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Are you paying to provide free cell service to people with low incomes? [PA free phone & 250 min.]
abc15.com ^ | August 5 2011 | Katrina Schaefer

Posted on 08/05/2011 3:04:01 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Did you know that some of the fees that you pay on your phone bill may actually be providing free cell service to people with low incomes?

A debate started in Pennsylvania after people became aware of the program, which offers a free phone and 250 minutes a month.

Here's how at works:

The FCC requires all phone companies to pay into something called the Universal Service Fund.

Companies get the money they send to the fund by charging you on you bill.

Money from the fund goes to companies who provide the free service to help offset their cost.

People across the country are using this free service and if you have a cell phone, you're paying for it.

Supporters say the cell phone provides a needed lifeline that helps people get to doctors and stay in touch with loved ones.

Critics say cell phone service isn't a right. Read more about this story.

What do you think about this?

Watch the discussion on this story by viewing the attached Now@9 video.

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/now_at_nine/are-you-paying-to-provide-free-cell-service-to-people-with-low-incomes#ixzz1UC3B3k3F


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: freephone; phone; telephone; universalservicefund; welfare

1 posted on 08/05/2011 3:04:04 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Free GM union cars and gas in areas that lack public transportation will be coming soon.


2 posted on 08/05/2011 3:05:20 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: NoLibZone

Eh. It’s a lie anyway. I have a friend on disability who thought to subscribe to something like this, and ended up at the end of the month with a 50 dollar bill with all of the then fees explained in small print. If it makes you feel any better people get it stuck to them in the end anyway.


3 posted on 08/05/2011 3:06:45 PM PDT by Anj-ela
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To: NoLibZone

damn!

Now I regret my above post on cars.

It will be a campaign offer to buy votes by Obama soon.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 3:07:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: NoLibZone

This is also going to happen (probably already happening) with broadband internet too


5 posted on 08/05/2011 3:08:43 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Anj-ela

“something like this” is not the new Universal Service Fund.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 3:08:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: NoLibZone

I wonder how many subsidized phones are used by flash mobs?


7 posted on 08/05/2011 3:09:31 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NoLibZone

They also have the right to sing the blues and the right to cable TV.


8 posted on 08/05/2011 3:12:30 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: NoLibZone

This has been going on for a while.

Yes, we are paying to provide free phones and 250 minutes per month to “low income” people who cannot produce a photo ID or show their income.

Watch for the AT&T - TMobile merger to be approved providing they expand this program or something like it. It is the way of our DOJ.


9 posted on 08/05/2011 3:13:52 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: NoLibZone

I want a pony.


10 posted on 08/05/2011 3:16:07 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: NoLibZone
Question: "Are you paying to provide free cell service to people with low incomes? [PA free phone & 250 min.]"

Response: Probably.

Comment: We even provide free treatment for their syphilis, gonorrhea, drug addiction, abortions and help provide without cost every other vice known to man free of charge.

11 posted on 08/05/2011 3:18:31 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Not only are we paying for the free phones and usage, we are paying for advertising to inform these looters on how to get their free phone. I would like to see a law that anyone using a cell phone in the commission of a felony, be denied a cell phone account until they are off probation.


12 posted on 08/05/2011 3:19:43 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It seems to me that these phones are probably pre-paids, which makes them largely untraceable.


13 posted on 08/05/2011 3:20:04 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Drango

There’s anecdotal evidence that a number of “poor” people live in some nice places (Section 8 rentals are not just in the ghetto), wear nice clothes, drive some nice vehicles like Lincoln Navigators (with wheel spinner accessories), yet they are officially in poverty.


14 posted on 08/05/2011 3:20:04 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: NoLibZone

bump.


15 posted on 08/05/2011 3:22:10 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: NoLibZone

Is Federal Universal Service Fee and Federal Universal Service Fee-Long Distance the same as Federal Universal Fund?

They whack me $2.56 / month.


16 posted on 08/05/2011 3:22:26 PM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: NoLibZone

This was another one of Algore’s bright ideas and it has been around for a long time. Got a food stamp card? You get a cell phone. The major problem is, non-freeloaders have to pay the bill for the freeloaders.


17 posted on 08/05/2011 3:22:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: NoLibZone
SAFELINK
18 posted on 08/05/2011 3:25:37 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: NoLibZone

The poor are living better than the middle class that are working their ass off and still falling behind.


19 posted on 08/05/2011 3:25:50 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Anj-ela

well thats even worse. we are paying for their phones and they are still getting billed. So what he hell is the government doing with all our money anyway?


20 posted on 08/05/2011 3:30:15 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: NoLibZone

21 posted on 08/05/2011 3:32:03 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Anj-ela

Then your fiend got conned into something else.

This is true, I know it for a fact as I know of at least two neighbors here that have them.

One on SSI and the other a welfare recipient.


22 posted on 08/05/2011 3:32:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Logical me

We were involved in feeding the homeless in a small SoCal city. As we were dishing out the food, after spending hours preparing it, we noticed that most of the people were chatting on their cell phones. Their phones were better than ours were. After a couple of months, we stopped participating.


23 posted on 08/05/2011 3:35:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: NoLibZone

Here is a copy of my taxes and “surcharges”, each listed separately..

