Skip to comments.Cleveland Mayor Vetoes Flash Mob Crackdown
Posted on 08/05/2011 7:25:53 PM PDT by FourPeas
CLEVELAND -- Cleveland's mayor has vetoed a measure that would have made it a crime to use social media to organize a flash mob.
City council members who introduced the measure say teens have used Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites to pull together flash mobs that are really only large gatherings of trouble makers, instead of the usual large crowds breaking into dance.
[Mayor Frank] Jackson told council members that the ordinance passed by them was a concern because it could interfere with the rights of the city's law-abiding citizens.
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How do such stupid people get elected into positions of authority?
I do wonder why so many Gringos think that they can just go to an inner city and be left alone...even in a tourist area.
It should be clear from articles like this one that the leaders of these cities could CARE LESS about the safety of us Gringos...so why are some of us STUPID enough to keep going there?
The citizens of Cleveland who elected him will get what they deserve at the hands of this idiot.
So if someone had a gun and fired at those people who were trying to pull them out of car would be classified by this mayor as - what - exactly???
Why should such a law be necessary? Existing laws on aggravated gang activity, or disturbing the peace could be interpreted to penalize this activity, and should be.
Thank you ...we already have laws for that kind of ‘organizing activity’ in the whole STATE...just enforce the law.
I happen to think the VETO was correct in this case.
I don’t bother going to Philly anymore. Parking prices are horrendous, especially if the valet ransacks your car. There are plenty of places in the ‘burbs. If you want to go out and eat a good meal, or just hang out, there is a plethora of restaurants in King of Prussia, and Valley Forge Park to run, bicycle, or enjoy a simple picnic.
I guess this brings out the “libertarian” in me. I like to see an authority disabuse himself of one more misguided ordinance meant to keep us all in line. In Cleveland no less. There is hope.
Flash mobbers all vote democrat.
Yeah, but watch what the Mayor and LEOs do next about this, if anything, under existing law.
Sooner or later that is going to happen.
The need for laws that favor “Holder’s people”.
Also you carry a can of wasp spray. Two cans for a larger crowd. Still I bet you’d be the one arrested for assault since you’re white and they’re black. It’d be a hate crime.
That would show them!
I agree with you. The problem is that we have a bunch of leftist loons in positions of authority in our big cities. They will NOT enforce the existing laws on the books against the animalistic behavior of these loser, young degenerates--most of whom happen to be Democrats (read: blacks). What is the answer to stopping these wild animals? I shudder to think...
“A sum of money is a leading character in this tale about people, just as a sum of honey might properly be a leading character in a tale about bees.
This guy related to Bonehead??
“How do such stupid people get elected into positions of authority?”
Trying to figure THAT out since Nov. 2008;)
More good news from the crime blackhole/cesspool that is known as Cleveland.
No matter how you try to slice it, to attempt to ban all flash mobs, even non-violent ones, would be a violation of the 1st Amendment’s guarantee of the right to peaceably assemble.
It drives my blood pressure up to argue with members of the “silent majority” who proudly state they are “above politics” .
These same people avoid jury duty, because only idiots can't get out of it, in their twisted opinion.
These same people wonder why we have idiots in DC, Obama as POTUS, and no working system of justice.
But hey...they get to brag about how smart they were to get out of jury duty, and why nothing our government does is in any way ever their own fault.
Talk about an ignorant victim mentality!
I used to shop in downtown Cleveland, ostensibly to help the economy ... spend locally and all that. However, since Obo got into office, I wouldn’t go downtown if my very life depended on it. Now, anything white is the enemy. After all a black president is in charge and therefore blacks are in charge of all they survey.
These idiots don’t realize that he is limit in his reign as President. The next president might be white or a black with a sense of responsibility for the American people as a whole.
An invitation to flash-mobbers to take to the streets? Sheesh!
Cleveland, Milwaukee, LA, Philly etc. etc. it is clear if your white stay out. You don’t have any friends there,not the police, not the mayor, not the city council, the Justice Department or the Presidency, you are not their people....you are the problem
oops tag line fail let’s try again
Real-life nephew of his Uncle Sam?
“Cleveland, Milwaukee, LA, Philly etc. etc. it is clear if your white stay out. You dont have any friends there,not the police, not the mayor, not the city council, the Justice Department or the Presidency, you are not their people....you are the problem”
Exactly. They want the white money (you know, go there for the ‘cosmopolitan atmosphere’ and all that jazz) yet they’re not willing to lift a finger to make it even somewhat safe.
Well, sorry, but if someone insists on having their show in a ‘downtown’ theater, they can kiss my beutress (as they say at the UN), I AIN’T going there.
Just rename Cleveland “Holderville” and be done with it.
They could likely find most of those trouble makers by using a list of people receiving "free" phones.
After this, If you stay in or visit Cleveland, you deserve what you get.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
remember the mobs went to the King of Prussia mall and caused havoc....
To be quite frank, I do. We go to the Indians games, concerts and restaurants. We also frequent the many museums in Cleveland. I honestly don’t see many of the majority “black” that you are referring too. I know they are around, but I don’t feel unsafe.
Recently, I have felt slightly uneasy at large gatherings (for example. football stadium concerts) and have adjusted our entertainment accordingly.
Of course, I'm not hanging around Prospect Ave. at 2 AM. Just make sure you practice situational awareness in any urban area. I'll be damned if I let the fear of some random punk keep me from doing what I want to do and going where I want to go.
Use common sense and stay safe everybody.
Vaguely. I have never had a problem there, but then again, I rarely go there. I know that crime can erupt anywhere, but KOP is relatively safe. It's the people from Philly or Norristown shoplifting and being disorderly.
I’m amazed by the majority of the replies.
First, this is a “feel good” law that does nothing but clutter the books on what’s legal and what’s illegal. *If* the thugs who organize a violent flashmob decide they care about this sort of law (and why would they care about something so ticky-tack if they’re willing to assault people?), they’ll simply use dubious language to call for the mob.
Second, it’s a free speech issue. We already have laws on the books to make illegal incitement to riot. *If* the current statues are insufficient to cover electronic means, modify them, don’t create a specific law for social media. This is the sort of law that turns up later in the same category as the Michigan law that made it illegal to tether an allegator to a fire hydrant.
Third, it’s a freedom of assembly issue. As above, there are already laws on the books to make assault, rioting, etc. illegal. Enforce the laws already on the books.
Fourth, the city council is engaging in more government for the sake of more government. The proposed law won’t solve any problems, or make anything illegal that isn’t already. All it does is grow government, something conservatives are supposed to deplore.
Fifth, the root of violent flashmobs isn’t in the law. It’s morality (or, more precisely, the lack thereof). This problem won’t be solved by writing more laws. Yes, laws need to be enforced and the public protected, but the city council should be about the task of removing road blocks to those organizations that teach/encourage/value morality that teaches young people that such behavior is unacceptable.
Sixth, city council members who can’t figure out the above are a disgrace to their city. Despite being a Democrat, it appears the mayor actually may understand some of the above. His ability to at least appear to “get it” should be encouraged.
Ever been to the Flat Iron Cafe before a game and taken the bus over to the game. The pierogies are amazing.