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Did Bidenís Loose Lips Sink a Team 6 Airship?
Patterico's Pontifications ^ | 8/6/2011 | Patterico

Posted on 08/06/2011 2:12:54 PM PDT by Qbert

After Bin Laden was killed, Robert Gates was insistent that nothing be revealed about the unit that accomplished the deed. But one man could not keep his mouth shut: Joe Biden, who credited the SEALs in a speech:

Let me briefly acknowledge tonight’s distinguished honorees. Admiral James Stavridis is a, is the real deal. He can tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALs and what they did last Sunday.

Further irresponsible leaks from the Obama administration revealed the unit involved, causing the unit members to fear for their safety and that of their families:

The Department of Defense is looking into ways to “pump up the security” for the team of Navy SEALs who helped kill Osama bin Laden after the commandos expressed concern for their safety and the safety of their families, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday.

Gates made the comment in response to a question at a town hall meeting at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. A Marine asked what measures were being taken to protect “the identities and the lives” of the SEALs involved in the takedown of bin Laden in Pakistan a week ago, as well as other troops deployed in the region, from the threat of retaliation.

“We are very concerned about the security of our families – of your families and our troops, and also these elite units that are engaged in things like that. And without getting into any details … I would tell you that when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families,” Gates told the audience.

“Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden. That all fell apart on Monday, the next day.”

Gates specifically talked about the fear of potential retaliation:

Gates acknowledged the threat of retaliation against Team 6 and troops deployed in the region.

“There is an awareness that the threat of retaliation is increased because of the attacks – because of the action against bin Laden,” he said.

Today, that retaliation may have come to pass, as a Taliban RPG killed at least 20 members of Team 6, in “the single deadliest incident for U.S. soldiers by far” in the Afghanistan war. The members apparently were not part of the group involved in the raid, we are told (why are we told this? Won’t it keep the jihadis hunting?), and there is no way to know whether this was an orchestrated ambush targeting Team 6. But it is an important reminder why it’s not just comedy relief to have cynical glory-seekers and complete buffoons at the highest levels of


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; badgenerals; badleadership; biden; collusion; conspiracy; idiotveep; jihad; joebiden; looselips; marxistprez; muslimprez; navyseals; seals; talibanshootdown
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1 posted on 08/06/2011 2:12:58 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Biden or someone else, this was a setup, IMO.


2 posted on 08/06/2011 2:14:40 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Qbert

Bastard RATS!!!

Biden should be called out.


3 posted on 08/06/2011 2:14:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: combat_boots

I know more and more why Gates left.


4 posted on 08/06/2011 2:15:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Qbert

Perhaps this has something to do with all those “there is no such thing as Seal Team 6” and “Seal Team 6 was actually disbanded several years ago” stories that came out immediately after Bin Laden got whacked.

Remember how Disney wanted to come out with some kind of “Seal Team 6” product and got talked out of it?


5 posted on 08/06/2011 2:16:23 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Qbert

The blood is still on Obama’s hands. He had to choose such a complete idot for a VP!


6 posted on 08/06/2011 2:17:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll (BUMP)
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To: combat_boots

They are politicians.

We are expendable.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 2:17:25 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Qbert

Stand up, VP Crackedhead.

Biden, Obama, a jihadist on board, etc. Bottom line, this was a set up well planned and executed.


8 posted on 08/06/2011 2:17:28 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Qbert

Its time for the firestorm from hell to rain down upon every village in Afghanistan where there MIGHT be a single taliban. Its time to win the war. Of course with the wimps we have running the show we are too worried about staining our “image” abroad so instead we just hang around and be targets.


9 posted on 08/06/2011 2:17:59 PM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Qbert
Face the long-known truth: the apparently benign-intentioned but bungling idiots are the ones you have to watch out for. Sh*t-eating jerkoff morons like Biden will do more harm than Snidely Whiplash.
10 posted on 08/06/2011 2:18:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Qbert

Biden obviously blows but don’t these ragheads just randomly shoot at anything that looks like a US copter?

I mean attributing this to some directed plot @ Seals gleaned from Scranton Joes’s blathering?
Can someone ‘splain to me?