Sprint Surcharges $11.25
Show DetailsHide Details And Explanation of Charges
Sprint Surcharges are rates we choose to collect from you to help defray costs imposed on us. Surcharges are not taxes on you or amounts we are required to collect from you by law. Surcharges other charges incurred to recover costs associated with governmental programs, and certain taxes imposed upon Sprint. The amounts, and the components used to calculate Surcharge amounts, are subject to change.
Federal-Univ Serv Assess Non-LD $2.88
New York State-Gross Receipts Recovery $0.38
New York State-Telecomm Excise Recovery $2.98
Suffolk County-MCTD Excise Surcharge $0.71
Suffolk County-MCTD Gross Receipts Fee $0.13
Administrative Charge $2.97
Regulatory Charge $1.20


$11.25

Government Fees & Taxes $13.39
Show DetailsHide Details And Explanation of Charges
Taxes and fees Sprint is required to collect from customers on behalf of the government.
New York State-911 Tax $3.60
New York State-Sales Tax $4.12
Suffolk County-911 Tax $0.90
Suffolk County-Sales Tax $4.77


$13.39

An additional $24.64 each month just to have the damn thing!


24 posted on 08/05/2011 3:41:23 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: NoLibZone
As part of its purchase of the NBC the FCC also required Comcast to provide Internet service for under $10/month and discounted computers to low income families. Who do you think is footing the bill. It isn't Comcast.

http://bejohngalt.com/2011/08/we-are-paying-far-more-than-we-realize/

25 posted on 08/05/2011 3:43:14 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Logical me

“The poor are living better than the middle class that are working their ass off and still falling behind.”

Well I don’t know about better...but they are generally living just as well. I get NOTHING for free. Zero handouts.

P.S. (O.T.) I’m kinda new here - how do I reply with a quote from a previous post and have the previous post in italics like everybody else does? Thanks, DJ)


26 posted on 08/05/2011 3:49:15 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Rent is a right
Cell phones are a right
Health care is a right
Cable tv is a right
Internet is a right (high speed please)
Throw in a car and gasoline


27 posted on 08/05/2011 3:52:30 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: NoLibZone

Well, how else are they gonna know when to flashmob the state fair?


28 posted on 08/05/2011 3:53:30 PM PDT by EricT. (Is a country that would re-elect Barrack Hussein Obama really worth saving?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think that is the main purpose of these subsidized phones - Obama Mobs.


29 posted on 08/05/2011 3:54:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NoLibZone
This was passed by algore, back when he and Perry were best buds.
30 posted on 08/05/2011 3:56:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: NoLibZone

Passed by algore!!!


34 posted on 08/05/2011 4:05:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: GeronL
Check this out
35 posted on 08/05/2011 4:31:12 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: NoLibZone
Now I regret my above post on cars.

Don't worry, I posted something very similar on the Chevy volt thread the other day.

36 posted on 08/05/2011 4:33:03 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Drango
I want a pony.

I want a unicorn.

And some pie.

I am so sick of paying for these non-productive, selfish thugs.

37 posted on 08/05/2011 4:35:26 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: RS_Rider
I would like to see a law that anyone using a cell phone in the commission of a felony, be denied a cell phone account until they are off probation.

Think of their cell phones as personal tracking devices that they are required by law to carry at all times. Not only is their cell location silently and remotely recorded, newer phones report precise coordinates. With slight software modification the phones can take motion activated photos and record offline conversations and upload them periodically for image and speech recognition analysis, not to mention the blabber mouths divulge everything about themselves when they're on the phone.

As work automation increases, the left side of the bell curve is increasingly becoming unemployable. There is little they can do that a robot won't do faster, cheaper, better. What we're witnessing is the permanent transformation of huge numbers of people into human zoo animals. That's the future. Tracking devices will be used for determining which zoo animals are free range and which are kept in cages.

38 posted on 08/05/2011 4:39:18 PM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Same thing here in Hollywood. Our parish kept “begging” in their sermons to make the parishioners give more in our weekly service/donation but when I observed multiple times who these “beggars” are...they dressed better than I did with brand new Nikes, Hollister shirts etc. heck. some of them were even talking on their Iphones (yes, I am 100% sure of it...I was THIS close)

It was sickening. There’s a reason why I have NEVER increased my parish donation for the past 5 years because my lib church just does not have any idea on how to budget.


39 posted on 08/05/2011 4:46:43 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Anj-ela
... friend on disability who thought to subscribe to something like this, and ended up at the end of the month with a 50 dollar bill ...

It's free IF a person sticks to the 250 minutes. If your friend was downloading games, apps, music and talking more than 250 minutes, she would have to pay for the extras.

There are people who REALLY are disabled - and a cell phone is a blessing for them. Medical emergencies do happen. But, for the gangbangers, drug addicts, almost anyone with HIV (not sick), alcoholics etc, kids with bad tempers etc, it's an outrage.

Conservatives aren't heartless - we just don't want to be played for fools - like dems.

40 posted on 08/05/2011 4:52:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (This “wussification” of America is an on-going phenomenon.- freeper rokkitapps)
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To: NoGrayZone

I pay $50 for a phone number and unlimited calls, texts and internet through NET10. I don’t feel guilty at all.


41 posted on 08/05/2011 4:59:31 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: DJlaysitup

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42 posted on 08/05/2011 6:15:33 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: NoLibZone

Been there..Done that in Ma. Deval Patrick was providing used cars to people on welfare in the western half of the state. The worst thing was they used mechanics in NH to fix the cars before giving them away. Howie Carr was a big part of stopping this crap.


43 posted on 08/05/2011 6:16:52 PM PDT by lonerepubinma
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To: NoLibZone

Death by a thousand cuts.


44 posted on 08/05/2011 6:37:28 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: DJlaysitup
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45 posted on 08/05/2011 9:31:39 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (www.atheoryofwar.com - Why did Liberals evolve within our species?)
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To: Drango

But would you leave a “non-pony” country for a “pony” country? Thanks Seinfeld.


46 posted on 08/06/2011 6:05:24 AM PDT by tal hajus (ever the cynic)
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