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Perry says his rally is about prayers, not politics (will pray for God's wisdom to pour over Obama)
Los Angeles Times ^ | Paul West,

Posted on 08/06/2011 4:31:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Reporting from Houston— Beneath the dome of an air-conditioned football stadium and a cloud of controversy, Texas Gov. Rick Perry will lead thousands of Christian fundamentalists in seven hours of prayer and fasting Saturday on behalf of a "nation in crisis."

"This isn't about me," Perry said. "It's about Jesus."

[snip]

Late last month, a federal judge in Houston rejected a lawsuit by an atheist group which had sought to prevent Perry from taking part, claiming it violated the separation of church and state. Civil liberties organizations are protesting both the exclusionary nature of the Christians-only program and the sponsors it describes as "intolerant religious extremists."

Perry plans to fast throughout the daylong event; while his exact role has been kept somewhat secret, he is expected to speak. Turnout for the rally also remains in question, though tens of thousands are likely to attend.

"It may just be me and a couple ushers in Reliant Stadium," Perry said the other day. "But that's OK. We're going to pray for the president of the United States, to have God's wisdom poured out over him, to have his eyes opened."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: christianity; faith; forgiveness; prayer
Plan A: ...We're going to pray for the president of the United States, to have God's wisdom poured out over him, to have his eyes opened." -- Governor Rick Perry

Plan B: 2012 -- President Rick Perry.

1 posted on 08/06/2011 4:31:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We should all pray for this. The president needs God’s wisdom. I am not being sarcastic either.


2 posted on 08/06/2011 4:42:47 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The LA Times continues to peddle the nonsense that a Christian oriented program is "exclusionary".

This is the usual propaganda of the Leftwingtard believers in "word magic". They actually fear that hearing the expression "In Jesus Name" is going to turn them into something else.

Frankly, we've got to get a handle on this business where people who believe in witchcraft are considered to be fair judges of Christian behavior and belief.

Which is, of course, slightly off the point here but Rick Perry's religious beliefs aren't any of my business, nor that of anyone else really. First Amendment rights don't end just because you get elected to public office.

3 posted on 08/06/2011 4:43:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: All
An interesting LA Times discussion thread regarding prayer, politics and Perry
4 posted on 08/06/2011 4:43:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ruesrose
We should all pray for this. The president needs God’s wisdom. I am not being sarcastic either.

It's as plain as the nose on our face.

5 posted on 08/06/2011 4:45:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: muawiyah
The LA Times continues to peddle the nonsense that a Christian oriented program is "exclusionary".

It's all they got.

6 posted on 08/06/2011 4:46:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ruesrose

I’m not sure Obama believes in God’s existence. He pretends to when it’s politically expedient. I join Governor Perry and hope God opens this president’s eyes.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 5:07:59 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I never heard of a “Christians only” evangelical conference

usually it’s the more, the merrier! Come on in and let the Spirit fill you!


8 posted on 08/06/2011 5:08:58 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: silverleaf

Exactly!


9 posted on 08/06/2011 5:14:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: McLynnan

I hope he opens his eyes just after his defeat.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 5:19:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Absolutely! It wouldn’t hurt to pray that God’s wisdom pours over the electorate who gave us this disaster of a president.


11 posted on 08/06/2011 5:23:30 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope you are ok when you find out there is no plan B.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 5:24:47 AM PDT by ngat
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To: silverleaf

You hit the nail on the head. Personally, in Mexico I had a visiting pastor staying at my house and Governor Perry called, asking to speak to my guest pastor, ‘reminding him not to forget a prayer breakfast they had planned’. I don’t see anything anti American about what they have planned to do today. I wish the American Elite Media would go get a job driving trucks taking chickens from Joplin, dropping them off in Laredo. Texas.


13 posted on 08/06/2011 5:44:22 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry says his rally is about prayers, not politics

In or Out, Rick?...cut the baloney and go to work.

14 posted on 08/06/2011 5:51:06 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: GoldenPup

‘Pandering to Christians’ bump! Get those votes!


15 posted on 08/06/2011 5:53:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ruesrose

The people of this Nation need to repent...


