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Helicopter Crash in Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members of SEAL Team 6
FOXNEWS.COM ^ | 8/6/2011 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/06/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by spiderfern

WASHINGTON -- The Associated Press has learned that more than 20 Navy SEALs from the unit that killed Osama bin Laden were among those lost in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/06/afghan-president-31-americans-killed-in-helicopter-crash/#ixzz1UGZcWiEh

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RIP to the Brave SEALS.



This "coincidence" stinks.

151 posted on 08/06/2011 10:39:50 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Memphis Moe
Time for real Shock and Awe in Afghanistan. No quarter!

Obama, get the job done!

To what purpose? There is no "good" side, only Muslims who are against everything we stand for and who hate us. Should we kill the entire population?

Let them live in the cesspool they're used to. Let them kill each other, which is what they've been doing for centuries. Bring our brave soldiers home.

152 posted on 08/06/2011 10:39:52 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: quesney
What the hell were these people doing anywhere near Pakistan? They should’ve been home with their families on indefinite leave ...

Exactly. And as pointed out elsewhere, why in the hell are 31 special forces in one single helicopter?! This all stinks to high heaven.

I sense, for the first time ever, conservatives will be on the same side of an issue as Code Pink over this. Or Jodie Evans and her little band of sisters will forever surrender their right to exist.

Bring our men home now [following a 'shock and awe' retalitory strike] instead of leaving them there with there hands tied behind their backs by this usurper-in-chief.

153 posted on 08/06/2011 10:40:24 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: spiderfern
10 years we've been at war with these primitives, and they haven't managed to do anything on this scale. And to think: the first time and they take out so many witnesses to Osama's execution.

Geez, I just forgot all about those bonds being downgraded, too.

Rest in peace, brave warriors. I fear that your kind is very last bastion of hope.

154 posted on 08/06/2011 10:41:11 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: spiderfern

A few years a nephew, now retired CSM, linked me to a USArmy website providing stats on safety issues, injuries/fatalities due to accidental causes, etc., from which it was clear to me that accidents involving helicopters, in training and other routine non-combat ops, as well as crashes in combat zones not directly resulting from enemy action, are responsible for a large number of military fatalities.
Another major cause of deaths among milpers in stateside posts is off-duty motor vehicle crashes, mostly incidental to intemperate use of alcoholic beverages. Even in combat zones, a significant number of fatalities are due to non-enemy-involved accidents or mechanical failures.


155 posted on 08/06/2011 10:41:23 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: spiderfern

This is just too convenient, for my tastes.....

Something is radically wrong. Why would the Pentagon advertise the fact that it was SEAL Team Six that went down ?

This doesn’t make any sense whatsoever....


156 posted on 08/06/2011 10:41:38 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (What do you get when you add Obama to an economic depression ? O-ppression.)
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To: PLD

I agree...a set up. Just like the 7 CIA guys that were killed. Moles....plenty of them.


157 posted on 08/06/2011 10:41:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: tomkat
Sounds like there’s a mole(s) somewhere around HQ . . .


158 posted on 08/06/2011 10:42:36 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: All

And it happens just the day after US is downgraded...hmmm...talk about changing the conversation. How convenient is that also.


159 posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:03 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: USMCPOP

Prayers sent your way. This must be so difficult for you to read and think about...my sympathies.


160 posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:14 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: dfwgator

From a moral standpoint, it couldn’t be worse.

Not a word from the scumbag and chef. Too bad it wasn’t 32.


161 posted on 08/06/2011 10:43:59 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: spiderfern

There go all the witnesses. Bet there’s plenty of shredding going down,.


162 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Josephat

huma - one of the (many) moles at state.


163 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Ax

AF is having drinking water problems.


164 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:13 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: thefactor
Because, as of right, now they are the only ones we know of who died on the chopper. When the others are known they will get attention as well.

Reports are that 31 died, they were only SEALs?

'"The operators from SEAL Team Six were flown by a crew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment.

One source says the team was thought to include 22 SEALs, three Air Force air controllers, seven Afghan Army troops, a dog and his handler, and a civilian interpreter, plus the helicopter crew."'

165 posted on 08/06/2011 10:44:59 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Can we just turn Afghanistan into an EMPTY poppy field?

RIP, all who died in this attack. I can almost hear the wailing of all the brokenhearted SEAL families a hundred miles south of me. I cry for you today.


166 posted on 08/06/2011 10:45:24 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: All

This is awful. What are the odds?

The only remotely plausible explanation that would give any credit to BHO would be if this were a cover up to essentially put the warriors into a “witness protection program” of sorts to protect their identities. Given his innate disgust with the US military, however, it certainly is difficult to give the Keynan-In-Chief the benefit of the doubt.

More likely, there might have been sensitive details to the operation that ObaMao wanted to keep a lid on for whatever reason. Very reminiscent of Ron Brown’s “accident” during the Clinton years.

