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Dozens Killed as NATO Helicopter Shot Down in Afghanistan
New York Times ^ | 6 August 2011 | By RAY RIVERA and ALISSA J. RUBIN

Posted on 08/06/2011 2:21:16 AM PDT by BlackVeil

KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents shot down a NATO Chinook helicopter during an overnight operation in eastern Afghanistan, killing 37 people on board, a military official said on Saturday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 08/06/2011 2:21:24 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Prayers for the loved ones


2 posted on 08/06/2011 2:27:03 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: BlackVeil

Oh no. Prayers sent for families and loved ones.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 2:37:23 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: BlackVeil
Dear God.

Thirty seven.

4 posted on 08/06/2011 2:37:48 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: BlackVeil

Good men wasted while the politicans play games.


5 posted on 08/06/2011 2:42:45 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: BlackVeil
...and that son of a bitch obama is off on holiday again.

Not only does he squander the treasury, he spends the lives of our soldiers without a thought.

6 posted on 08/06/2011 2:49:05 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

That was my thought - exactly.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 2:55:09 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Horrendous loss. My prayers for those lost and their loved ones.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 3:10:00 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: BlackVeil

I am tired of our crews being called NATO

They are UNITED STATES FORCES !

Give them that . They deserve it .

What Units?


9 posted on 08/06/2011 3:13:43 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

A US helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan has killed 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers, President Hamid Karzai’s office says.

BBC


10 posted on 08/06/2011 3:15:19 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Huge Huge loss .....time for pay back

ID the taliban outfit involved and bomb them off the face of the earth

No mercy


11 posted on 08/06/2011 3:16:30 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Cardhu

Thanks for the update and extra information.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 3:20:33 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Fervent prayers for their families. Sickening news.


13 posted on 08/06/2011 3:25:42 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I am tired of our crews being called NATO
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Granted...
Guess they figure we are like the sheeple, read the headline and move along.
By not saying they are US troops they are taking another shot at us ... Watch them try to sneak the ‘real facts’ out sometime between 8PM Sat and 4AM Mon - if they even bother to do that.

Remember the ‘pre BO’ days when the casualties were broadcast every evening, with pix when available, of OUR KIA’s?

Once BO assumed the pResidency, the daily ‘score card’ was discontinued.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I did like the fact that our KIA’s were being recognized, but the purpose of the Media was to embarrass Bush, so we ought to raise as much hell about the NOT reporting as we did the reporting.

Hate to say it, but if we don’t play by/with ‘their’ rules, we will get buried again.


14 posted on 08/06/2011 3:27:11 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) We have got to get serious about 'readjusting' the present House and Senate.)
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To: BlackVeil

I’d like to find out what nation gave these cavemen the clearly uber-sophisticated surface to air missile that suddenly was able to take out one of our Chinooks.

Those birds have some fairly sophisticated countermeasures, so the Taliban either needed a sophisticated weapon, or they needed a level of infiltration into our Special Operations command that would let them know exactly where this Chinook was getting ready to land so they could hit it with an RPG as it was coming down and unable to peel away. That second option is inconceivable, so I’m assuming some nation sold the Talibs some nice hardware.


15 posted on 08/06/2011 3:36:48 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: All

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/nato-helicopter-crashes-in-afghanistan/story-e6frf7lf-1226109880442

Last Updated: August 06, 2011

“38 dead as NATO helicopter crashes in Afghanistan”

From correspondents From: AFP August 06, 2011 8:07PM

SNIPPET: “UPDATE 8pm: A total of 31 members of the US special forces have died in a helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan along with seven Afghans, a statement from Afghan President Hamid Karzai’s office said.”


16 posted on 08/06/2011 3:37:01 AM PDT by Cindy
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NOTE The following text is a quote:

www.isaf.nato.int/article/isaf-releases/helicopter-crashes-in-eastern-afghanistan-recovery-underway.html

Helicopter Crashes in Eastern Afghanistan; Recovery Underway
ISAF Joint Command - Afghanistan
2011-08-S-014
For Immediate Release

KABUL, Afghanistan (Aug. 6, 2011) – An International Security Assistance Force helicopter crashed in eastern Afghanistan today, and recovery operations are underway.

