in the gas and jumps their car for them. Meanwhile, traffic is backed up for blocks and everybody is inconvenienced. Also, a police cruiser sits behind them with his lights flashing.

Now let’s take a look at where the welfare queen is spending cash. The car is a POS that has never been cleaned or maintained even though some appear relatively new. But the queen herself has a cell phone, glitter nails, three pounds of makeup leather handbag, an incredible hairdo and very nice clothing. But she can’t be bothered with replacing a battery, filling the gas tank or putting air in the tires.

What they should do is call a tow truck and have the POS towed.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 5:26:00 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Libloather

Let’s see. Obama and the libs have worsened the economy, eliminated jobs, driven up the price of gas, forced us to wait in lines of traffic due to stimulus and paying off his union thugs and we get penalized because maybe we don’t have the money for gas. And then they want to fine us. WTF?


7 posted on 08/05/2011 5:30:37 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: rarestia
can’t afford to and they run out of ga

If they can't afford gas they shouldn't be driving. Mechanical breakdowns can happen to anyone. Running our of gas because you'd rather spend your money on something else is just plain poor planning. OTO if you're planning on getting gas at the next exit and the construction has you idling for an hour in a traffic jam then it really isn't your fault. And the fact that they;re running out in a construction zone indicates to me that maybe that's what is happening.

One thing that really irritates me is the construction sign that say "Expect delays." Why should we expect delays? About half of us pay a fortune to the government for its so-called "services" and the best they can do is tell us to "expect delays."

Here in the Atl metro area we have "HERO" trucks that will assist stranded motorists including giving them a gallon of gas if the run out. A lot of people have been running our just to get the free gallon. They should get a ticket.

8 posted on 08/05/2011 5:30:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rarestia
So we’re now being punished for not purchasing a good.
Or, we could look at it as being fined for failure to maintain one's vehicle in proper working order, and causing an unnecessary traffic jam.

After all, driving is not a right.

if they don’t want to or can’t afford to and they run out of gas, how do you think they’re going to be able to afford a $100 traffic ticket?
If they can't or won't pay for the gas to run their car, they shouldn't be driving.
9 posted on 08/05/2011 5:32:08 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: caver

Reminds me of the old Soviet Union — the government oppresses you, imprisons you, eventually shoots you ... and then sends a bill to your family and demands payment for the bullet.


10 posted on 08/05/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sadly, I think we are becoming the Soviet Union.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 5:37:00 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Libloather
How many of these cases are actually caused because someone sits in traffic for hours to move a mile or two than have the problem.

Not from the area so I am not sure if this is part of the problem, but I have seen this in other areas.

12 posted on 08/05/2011 5:43:33 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Minutemen
That's exactly what's going to happen. They will abandon the car and walk (if close enough) or call a friend (if not). It may cut down on the number of gas call incidents or prompt more people to join AAA or other auto clubs since the fine is more than the premium membership. It is unlikely to bring in the revenue envisioned and could result in more draconian legislation such as requiring AAA to rat on their members.

Then there's the question of cause. What if the motorist ran out of gas because they were caught in a highway construction delay?

13 posted on 08/05/2011 5:43:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: from occupied ga; Johnny B.

I agree with you both that if you can’t afford proper maintenance, then you shouldn’t be driving in the first place. However, we all know that’s never the case.

Case in point: my younger brother drives around a truck that is literally ready to fall apart. There are a handful of cotter pins holding nuts on bolts that have since worn down to nothing.

Proper vehicle maintenance is like raising a child: there’s no right way to do it as long as you do it, but there are myriad wrong ways to do it.


14 posted on 08/05/2011 5:44:08 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Appearing in a blue collared shirt with the sleeves rolled up, he denounced Republicans for driving the car of the nation’s economy into a ditch, then standing around “sipping on a slurpee” while he’s tried to push it out.


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15 posted on 08/05/2011 5:50:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Gen.Blather
What they should do is call a tow truck and have the POS towed.
Which POS - the car or the welfare queen?
16 posted on 08/05/2011 5:55:46 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BobL

“It’s good to see people being held accountable for their decisions, when they do stupid things.”
_____________________________
That is absurd.
They should be fined, or held accountable ONLY if
tax payer money is being used to bail them out of their
oversight or stupidity.
Running out of gas is not always the driver’s fault.
There could be a leak, or a faulty gas gauge.