Or the whole thing was rank incompetence, allowing our best, most effective counterterrorist unit get on a chopper with non-US military personnel. Were all of the people on that chopper vetted by the CIA? Probably not. Easy pickings for a reprisal attack.

This, along with the premature disposal of UBL’s corpse make this whole affair reek to the high heaven. If there is anything worthy of an elaborate, expensive, and thorough Congressional investigation, this is it.

Or about twenty minutes with the Keynan and a waterboard might do the trick.


167 posted on 08/06/2011 10:46:20 AM PDT by Defender of American Liberty (Reeks of coverup)
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To: null and void

As they say in law enforcement....there is no such thing as coincidence.

This was a set up, I’d bet my house on that and no it is not encumbered with a mortgage....


168 posted on 08/06/2011 10:46:28 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: tomkat

HQ? How about the White House, since Obama was so intent on meeting these heroes. Remember that whole thing? They actually wanted to photograph them. I never heard whether they did or not.


169 posted on 08/06/2011 10:47:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: spiderfern

Ditto!

We are surrounded with traitors.


170 posted on 08/06/2011 10:47:40 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (The democRATS—just doing the groundwork for al Qaeda?)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

This makes me sick beyond belief. THIS IS YOUR FAULT KENYAN! Their blood is on your hands you fool.
I am just sick to my stomach right now....


171 posted on 08/06/2011 10:48:20 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: spiderfern
Some background, courtesy of the Financial Times:

“A series of Taliban assassinations has spread panic in Afghanistan’s ruling elite, increasing ethnic tensions and jeopardising the imminent transition from US and Nato forces to Afghan forces. As the military situation deteriorates, the dialogue process with the Taliban must be sped up. But for this to happen America must also suspend its own lethal night raids against Taliban targets.

Since March, seven top Afghans have been assassinated, including three in the critical southern province of Kandahar. They included Ahmed Wali Karzai, President Hamid Karzai’s brother and Ghulam Haider Hamidi, the mayor of Kabul, considered to be one of the most honest officials in Afghanistan – who were both killed in July....

This is where the night raids matter. The Pentagon, which has been at odds with President Barack Obama over the troop withdrawal, is not fully supportive of the current round of talks. It also considers night raids, carried out by special forces such as the elite Navy Seals, to be one of its major weapons to degrade the Taliban. Yet while the raids have killed numerous commanders, they also generate enormous fear among the wider population. There are strident demands by Mr Karzai to stop them. The Pentagon is not listening.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d056abd6-bd39-11e0-9d5d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1UGqc4GEo

It's worth reading the whole thing for the background, even if you disagree with the author's conclusions.

172 posted on 08/06/2011 10:48:40 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Seal Team 6 doesn’t even OFFICIALLY exist, AFAIK.

THIS time someone needs to PAY...all the way to the top.


173 posted on 08/06/2011 10:49:35 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: American Dream 246
And it happens just the day after US is downgraded...

Wag The Dog?

174 posted on 08/06/2011 10:49:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: miliantnutcase

Rips your guts right out.


175 posted on 08/06/2011 10:49:52 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: yldstrk

so, the “news media” is reporting the truth? pretty novel


176 posted on 08/06/2011 10:50:31 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: EBH

I am positively sick at this news. Could it have been a lucky shot at an incoming chopper? Yes, the chances are there.

But after the Bin Laden raid, and Robert Gates’ words about not being able to keep these men out of the press for more than 24 hours, someone(s) in that room should be held accountable.

Top picks..Brennan, Biden and Jarret.

I am sick to death at this..and can only pray for these men and their families, and work to make sure those responsible for leaks are hunted down. They are despicable and now have the blood of our finest on their hands. Damn them.


177 posted on 08/06/2011 10:52:19 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: spiderfern

After reading the FT article, it’s pretty clear that plans for this raid were leaked by someone in the Afghan military who was privy to them, to their friends in the Taliban.

This was a classic betrayal and ambush, and intended to send a message.


178 posted on 08/06/2011 10:53:47 AM PDT by mojito
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To: opentalk

I thought that odd for so many of them traveling together.


179 posted on 08/06/2011 10:53:49 AM PDT by spiderfern
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To: butterdezillion
(and to bury the issue of him releasing a forged birth certificate)?

Exactly my thoughts. Same cover up (downgrade) here. What a shame.
180 posted on 08/06/2011 10:55:57 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: spiderfern

The domestic enemy in the Oval Office is a threat to every American. Remove him NOW.


181 posted on 08/06/2011 10:56:30 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: cableguymn
I don’t think our Military would.

And our Joint Chiefs would never allow a foxhole to be occupied by fudge packers.

Our leadership has been queered up for a long time, so don't tell me what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom doesn’t affect me.

182 posted on 08/06/2011 10:56:43 AM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in.--No more traitors.)
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To: VanDeKoik

My feeling about the chopper down story before I got details was some sort of retaliation for killing bin Laden.


