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Copter Downed by Taliban Fire; Elite U.S. Unit Among Dead
New York Times ^ | 6 AUGUST 2011 | RAY RIVERA, ALISSA J. RUBIN and THOM SHANKER

Posted on 08/06/2011 3:36:59 PM PDT by rdb3

KABUL, Afghanistan — In the deadliest day for American forces in the nearly decade-long war in Afghanistan, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter on Saturday, killing 30 Americans, including some Navy Seal commandos from the unit that killed Osama bin Laden, as well as 8 Afghans, American and Afghan officials said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afganistan; afghanistan; biden; binladen; ch47; navy; navyseals; obama; obamasfault; osama; seals; sealteam6; taliban; talibanshootdown; usn; usnavy
First read of this incident here.

Biden's big mouth!


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1 posted on 08/06/2011 3:37:04 PM PDT by rdb3
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2 posted on 08/06/2011 3:42:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: rdb3

In this photo taken in 2008, US Army soldiers and Afghan National Army soldiers take positions after racing off a UH-47 Chinook helicopter in Khost province. A total of 31 members of the US special forces have died in a helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan along with seven Afghans, a statement from Afghan President Hamid Karzai's office said
3 posted on 08/06/2011 3:42:58 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: rdb3
the deadliest day for American forces...


4 posted on 08/06/2011 3:45:43 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

We have a general Idea where these scumbags are. So what we should do is get about 30 B52s and ARCLIGHT the area.
But we cant do that...that wouldnt be fair.


5 posted on 08/06/2011 3:50:41 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: rdb3

A RPG through the helicopter as they were pulling out after raiding a Taliban house.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 3:51:09 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: rdb3
Wow....what a loss of the best and the bravest. My sympathies goes out to the families.

I noticed Obama gave his usual canned TOTUS[?] response to this tragedy--was he not deliberately holding the men and women as well as their families hostage during the budget crisis?

I have nothing good to say about this president, he cannot be gone soon enough.

7 posted on 08/06/2011 3:51:38 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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The fact that the tragedy represents the single largest loss of life in one instant during the entire 10-year Afghan campaign is itself another important factor. The inevitable question is what effect this will have on the prosecution of the campaign itself – and opinions will be divided.

Although the full details of the engagement are still to be clarified it would appear that the loss occurred as a special forces team was returning from a raid on an insurgents' headquarters that had resulted in the killing of a number of Taliban fighters – possibly commanders among them. -Telegraph.co.uk, By Richard Dannatt, former Chief of the General Staff

8 posted on 08/06/2011 3:56:49 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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I played the piece.........http://aimini.net/view/?fid=ajK0X0veB6xWd8tiTXh3 with the Violin, beautiful, but made me feel very sad for the family’s of those troops who were killed, even though the title is Sad Romance.

Thanks


9 posted on 08/06/2011 3:57:08 PM PDT by buck61
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To: rdb3

I don’t know the level of intelligence gathering the taliban has. I do know it was a mistake of treasonable level to exclose the details of OBL’s hit. This is another nail in the subzero administration’s coffin. Just my 2cents.


10 posted on 08/06/2011 3:58:22 PM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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Get everybody out of that hell hole.Nuke their poppy fields and come home.


11 posted on 08/06/2011 3:58:37 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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Yeah, but that would take a potus on our side wouldn’t it?


12 posted on 08/06/2011 3:59:48 PM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: SpaceBar

Are they dancing in the streets of New York City yet?


13 posted on 08/06/2011 4:00:14 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why did the brass have so many of our best all in one machine? Have the brass fallen in love with using them? Why are we still in that Sh!t hole anyways, Alexander the Great got bloddied there bad, as did the British at the height of their power, the Russians and now the US of A. What the F*ck is the mission and what is the exit plan? What does winning look like?


14 posted on 08/06/2011 4:00:37 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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And our objective in Afghanistan is....???
And what is the exit strategy...???


