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Romney signs marriage pledge
Politico ^ | 8/4/11 | Ben Smith

Posted on 08/06/2011 9:25:19 AM PDT by raccoonradio

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has joined Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Sen. Pennsylvania Rick Santorum in signing a pledge to oppose same-sex marriage on a number of specific fronts.

The three candidates signed the pledge advanced by the National Organization for Marriage, which has led national and state campaigns to limit marriage to a man and a woman. The signature of the front-runner, Romney, is a bit of a coup for the group, as he's been careful about committing to other pledges, including a broad promise to a socially conservative Iowa group that caused trouble for other candidates.

Romney, Bachmann and Santorum signed on to support a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage, to appoint federal judges who don't see a constitutional right to same-sex marriage and to back the Defense of Marriage Act.

They've also pledged to support a referendum on marriage in Washington and to establish a "presidential commission on religious liberty" aimed at protecting the rights of marriage foes to speak out.

The pledge is less meaningful for its direct consequences than for the fact that it fully commits the three candidates to the hottest front in the culture wars.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Massachusetts; US: Minnesota; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: flipflop; gaymarriage; massachusetts; minnesota; onemanonewoman; pennsylvania; pledge; rino; romney
Flip flop Flip flop Flip Flop?

Weather vane? "Any way the wind blows..."

1 posted on 08/06/2011 9:25:24 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
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2 posted on 08/06/2011 9:29:45 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: raccoonradio

Sometimes it is better never than late.

It can be the difference between having scant credibility and none whatsoever.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 9:30:27 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: raccoonradio

Trying to pick up some red states should he be the nominee?
btw it might be interesting in ‘12: unlike the likes of
JFK, Dukakis, and Kerry, Mitt might be a Massachusetts candidate (well, that and Utah & Mich.) who might LOSE
that state.

(Algore lost his home state too btw; and had he won it it could have put him over the top)


4 posted on 08/06/2011 9:30:31 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

But will he sign a pledge against plural marriage..THAT is the real question


5 posted on 08/06/2011 9:31:55 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

To do so he’d have to be saying Joseph Smith was a fake prophet. He won’t do that. Then again, it’s okay for him to lie about.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 9:36:39 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: EGPWS

today’s Bos Globe:
>>Romney has opposed gay marriage in his presidential campaigns both this year and in 2008. But he said in his 1994 Senate campaign against Democrat Edward Kennedy that he would be a greater advocate for gay rights than Kennedy.

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/08/romney-signs-new-pledge-banning-gay-marriage/zJRPrbdHIRmqYYEbgXsmwJ/index.html


7 posted on 08/06/2011 9:37:44 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: RnMomof7

Take my wives....please!

Didn’t Utah have to outlaw polygamy to join the union though?


8 posted on 08/06/2011 9:38:34 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Didn’t Utah have to outlaw polygamy to join the union though?

Yes, but Romney's Grandfather moved to Mexico so he could keep his multiple wives.
9 posted on 08/06/2011 9:47:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: raccoonradio
I don't believe the story.

Milt, himself, imposed gay marriage by personally overturning the Mass. Constitution.

"Experts: Credit Romney for homosexual marriage"
"What he (Governor Milt Romney) did was exercise illegal legislative authority'

"While former Massachusetts Gov. Milt Romney claims he did everything possible to throttle homosexual marriage in his state – his campaign now saying he took "every conceivable step within the law to defend traditional marriage" – several constitutional experts say that just isn't so.

"What Romney did [was] he exercised illegal legislative authority," Herb Titus said of the governor's actions after the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court released its opinion in the Goodridge case in 2003. "He was bound by what? There was no order. There wasn't even any order to the Department of Public Health to do anything."

Titus, a Harvard law graduate, was founding dean of Pat Robertson's Regent University Law School. He also worked with former Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, ...

Romney's aides have told WND that after four of the seven court members reinterpreted the definition of marriage, he believed he had no choice but to direct clerks and others to change state marriage forms and begin registering same-sex couples.

Some opponents contend that with those actions, Romney did no more or less than create the first homosexual marriages recognized in the nation. And Titus agrees."

"....But the court's decision conflicts with the constitutional philosophy of three co-equal branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial, Titus said. It also violates with the Massachusetts Constitution, which states: "The power of suspending the laws, or (suspending) the execution of the laws, ought never to be exercised but by the legislature..."

And it cannot even be derived from the opinion itself, asserts the pro-family activist group Mass Resistance, which says the decision did four things:

* First, it acknowledged that the current law does not permit same-sex marriage.

"The only reasonable explanation is that the Legislature did not intend that same-sex couples be licensed to marry. We conclude, as did the judge, that G.L. c. 207 may not be construed to permit same-sex couples to marry."

* Second, it said it is NOT striking down the marriage laws (among other things, the Massachusetts Constitution forbids a court to change laws)

"Here, no one argues that striking down the marriage laws is an appropriate form of relief."