ISAF is still in the process of assessing the circumstances to determine the facts of the incident, reporting indicates there was enemy activity in the area.

Additional details will be released as appropriate.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 3:38:50 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Kakaze

happy birthday obama, you SOB.


18 posted on 08/06/2011 3:40:48 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: BlackVeil

prayers


19 posted on 08/06/2011 3:41:22 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: BlackVeil
Afghan military officials put the death toll at 38, including 31 Americans and seven Afghan commandos.

31 God fearing, young American soldiers. What a shame. God bless them and their families.

Monday morning, there won't be one word about this in the msm. Not one word.

20 posted on 08/06/2011 4:00:42 AM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: BlackVeil

why hasn’t that mountain range been turned into a gravel road by now?


21 posted on 08/06/2011 4:10:28 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: risen_feenix

perhaos someone felt we needed a good pretext to speed up or accelerate our withdrawals, but it would never be accepted if Obama called for it outright. after this, many more may be receptive to such a call. a reverse tonkin gulf, if you will.

is that too conpspiratorial? nothing would surprise me anymore


22 posted on 08/06/2011 4:11:51 AM PDT by jeltz25
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To: risen_feenix

China.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 4:30:42 AM PDT by Shady (Capitalism works for men who do. Socialism works for men who don’t The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Cindy

There seems to be some ambiguity on if this was due to enemy action or a crash due to other reason. I don’t know if the confusion is deliberate or just the fog of war.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 4:34:11 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks BlackVeil.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 4:54:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jeltz25

Um... yeah it is.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 5:01:05 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: fortheDeclaration
Good men wasted while the politicians play games.

Did 0bama's Rules of Engagement play a part in this loss of American lives?

If they did, we will never know.

27 posted on 08/06/2011 5:03:15 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: BlackVeil

Heard it was mostly SEALs and SF. Sickening. Thats a huge blow if true.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 5:09:32 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: BlackVeil

Right on the heels of the downgrade.

Hey, at least we know the “Commander-in-Chief” will not allow these unimportant bits of news that bother the “bitter clingers” to interfere with his hip-hop party at the White House. He’ll just jump around dancing barefoot in the Rose Garden.

I wonder which Obammie the Commie enjoys more, destroying America or symbolically crapping all over the White House as Slick Willy did.


29 posted on 08/06/2011 5:14:16 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BlackVeil

The media fought hard for the ability to photograph the coffins at Dover Air Force Base. Will they publish this scene of these unfortunate men or will they be ignored for the sake of Obama?

God bless the brave fighting to keep us safe.


30 posted on 08/06/2011 5:14:52 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: xrmusn

The state-run media, by not referring to them as US military, is also seeking to divert attention to that fact, to cover Obammie the Commie’s bony ass.

Thanks for reminding everyone how the state-run media issued a DAILY BODY COUNT on the evening news running up to the 2008 election and then DISCONTINUED THAT PRACTICE EVEN THOUGH THE BODY COUNT INCREASED UNDER OBAMMIE THE COMMIE.

Traitors all, and deserving a traitor’s fate.


31 posted on 08/06/2011 5:16:51 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BlackVeil

Just end this. If your not going to fight to win, just end it and bring all our men home.


32 posted on 08/06/2011 5:17:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: BlackVeil

This is awful. I would like to know why this has been announced by the Afghan Prea and not ours?


33 posted on 08/06/2011 5:21:33 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: BlackVeil
31 Special Forces, our bravest and finest

Heroes all, men such as those in the WH and Congress will never equal in character and bravery

May Congress enjoy is vacation, may obama enjoy his barbeques, may Reid enjoy his pomegranates, may Pelosi choke on her spittle ranting about hating republican values Here's a photo op for Barky, one the liberals in the MEdia fought for - 31 coffins coming back to Dover, all at once

34 posted on 08/06/2011 5:22:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Agreed.