15 posted on 08/06/2011 4:03:17 PM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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Out of Iraq, Afgh, and Libya NOW. No more dying for Obama.


16 posted on 08/06/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by gotribe
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To: rdb3

“insurgents shot down a Chinook”

who would be these insurgents?


17 posted on 08/06/2011 4:07:30 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: rdb3; reefdiver
Thanks for posting, rdb3.

Why did the brass have so many of our best all in one machine?

My thoughts also. Inside info by Afghanis for the Taliban (or worse permutations of that line of thinking)?

The finest of America's finest. The greatest Americans the rest of the world may never know. Condolences to their families and friends.

18 posted on 08/06/2011 4:28:04 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: GAB-1955
"An RPG through the helicopter as they were pulling out after raiding a Taliban house."

The Guardian (UK) is reporting that the Chinook was taken down by a surface-to-air misslie. If their reporting is correct - this could be a game changer. The last time I did a Google search on shoulder fired S-to-A missiles (a year or two ago) I found out that Russia, China, and even Egypt were manufacturing these "Stinger-type" guided weapons...with varying degrees of technology.
19 posted on 08/06/2011 4:28:49 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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Interestingly - the Guardian.UK article has now been modified to blame the downing on an RPG. Smoke of battle?


20 posted on 08/06/2011 4:55:51 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: rdb3
30 J-DAM must GO NOW!

Level Afgan-a-dam!

21 posted on 08/06/2011 4:58:01 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Rush Limbaugh, "Once upon an America")
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The best destroyed by our government. Obama, Hillary, Holder, Homeland Security and the rest should be held responsible. Not only should they be kicked out of office; but they should be in prison for life.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 5:01:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Obama, Hillary and the rest of our government are murderers.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 5:14:33 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rdb3

I have been seeing this story all day.

I can’t express how sad and upset it makes me for us to lose so many fine young men. I really hope it does not turn out to be for nothing.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 5:33:08 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: rdb3

Did Obama have them killed?


25 posted on 08/06/2011 5:49:05 PM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: gotribe
"Out of Iraq, Afgh, and Libya NOW. No more dying for Obama."

I hope you know how stupid that statement is.

Two outta three you can pin on Bush. He did not get the job, as he defined it, done in his two. O is just keepin' on to keep on there.

O owns the Libya problem, but no US fighters are "dying for Obama" there.

I agree we oughta be out of all three, but you can't pin it on Obama.

26 posted on 08/06/2011 6:15:17 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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Why do Spec-Op’s men have to fly aircraft that can be heard approaching from 20 miles? Did someone decide it would save money?


27 posted on 08/06/2011 6:23:56 PM PDT by fso301
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That makes the most sense. Pure setup.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 6:43:05 PM PDT by himno hero
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That makes the most sense. Pure setup.

Its the improbability that makes it probable. That wasn’t the only helicopter in the air, but it was with that payload. Way too coincidental to be random.


29 posted on 08/06/2011 6:45:24 PM PDT by himno hero
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LEON PENETTA is the Sec. of Defense. What a loser commie POS! He found his level of incompetence...too bad American sons had to die to prove the point!


30 posted on 08/06/2011 6:58:59 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Considering the timing of the news, on a Saturday, it wouldn’t surprise me.


31 posted on 08/06/2011 7:10:21 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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I was trying to remember which one of these treasonous bturds announced their unit to the press when they were flapping their wings about how brave it was of Obammy to kill BinLaden. It was Biden?! Figures.


32 posted on 08/06/2011 8:14:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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I am sickened by this news. Obozo needs to be held responsible and tried as a traitor....at the very least. The pig is probably smoking a joint right about now.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 10:27:39 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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Makes me think of the T-shirt Bill O’Reilly has been hawking on his TV show: Seals 1 Bin Laden 0. Even though it wasn’t Bin Laden personally because he’s supposedly dead, but it was his sympathizers. Will he still hawk this?