16 posted on 08/06/2011 5:55:05 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: silverleaf

“I never heard of a “Christians only” evangelical conference”

So true. To limit attendance to Christians negates the definiation of “evangelical”. There’s no need to evangelise current Christians; non-Christians are the audience of evangelism.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 5:59:53 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good grief. Who do these idiots think they are telling the Gov. that he can not pray for the State and the country with others when he wants to.

Do these self hating atheists tell Muslims when they can and can not pray against the State and country? No. That would be biggoted.


18 posted on 08/06/2011 6:01:52 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: rovenstinez; ngat; McLynnan; TexasFreeper2009; silverleaf; muawiyah; ruesrose
I've noticed from all the ravings about this prayer event today in Houston, the idea of "dominionism" is being linked (by foreign and domestic writers) to Christians, conservatives, Tea Party politics and Gov. Rick Perry. I haven't "googled" these terms together, but it might be informative.

Aug 5, 2011: God is a Weapon --- “In Washington today and for the past 30 plus years, the Christian Right has marched to the sounds of thumping Bibles, fighting to cast America back into the Dark Ages of thought and action. They time and time again, claim they represent Christian morality and are striving for the restoration of our Country to a Christian Nation but they have, by their actions against "the least of them", revealed themselves as the very Pharisees and Sadducees Jesus was said to have warned his disciples against as acting within the Church for their own means rather that those of the people.

[snip ---quite a lot of hate in this rant]

These people; these lost souls infected with the disease of Biblical misinterpretation, know no bounds to their pursuit to force us back into the dark ages. To them, God is a weapon; one which they use daily against all of us through media hypnosis and false political rhetoric.

Unless We the People come to realize the very real danger of the insanity of Dominionism growing like a virus within our Government, is slowly infecting our very reason, the War in the Middle East will be the least of our worries.” – Steven Forrest is a Project Architect living in St. Petersburg, Florida. Currently, he is working to implement Green Building initiatives in several communities across Florida. Given the current situation in America and the continued stratification of society, he has taken to writing in an effort to contribute a bit of reason in a unreasoned news environment.

July 10, 2011 -- Al Arabiya News: Fundamentalists challenge wall between church and state …….”The political right and faith-based organizations have been working in coalitions for years. The embrace of Dominionists and the growth of the fringe Tea Party wing of the Republican party are but the latest wrinkles.

Aug 5, 2011: Aljazeera: Let America be America again (OpEd slams Rick Perry's call for prayer "The Response"] “As I wrote last week, there are a number of troubling facets of the New Apostolic Reformation [NAR] that cry out for media attention. The NAR is the significant, yet relatively little-known religious movement embraced by many prominent endorsers of Texas Governor Rick Perry's upcoming prayer event, "The Response". It represents a major break with the Religious Right of the past: it's not about issues or even "values". It's about power, pure and simple. About taking over the world, a form of Christian dominionism, and as I described, they've even got a seven-point plan for doing so - the "Seven Mountains Mandate"……………..”

19 posted on 08/06/2011 6:06:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GoldenPup; who knows what evil?; MayflowerMadam; SaraJohnson

Bump!


20 posted on 08/06/2011 6:08:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ruesrose

“The president needs God’s wisdom. I am not being sarcastic either.”

Still, we need to be careful not to hitch our wagons to anyone who SAYS he/she is a Christian, e.g., Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Even the early Baptists in America preferred a president determined to uphold the Constitution over a religious president.

John Leland (1754-1841) led Baptists in Virginia in the struggle for religious freedom. He ardently opposed the idea that the United States was a Christian commonwealth and fervently championed separating church and state. He’s credited with the existence of the First Amendment, working with James Madison.

After the Constitution was adopted, Leland rejoiced that it would be possible for a “Pagan, Turk, Jew or Christian” to be eligible for any post or office in the government. (The Writings of John Leland, ed. L.F. Greene. New York: Arno Press, 1969, p. 191.