11 posted on 08/06/2011 2:18:49 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Qbert

Now let’s see if they make as big a deal out of this as they made out of Valerie Plame.
Knowing these hypocrits they will say nothing. I detest this administration.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 2:18:57 PM PDT by mardi59 (T)
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To: Qbert

never forget that the left **hates** the US military (the love the USSR/Chinese military)

that said, they have no problem pouring our guys into a meat grind and doing everything they can to compromise their safety

spreading intel on our boys & girls is only part of the problem. deliberately putting no-win missions together is another


13 posted on 08/06/2011 2:19:37 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Qbert
The President as Commander in Chief is responsible for the safety of our soldiers.

The whole "show" about taking down Bin Laden should be told....in 50 years.

Damn President knows nothing about war....or anything else.

14 posted on 08/06/2011 2:19:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: msrngtp2002
Of course with the wimps we have running the show we are too worried about staining our “image” abroad so instead we just hang around and be targets.

Maybe so, but research has shown that muslims can raise their self-esteem by taking out a few American soldiers.

15 posted on 08/06/2011 2:20:26 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Qbert; Lmo56
Ping
16 posted on 08/06/2011 2:22:15 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: combat_boots

Yep.
Way too coincidental. Its not the only gunship is it?
This was a payback out of our own system.


17 posted on 08/06/2011 2:22:16 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Qbert

If it’s true the many members of SEAL Team 6 were aboard this helicoptor...I can’t help but ask myself why they were taken out. Why? Because THEY are the only ones that know spit about this operation and the results of it. And now that information could be gone.


18 posted on 08/06/2011 2:23:24 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Steely Tom
You know what I don't like about the whole thing....We lost the real witnesses.

Everything else can be sabotaged, altered, shredded....whatever...

19 posted on 08/06/2011 2:23:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Qbert

It was collusion. At the highest levels.

Damn Biden, Damn Gates, Damn the moron _resident!!!


20 posted on 08/06/2011 2:24:06 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Qbert

Joe Biden is a total idiot. It was kinda funny to laugh at his dumb gaffs like an old crazy uncle or something, but if his big mouth is responsible for the lost lives of our troops, then he should be held accountable for this. This is reprehensible. When will we learn, you can not put liberals in charge of our military. They can’t be trusted.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 2:24:34 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: Qbert

It was collusion. At the highest levels.

Damn Biden, Damn Gates, Damn the moron _resident!!!


22 posted on 08/06/2011 2:24:44 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: RowdyFFC

You beat me by 11 seconds.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 2:24:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RowdyFFC

It looks like a clean up job to me.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 2:27:00 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: RowdyFFC

3 of the 4 ATF agents killed at Waco were Clinton’s bodyguards during his campaign.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 2:28:42 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Sacajaweau
You are precisely correct, my FRiend.

A CIC should never reveal classified information, especially in order to crow about an operation (which he presumably had nothing to do with.)

My guess is that President Dubya would have downplayed it wisely, and credited the military, but not revealed anything about our assets.

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26 posted on 08/06/2011 2:30:03 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Sacajaweau

“The President as Commander in Chief is responsible for the safety of our soldiers.”

Yep. Many of us could see months ago that something like this was likely to happen- the administration cared more about trying to boost Obama’s poll numbers by making a big public show about the kill, instead of doing the sound thing and taking credit, but leaving out the details that nobody in the public needed to know.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 2:30:05 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

If there is any one a-hole on this planet who has built up a lifetime of Karma, in the form of punches in the mouth, it’s “The Delaware Doofus’’ himself. Biden makes me sick. The guys an ass and he knows it- he revels in it.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 2:30:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Paperdoll

You don´t honestly think barry cares, do you?


29 posted on 08/06/2011 2:30:30 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: sten
"never forget that the left **hates** the US military (the love the USSR/Chinese military)

Seal Team 6 should be deployed in DC.

30 posted on 08/06/2011 2:31:17 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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Today, that retaliation may have come to pass, as a Taliban RPG killed at least 20 members of Team 6, in “the single deadliest incident for U.S. soldiers by far” in the Afghanistan war.

The media sure seems to have a pecking order for whose lives are newsworthy, evidently you have to be a SEAL to matter, we have seen this before, when the GIs dying with the SEALS were always described in an afterthought if at all.

31 posted on 08/06/2011 2:33:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Qbert

..a heart beat away

32 posted on 08/06/2011 2:36:04 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: msrngtp2002

“Its time for the firestorm from hell to rain down upon every village in Afghanistan ... “

Hell, no. Under our present leadership and ROE, we will go to each and every village, apologize, and promise we won’t do it again. Whatever ‘it’ is.

