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Hiroshima 6 August 1945
brucelewis.com ^ | August 6, 2011 | Bruce Lewis

Posted on 08/06/2011 4:13:19 PM PDT by Shalmaneser

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To: susannah59

My dad was on Okinawa waiting to deploy for the invasion. He was on an LSM (Landing Ship Medium). Their job was to ferry troops to the beach. Life expectancy? Very brief. Except for Truman’s decision, like you I might not be around today.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 4:43:39 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Can you please give us your source for this? Thanks.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 4:45:52 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Shalmaneser

Should be AFGANASTAN 2011!


23 posted on 08/06/2011 4:49:47 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Rush Limbaugh, "Once upon an America")
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Some of the individuals you named may have expressed reservations, but I don't think one of them was inexorably and adamantly opposed to Hiroshima. I cannot even think of any reason that Curtis LeMay was on that list. His reaction to Hiroshima was mild contempt, remarking that his boys killed that many before breakfast. The others may have had self interest. In the case of MacAuthur, particularly, for instance, the only unit in the Pacific that did not report to him was the 509th Composite Bombardment Group and he was unaware of its mission and only found out about it after the fact. The only orders he received relative to Hiroshima was *not* to make a (Goddamnn) press release that would embarrass the Army and the United States.

If you are going to make scattershot representations on behalf of the dead, it behooves you to cite a little more evidence than a list of names. Even isolated statements taken out of context are better than merely assigning an opinion you favor to a respected historical figure.

24 posted on 08/06/2011 4:52:51 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Shalmaneser
Through the pursuit of economic war Japan has thoroughly recovered - though often at our expense.

Hiroshima today - contrast this with most American cities.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 4:57:14 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: susannah59

My dad was in the Navy on the USS Saratoga. He told me they were preparing them to invade Japan and that a high percentage would not be coming home. Then the bomb dropped, Japan surrendered and the USS Saratoga became troop transport.

War is hell. If we go to war, we go in to win at all costs and as quickly as possible.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 5:03:49 PM PDT by bubbacluck (Proud Hobbit with no intention of going back to Middle Earth.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
You might be interested in what the ADL has to say about the IHR.
29 posted on 08/06/2011 5:13:30 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: mitch5501

“You think of the lives which would have been lost in an invasion of Japan’s home islands – a staggering number of Americans but millions more of Japanese...”

That about sums it up.The one thing worse than dropping the bomb would have been not dropping it.”

Agreed 100%


31 posted on 08/06/2011 5:22:25 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
My Dad was a lead bombardier in the 8th Air Force halfway through his tour when the war in Europe ended. He was in training in B-29s and they DID NOT want to fight the Japanese (they kamikazied lead planes and dropped phosphorus on them). Like others here, I always bought the "It saved a million GI's and Japanese too!" line and thought I owed my life to the bomb. But I'm afraid that is Truman revisionism and meant to make us all feel swell about "The Good War".

Once again, you've stated your opinion as fact with no supporting evidence or logic.

Try adding in the evidence/logic and your opinion might be given some respect, until then, it is so much hogwash.
32 posted on 08/06/2011 5:23:59 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My dad was also on Okinawa with the 319th BG already flying missions over Japan and this was following a full tour in the ETO. The loss and extreme suffering experienced by Soldiers and Marines against the fanatical Japanese convinced them all that invading Japan would have been a nightmare of death. When I was an enlisted Marine I had the chance to talk with some of the Marines who fought their way across Guadalcanal, Peleliu, Iwo Jima and on other islands and they all were convinced that the bombs ended the war and saved a large part of their generation.

Fewer were killed with the two bombs than in the Rape of Nanking or in the firebombings of Japanese cities. Which is worse, the low-ball estimated loss of a million+ on both sides or the few hundred thousand lost in the bombings?

They were warned by the planner of the Pearl Harbor attack that it was a mistake to attack the U.S. but they didn’t listen and they suffered the consequences.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 5:24:32 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Fresh Wind

Thanks!!!!!!!!

Definitely not a fan of the ADL, but if I quoted a sleazy or bogus site, please don’t hold it against me. Thanks for the heads up!


34 posted on 08/06/2011 5:28:37 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Days .... Weeks ..... Months .....)
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36 posted on 08/06/2011 5:41:23 PM PDT by RedMDer (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Fresh Wind
"On August 6, 1945, the world dramatically entered the atomic age: without either warning or precedent, an American plane dropped a single nuclear bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima."

Fresh Wind (#29), in the link that Forgotten Amendments (#26) provided, this first sentence contains utter and absolute LIES. First, the United States dropped leaflets on both Hiroshima and Nagasaki days before the A-bombs, warning the residents of bombs that would destroy their cities. Second, the precedent of Curtis LeMay's firebombing raids on many Japanese cities was proof that the U.S. could and would destroy a city. As a result, this site is simply untrustworthy without spending a lot more time wading through to separate any facts from lies, sophistry, and half-truths.

I also would also be cautious about trusting any sites provide by the person who talks about "Truman revisionism."

37 posted on 08/06/2011 5:44:46 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Forgotten Amendments

***Douglass MacArthur

Dwight Eisenhour

Curtis LeMay****

They might have had a different opinion if they knew THEY were going to be in the first landing craft to hit Japan’s shores.

My dad served with Patton in Europe. He almost got Patton’s war with the Russians started.

He was sent back to the US to train for the invasion of Japan.


38 posted on 08/06/2011 5:53:24 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: mitch5501

When Germany became toast, Japan was immediately charcoal.


39 posted on 08/06/2011 5:54:27 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My grandfather was there. On the Hancock. It’s been great going through his war journal during the last days of the war.


40 posted on 08/06/2011 6:11:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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