183 posted on 08/06/2011 10:57:32 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: SueRae

You skipped one...Obama. He couldn’t get to a camera fast enough that Sunday night to take his victory lap. He wanted to bring them (SEAL Team 6) to the WH (think like the Super Bowl champs) for a photo op.

If this was NOT an accident, then the Adm MADE ST6 targets with their proclaimations and media blitz.


184 posted on 08/06/2011 10:59:11 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: ansel12
I have been watching Fox News and they were talking about the SEALs so I had no info regarding the other crew/passengers.

This is just awful. Although the SEALs are the highest profile victims, all are missed and will be looked upon as heroes of the Republic.

185 posted on 08/06/2011 11:00:45 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: gusopol3

The leaks were possibly an attempt to get us to believe that what Obama told us had happened actually did.

The whole country is put at risk when you have a pathological liar/forger as your leader, because people need to have everything proven to them - which jeopardizes people who need to have the details secret. In order for some things to work you have to be able to TRUST, but that is impossible when the entire system has lied and broken laws in order to cover for an illegal (probably Kenyan) usurper.

There is nobody we can trust, and the politicians don’t comprehend what an impossible situation that places us all in. When the crooks control Congress, the White HOuse, all the regulatory agencies, law enforcement, the courts, the schools, the science community, and the media... there is no way for a country to survive. When will people realize that the infected, pus-filled abscess will kill a person if it is not removed? Unless we clean up the corruption so that the process can be trusted, we can only expect the good to die as a consequence of the conniving, traitorous bad holding all the power.

Every politician who poo-poohed the need for the rule of law as it related to Obama’s eligibility needs to answer for the details that have to be leaked just to try to convince the public that the lying, forging pretender in the White House is actually telling the truth on something for once. Let those politicians explain to the families of these SEALS that trust is such an insignificant, frivolous thing.


186 posted on 08/06/2011 11:01:55 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: freeangel
“I don’t think our Military would.”

In today's military, full of muslims? Why not?

187 posted on 08/06/2011 11:02:03 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Defender of American Liberty
Very reminiscent of Ron Brown’s “accident” during the Clinton years.

I still wonder if the "accident" was due to a .45 Magsafe or a .45 Glaser.

188 posted on 08/06/2011 11:02:14 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Blood on their hands and I for one will never forget this. Just let my Navy son in Norfolk know. He texted me “wow, what a coincidence”.


189 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:22 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: SueRae

“Top picks..Brennan, Biden and Jarret.”

But, isn’t it hussein that meets on a regular basis with the muslim brotherhood. Surely, if this was supposed to be another mission to get a top level muzzie, hussein would have been in on it.


190 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:43 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Tuxedo

I hope that whole mountainside is obliterated. ROE no more.
I am sick to my stomach over this loss.

Good tagline.


191 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:43 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: spiderfern

I come from a Navy family ...

Used to be that when special ops were carried out, only the result and scant details were released to the public ...

NOW, the government feels compelled to primp and preen in front of the media - giving up MOST of the details of the op ...

Any idiot in Afghanistan could run with this information that was served up on a silver platter and [with a little detective work on his own] figure out who, what, where, when, why, and how ...

Then, its easy to lay in wait ...

The government should shut the fu*k up !!!


192 posted on 08/06/2011 11:03:51 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: taraytarah

Keep the removal thought and enrage a liberal by supporting the Naval Special Warfare Foundation. Great organization in times like these.
Not unusual to have an entire assault element on one bird. Just sucks, time to help those families, leave the dead to care for the dead, time for us Living in Christ to show compassion and Love to those families.


193 posted on 08/06/2011 11:04:35 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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White House photo of President Obama learning about the helicopter crash in Afghanistan that claimed 31 U.S. lives, including over 20 members of SEAL Team 6, the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden. None of the members who took part in the bin Laden raid itself are believed to be among the dead.
194 posted on 08/06/2011 11:04:54 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: Vaquero

Huma.


195 posted on 08/06/2011 11:04:58 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Servant of the Cross
Wag The Dog?

Yes, incredible that only the traitors in government learn so well the tricks. How come the populace never learn or remember? Same old tricks and the people still fall for it. So sad.
196 posted on 08/06/2011 11:06:54 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: spiderfern

Man, do I smell a rat!


197 posted on 08/06/2011 11:07:55 AM PDT by ducttape45
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To: LA Woman3

Why would there be a photo of this unless it was planned? Or are you just spoofing the “serious and presidential” look from an archive of photos of this nitwit?


198 posted on 08/06/2011 11:08:42 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: LA Woman3

What GOLF course pros’ office was this photo taken in? It looks like 1980s office equipment. They pull him off the course? Note, golf shirt is the perfect shade of HopeyChangey Blue.


199 posted on 08/06/2011 11:09:47 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom ( Barry, eat your own damn peas.)
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To: spiderfern

The seals are very very descreet in all that they do...Someone somewhere leaked something...Its also sounds like someone (obama) wanted the attention away from the credit rating dropping...Something is not right here!


200 posted on 08/06/2011 11:10:51 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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