Every freakin general/admiral who signed off on the Afghan ROE should resign in disgrace, together with our Boy President and his clown VP. None of them should receive a dime of federal benefits or pension. This kind of ‘leadership’ is too incompetent for the world’s formerly sole superpower.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 2:36:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Paperdoll
The blood is still on Obama’s hands. He had to choose such a complete idot for a VP!

Where would Obama possibly find a better life insurance policy than Joe Biden as VP?

34 posted on 08/06/2011 2:36:48 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Qbert
I think it will come to past...that Gates will blow Obama out of the water.I know Gates was livid about many things controlled by the Commander in Chief. But there is no substitute for the truth.

I believe Gates will leave us "facts" and "truths"...but this is not the time because we have troops to protect and the enemy needs no "The USA is Wrong" news.

Gates was p***** about us going into Libya, too.

35 posted on 08/06/2011 2:37:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MikeSteelBe
3 of the 4 ATF agents killed at Waco were Clinton’s bodyguards during his campaign.

Just a coincidence....../s

36 posted on 08/06/2011 2:37:56 PM PDT by newfreep (I am a "terrorist" and I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: Doogle

That’s the scariest photo and caption I’ve seen today.


37 posted on 08/06/2011 2:39:01 PM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: combat_boots
Biden or someone else, this was a setup, IMO.

In that crazy theater of war? No way, it was just another military tragic event and to imply that what Biden said may have led to it is ridiculous.

38 posted on 08/06/2011 2:39:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: RowdyFFC

What you suggest is all too real a possibility.


39 posted on 08/06/2011 2:46:39 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Qbert

And how many Republicans will be EXCORIATING Biden for his stupidity?? ZERO!!!!!!


40 posted on 08/06/2011 2:46:57 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: nascarnation

“I mean attributing this to some directed plot @ Seals gleaned from Scranton Joes’s blathering?
Can someone ‘splain to me?”

I’m not going to say it’s a fact, but the deadliest attack of this nature, coming so soon after the info was divulged raises serious questions.

(Also, I don’t think we know how much info the Paks gathered and leaked about the downed stealth helo in the OBL kill. I wonder if the Seals had to stop using some of the technology because of that- and it certainly doesn’t help matters with what Biden and the others said).


41 posted on 08/06/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

With respect, I disagree.

The house in question was the ‘wrong house.’

All 25 were on the same gunship/Chinook.

We took in a Haqqani earlier this week. Karzai’s brother was recently killed. And Bin Laden was taken out. We are ‘negotiating’ with the Taliban.

My opinion is actually that someone has wanted better poll numbers for a certain person, and this was the price. 25 SEALS, 30 Americans. At that, among the best of us.

Politicians do that—betray. They’ll sacrifice whatever they can, including you, and smile and kiss your baby. All for power, money, and more and more. If you know someone(s) who’s been betrayed by a politician or his/her henchmen, you know what I mean.


42 posted on 08/06/2011 2:56:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: msrngtp2002

“Its time for the firestorm from hell to rain down upon every village in Afghanistan where there MIGHT be a single taliban”

From your keyboard to God’s ears!


44 posted on 08/06/2011 2:58:47 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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45 posted on 08/06/2011 3:00:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Bryanw92

Oh now that’s what we’re talking about...!!!!


46 posted on 08/06/2011 3:00:40 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Qbert

Stupid thread. Talibanis shoot rpgs at everything that flies and they have little clue and even less care about what Biden might have muttered.


47 posted on 08/06/2011 3:04:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Paperdoll

This is why Obama Picked Biden.....
the Communists call him a “Usefull Idiot”


48 posted on 08/06/2011 3:04:59 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Paperdoll

This is why Obama Picked Biden.....
the Communists call him a “Usefull Idiot”


49 posted on 08/06/2011 3:05:05 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Good God, I guess we’re to believe they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time, right? Garsh how many ‘accidental’ deaths can we attribute to the Clintons?

That’s a new one for me. I admit I wasn’t paying as much attention back then as I do now. But I did know that bringing in military staff and tanks from Ft. Hood was a HUGE violation of posse comitatus.


50 posted on 08/06/2011 3:07:25 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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