17 posted on 08/05/2011 5:57:01 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Libloather
If such petty-ante oppression is happening in conservative Utah, God help those living in liberal hellholes like New York, California, and Massachusetts. I read a story recently where an 11 year old girl rescued an injured bird who was on the endangered species list. A Federal wildlife officer happened to find out about the girl's actions, and as a result, the mother received a fine of over $500.

I am increasingly persuaded that no one, certainly NONE of the Republican contenders for the White House, will be able to save this country from becoming a mammoth East Germany, albeit one with more creature comforts.

18 posted on 08/05/2011 6:08:13 AM PDT by Wallace T. (Shoot, shovel, and shut up)
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To: rarestia

I drive 15 a lot. It has many stretches that are in the middle of nowhere (but a BEAUTIFUL nowhere). If you’re driving on that highway the odds are that you’re going somwhere in Colorado or Salt Lake City. Therefore, methinks you have the money - - you’re just trying to stretch out the time between refills.


19 posted on 08/05/2011 6:18:11 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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To: Vigilanteman
Then there's the question of cause. What if the motorist ran out of gas because they were caught in a highway construction delay?

I see a few comments like this one. I think that is highly unlikely based on a specific, personal experience. During last year's "Snowmageddon" in DC, I sat in my gas-guzzling SUV for eight hours for an eight mile commute (no exaggeration). Because I had a relatively full tank, I did not worry about running out of gas. I was very interested to observe my overall consumption was not all that extraordinary. And that was eight hours.

As for abandoning the car, then the penalty gets enhanced with towing fees. I am in agreement with this. I have long felt that running out of gas is one of the silliest, unjustifiable reasons for disabled vehicles on the road. To do so in an area with no shoulder or restricted lanes is indefensible.

20 posted on 08/05/2011 6:22:31 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Libloather

This is how we have ended up with so many stupid laws.

Running out of gas is punishment enough.

Cripes. STOP PASSING MORE LAWS. In red state Utah no less.

Stop it!


21 posted on 08/05/2011 6:23:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: BobL

Running out of gas in some places is probably a much greater public safety hazard than driving at 15 over the limit is.


22 posted on 08/05/2011 6:25:14 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Mr. Bird
I'm with you.

There's no good reason to run out of gas, especially on an interstate.

(But there are a lot of lame excuses.)

23 posted on 08/05/2011 6:27:48 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Loud Mime

I would say there’s a certain ‘survival of the fittest’ aspect to cars on the 15 traveling in Utah.

The distances are significant. One really does need to be aware of gassing up where available - it is not wise to let your tank fall below a quarter tank. Smarter to keep it at least half full at all times.

What I suspect might be at work (and it’s not entirely hard to understand) you’ve got a very conservative state whose largest city even is very conservative, through the very middle of which two major interstates intersect - one north/south and one east/west which connect directly with much larger, very liberal blue state California metropoli.

San Francisco, and Los Angeles. It’s been my observation, the residents of Utah are not altogether thrilled about Californians.

I’m betting this law is not about Utah residents.

It’s about liberal Californians - and Utahn frustration with clueless urban liberals wasting their time.

Still, don’t we have enough laws already?


24 posted on 08/05/2011 6:40:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: Libloather

That was the law in Germany when I lived there. They figured it was your fault if you ran out of gas.


25 posted on 08/05/2011 6:59:36 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: AlexW
That is absurd.
They should be fined, or held accountable ONLY if tax payer money is being used to bail them out of their oversight or stupidity.
Running out of gas is not always the driver’s fault. There could be a leak, or a faulty gas gauge.
According to the article, it's the State Highway Patrol doing the rescuing. I don't know if they charge for their service, but they should.

I agree that the hapless driver shouldn't be fined for running out of gas. But I have no trouble with them being fined for disrupting traffic through a construction zone (which is my understanding of what's happening here).

If they have a good excuse for blocking traffic, they can contest the ticket and maybe get the fine reduced or eliminated. But if they are screwing up traffic, it should be up to them to prove that they have an good excuse (and running out of gas typically isn't a good excuse).

Since I spent most of my life in the snow belt, I have always filled my tank when it drops to half full. This way, I don't have to worry about running out of gas just because there is a traffic jam.

26 posted on 08/05/2011 7:22:49 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You’re right, we have enough laws - - - - as of about 60 years ago.

If this is ‘played’ right, there won’t be a problem. Have signs advise drivers of the law. I bet the number of dry tanks will dry up in a hurry.


27 posted on 08/05/2011 7:39:10 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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