35 posted on 08/06/2011 5:24:02 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: risen_feenix

What nation gave them the missiles? I am betting the “rebels” in Libya that WE are supporting shipped them to them to use on our troops.


36 posted on 08/06/2011 5:24:17 AM PDT by macquire
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To: risen_feenix

Iran, Russia, China, black market US or EU weapons brokered through Paki intelligence ...

Take your pick


37 posted on 08/06/2011 5:24:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: BlackVeil

Prayers for the families and friends. We honor the warriors.


38 posted on 08/06/2011 5:37:05 AM PDT by Pat4ever (NO MORE!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

We should have been doing that from Day 1.


39 posted on 08/06/2011 5:39:39 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: PghBaldy
I would like to know why this has been announced by the Afghan Prea and not ours?

A fair question. I guess that Karzai is on the job, and Obama is on holiday.

40 posted on 08/06/2011 5:40:38 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
CentComm doesn't seem to have much more info yet. I imagine they are still cleaning up and working notifications.

0 fiddles while soldiers die needlessly.

Best wishes to the families.

41 posted on 08/06/2011 5:45:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: LeoWindhorse

Arc Light.


42 posted on 08/06/2011 5:48:42 AM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Just end this. If your not going to fight to win, just end it and bring all our men home.

My feelings exactly. Why are we wasting precious American blood on a bunch of savages (both inside and outside the Afghan government) who don't want us there? We can't stay forever, and whenever we do pull out, they'll just go back to an islamist government anyway. All we're doing right now is delaying the inevitable.

F 'em.




43 posted on 08/06/2011 5:50:22 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: risen_feenix
Sadly a lucky placement with ah heavy machine gun can bring any helo down. Small arms ground fire is a problem in insertions. Remember Helos aren't even suppose to fly. One with two rotors is twice as bad. I live close to a base with Chinooks stationed at it. They are big and slow. One from this unit was shot down a few years ago with the loss of the crew. Hit us hard here, I would previously see them at the local eatery on a regular basis.
44 posted on 08/06/2011 5:56:28 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: BlackVeil
I feel sick. Waiting to hear from dear family friend who's son is SF over there.
45 posted on 08/06/2011 5:58:27 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I was watching the showtime series (reruns ) of the Borgia’s last night. A cardinal was asking the king of France to move militarily on Italy, especially Rome.

The French King talked about war saying “ War is ugly, are you sure you want me to do that? War is about power against power, not some knights riding on pretty horses jousting and then going home. Its about one side destroying the other side, bringing them to destruction and either completly wiping them out or gaining total power over them.”

Since when did we start going to “war” with ROE? That is a lost cause. And especially with these mideval Muslims...they only understand power..

Let our military fight with Street Rules and fight a “WAR” and we will win! Dresden and Hiroshima were leveled. No ROE’s then.
( er, isn’t that what war is about? Winning? )


46 posted on 08/06/2011 5:58:42 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: armymarinemom

Get them all the hell out of that country. You cannot drag it into this century. Leave. The Russians paid a terrible price. It is not worth one more American.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 6:02:28 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: BlackVeil

-O,bummer can’t be wakened from his Hip Hop barbecue
Hangover- they will mention it later-

As a further note:

1. O’bummer is sad that he can’t do a photo op with these
soldiers.

2. but he is happy that he lost another bunch of conservative voters-

( I know -flame me for being non PC)


48 posted on 08/06/2011 6:02:54 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Cardhu

“President Hamid Karzai’s office says.”

Our troops demise is broken to the American people by the corrupt president of Afghanistan.


49 posted on 08/06/2011 6:03:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: LeoWindhorse

“Huge Huge loss .....time for pay back”

Not in husseins realm. He wouldn’t want to offend the islamopigs. He HATES the US and the forces that should be here protecting our borders.


50 posted on 08/06/2011 6:06:58 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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