Even if the president isn’t a fundamental/evangelical Christian, he absolutely MUST assure that all citizens are free to practice their respective religions (or no religion at all) without persecution. At this point in time, Christians are persecuted consistently while Muslims and athiests are favored. That’s not constitutional.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 6:13:57 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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[snip] ......."The coverage does not mention that the Response — which is free — was never billed as a political event and has been endorsed by black, Hispanic and Asian-American clergy as well as by churches from as far away as Brooklyn, Los Angeles, New Orleans and even Switzerland. The media coverage also omits the fact that 1,000 churches nationwide plan to simulcast the seven-hour event.

“This will be a solemn occasion where people will gather to pray and repent, and seek God’s blessing and provision. We gather in a spirit of unity, in opposition to no group or perspective, and we will pray for the good of the country as a whole,” spokesman Eric Bearse tells Inside the Beltway." Source

22 posted on 08/06/2011 6:27:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Obama proves unreceptive, fire and brimstone would be an acceptable alternative.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 6:34:48 AM PDT by 60Gunner (Eternal vigilance or eternal rest. Make your choice.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
God's wisdom to pour over Obama

Niagara Falls into a thimble. I pray for Obama regularly, but I'm more optimistic on my prayers for the Obama voters. Obama's heart is hardened when it comes to good and God.

24 posted on 08/06/2011 6:34:57 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1; 60Gunner; All
The MSM is sadly reporting....."As it turns out, Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback will be at Rick Perry's Christian prayer rally today at Reliant Stadium in Houston."

The last couple of days, the MSM was making it sound like Brownback had backed out.

25 posted on 08/06/2011 6:38:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ruesrose

I’ve been praying Psalm 109:8 for him since his election.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 6:52:53 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: silverleaf

I believe the atheists are complaining because they can’t have any part in the service. They want the opportunity to try to ‘tone it down’ which would be like Elijah and the priests of Baal having a joint prayer meeting, not productive.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 6:56:04 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: who knows what evil?

NO...your wrong. I live in Texas and he has been doing this kind of thing the WHOLE TIME. He shows up to Christian events all the time, and is always asking us to pray. This is as American as apple pie, and very much like our founding fathers when they used the entire rotunda of the Capital Building daily for church services.
Maybe we should all consider The One who made the Heavens and the Earth in this dire situation we have with our beloved America.
Benjamin Franklin suggested the same thing as Perry when they were all writing the Declaration of Independence, and they all got on their knees and made supplication to the God of the Universe. He is asking God to intervene into our troubles and give us sound judgement to move this country how He (The Lord) would want us to go.
Sounds Revolutionary.....huh?


28 posted on 08/06/2011 6:59:28 AM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Photobucket What would George Washington do today?
29 posted on 08/06/2011 7:08:23 AM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From George Washington’s private prayer journal. “O most glorious God ... Direct my thoughts, words and work, wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb, and purge my heart by thy Holy Spirit.... Daily frame me more and more into the likeness of thy Son Jesus Christ.... Thou gavest thy Son to die for me, and hast given me assurance of salvation....”

“Cleanse my soul O Lord, I beseech thee, from whatever is offensive to thee, and hurtful to me, and give me what is convenient for me. Watch over me this night, and give me comfortable and sweet sleep to fit me for the service of the day following. Let my soul watch for the coming of the Lord Jesus; let my bed put me in mind of my grave, and my rising from there of my last resurrection; O heavenly Father, so frame this heart of mine, that I may ever delight to live according to thy will and command, in holiness and righteousness before thee all the days of my life.”

“Almighty God I yield Thee humble and hearty thanks that thou has preserved me from the danger of the night past, and brought me to the light of the day, and the comforts thereof, a day which is consecrated to Thine own service and for Thine own honor. Let my heart, therefore, Gracious God, be so affected with the glory and majesty of it, that I may not do mine own works, but wait on thee, and discharge those weighty duties thou requirest of me.”

“No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Wondrously strange, then, and much to be regretted indeed would it be, were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly; I cannot believe it will ever come to pass.” June 29, 1788


30 posted on 08/06/2011 7:14:08 AM PDT by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: astratt7

Nice.


31 posted on 08/06/2011 7:35:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: astratt7

I would be more impressed if Perry called upon those in attendance to repent...


32 posted on 08/06/2011 8:21:39 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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