* Third, it declared that not allowing same-sex marriages is a violation of the Massachusetts Constitution.

"We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution."

* And fourth, given that the court is not changing any laws, the SJC gave the Legislature 180 days to "take such action as it may deem appropriate."

"We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion."

After the Legislature did nothing during the 180 days, Romney then took action "on his own," the group said.

"Gov. Romney's legal counsel issued a directive to the Justices of the Peace that they must perform same-sex marriages when requested or 'face personal liability' or be fired," the group said."

10 posted on 08/06/2011 9:50:34 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: raccoonradio

I know... but give the man credit for eventually getting it right.


11 posted on 08/06/2011 9:51:02 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: SoConPubbie

Hmm...looking up George Romney (his dad) in Wikipedia:
>>Romney’s grandparents were polygamous Mormons who fled the United States with their children because of the federal government’s opposition to polygamy

Under “Mormons”:
>>Mormons are often associated with polygamy. Many early Mormons did in fact practice polygamy, though the practice was disavowed by the LDS Church in 1890 and phased out over the next 15 years. The vast majority of modern Mormons are monogamists.

The page shows some famous Mormons incl. Romney, Dingy Harry, Marie Osmond, Jon Huntsman, Glenn Beck


12 posted on 08/06/2011 9:53:40 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Someone explain to me why Gay marriage is a Federal issue?


13 posted on 08/06/2011 9:54:43 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: raccoonradio

“Romney signs marriage pledge”

What is the guys name that romney is marrying?

LLS


14 posted on 08/06/2011 9:55:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: raccoonradio

I believe nit rummie almost as much as I believe mac, the crybaby liar, daddy.


15 posted on 08/06/2011 9:56:18 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: raccoonradio
The signature of the front-runner, Romney, - POLITICO PABLUM PROPAGANDA.
16 posted on 08/06/2011 10:04:12 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TexasFreeper2009

He didn’t get it right, it was the direction of the wind.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 10:06:58 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: raccoonradio
Didn’t Utah have to outlaw polygamy to join the union though?

The LDS has never rescinded the doctrine of plural marriage it was OFFICIALLY tabled but it is still; there and observant Mormons must accept it if they hope to be gods.. because there is plural marriage in heaven... The temple sealing is still a valid marriage with or without the state in the eyes of the LDS

Now that gay marriage is seemly ok they will eventually try to bring back state sanctioned plural marriage as a religious freedom issue...

18 posted on 08/06/2011 10:13:56 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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ok.. so you would prefer for him to come out in favor or gay marriage?

I don’t get it, if he doesn’t do what you want you hate him, and if he does what you want you still hate him. Is there anything he can do politically that you would approve of?

When someone, even a former enemy comes over to my way of thinking I welcome them with open arms.


19 posted on 08/06/2011 10:14:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: raccoonradio

Lick index finger.....raise in the air....see which way the wind is blowing....take a stand.

Romney is a whores whore : )


20 posted on 08/06/2011 10:15:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: raccoonradio

Nah, it is related to this news http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/08/05/watch-dog-groups-call-investigation-1-million-donation-pro-romney-pac


21 posted on 08/06/2011 10:23:42 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: raccoonradio

Many may be deceived by a myth, and especially Myth Romney.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:16 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: raccoonradio

He’s desperate.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 10:56:45 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: raccoonradio
Romney just wasted his own ink by signing this pledge...it won't get him any more votes.

Who are the idiots that run his campaign?

24 posted on 08/06/2011 12:06:56 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
ok.. so you would prefer for him to come out in favor or gay marriage?
I would prefer he simply go away. The guy who lost to McCain who then lost to 0bama is a poor canidate. Well maybe not for the 'rats.
I don’t get it, if he doesn’t do what you want you hate him, and if he does what you want you still hate him. Is there anything he can do politically that you would approve of?
You don't get it because you expect that this time (is it a "flip" or a "flop"?) he'll settle on a position and stick to it. The best predictor of future behavior says he'll just flip (or flop) next time it fits his agenda.

So, yes, I would approve if he went away.
When someone, even a former enemy comes over to my way of thinking I welcome them with open arms.
Hug a snake; the snake is more likely to remain what it is.

You are better off with an enemy that stays your enemy than with a "friend" that will turn on you at the drop of a popularity poll...

HTH, HAND,
Peet
25 posted on 08/06/2011 2:36:04 PM PDT by Peet (Cogito ergo dubito.)
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To: Peet

well.. you make some good and valid points. But I think I would still give him credit for eventually doing the right thing.

btw, I am not a Romney supporter, I am Perry all the way.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 3:30:37 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks raccoonradio.
...Romney has joined Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and former Sen. Pennsylvania Rick Santorum in signing a pledge to oppose same-sex marriage... the pledge advanced by the National Organization for Marriage...

27 posted on 08/15/2011 2:04:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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