34 posted on 08/07/2011 9:40:44 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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Gentlemen ....here are some thoughts that I've had over the past 24 hours ...



For starters, I've been at Free Republic since 1996 ... so I'm NOT a Troll ...

As Jackie Gleason used to say "And Away We Go ..."





1) Osama Bin Laden was (carefully stated) the most "publicly visible" War Criminal since Hitler ...


2) Osama Bin Laden and Al Quada (sp) have certainly infiltrated the continental United States ... possibly a couple of years before 9/11 ... they CERTAINLY have Assasins and Sleeper Agents here ...


3) Osama Bin Laden might have actually been "hiding" in Pakistan and then Executed-Captured by the United States military a few months back ... but who REALLY knows ?


4) "SEAL Team Six" may not even ACTUALLY exist ... except on a Pentagon Public Relations / Counterintelligence chart ...


5) If I were the POTUS I actually would have assisted the Pentagon into "fabricating" the story of SEAL Team Six ... CERTAINLY THE UNIT'S names ... and possibly even Osama Bin Laden's capture-killing ...


6) Why fabricate a ficticious military unit SEAL Team Six ?


7) To protect the ACTUAL combat fighters and their families, relatives and GRANDCHILDREN for the next fifty (50) years ... against Al Quada retaliation ...


8) And what is the BEST way to handle this entire scenario ?


9) Allegedly kill Osama Bin Laden ... BURY HIM AT SEA (?????)


10) THEN ... MURDER or pretend to murder (by tragic accident, of course) ... the ENTIRE military unit SEAL Team Six ...


11) Dead Men tell no tales ... and this is "made for Hollywood" movie special ... ala "Wag the Dog" ...


12) At a minimum, IF there was a SEAL Team Six who really did kill Osama Bin Laden ... ALL OF THEIR SECRETS are now buried with them ...


13) Moreover, their Commanding Officers, CIA-NSA contacts, Support personnel will also be DEAD soon ... and all records mysteriously disappear ...


14) Could either President Bush or Bill Clinton EVER approved such a devious and EVIL plan ?


15) No ... not even Bill Clinton ...


16) Can you say THAT about U.S. President Barry Sorreto ?


17) No. He is EVIL. He is NERO in Rome. He is a traitor.


18) He is "Obama Bin Laden" (no mispelling) ... the FIRST moslem POTUS ...


19) And as Barry will whisper into Mooschelle's ears tonight in their Whitehouse Bedroom ... "May Allah be Praised" ...




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35 posted on 08/07/2011 12:41:02 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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7) To protect the ACTUAL combat fighters and their families, relatives and GRANDCHILDREN for the next fifty (50) years ... against Al Quada retaliation ...


8) And what is the BEST way to handle this entire scenario ?


9) Allegedly kill Osama Bin Laden ... BURY HIM AT SEA (?????)


10) THEN ... MURDER or pretend to murder (by tragic accident, of course) ... the ENTIRE military unit SEAL Team Six ...


11) Dead Men tell no tales ... and this is "made for Hollywood" movie special ... ala "Wag the Dog" ...


12) At a minimum, IF there was a SEAL Team Six who really did kill Osama Bin Laden ... ALL OF THEIR SECRETS are now buried with them ...


13) Moreover, their Commanding Officers, CIA-NSA contacts, Support personnel will also be DEAD soon ... and all records mysteriously disappear ...


14) Could either President Bush or Bill Clinton EVER approved such a devious and EVIL plan ?


15) No ... not even Bill Clinton ...


16) Can you say THAT about U.S. President Barry Sorreto ?


17) No. He is EVIL. He is NERO in Rome. He is a traitor.


18) He is "Obama Bin Laden" (no mispelling) ... the FIRST moslem POTUS ...


19) And as Barry will whisper into Mooschelle's ears tonight in their Whitehouse Bedroom ... "May Allah be Praised" ...

Very interesting, yet disturbing...


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36 posted on 08/07/2011 3:51:04 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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