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Obama's soft response to Tea Party draws liberal criticism
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Posted on 08/06/2011 5:08:55 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama's soft response to Tea Party draws liberal criticism By Alexander Bolton - 08/06/11 07:15 PM ET

Liberals are growing frustrated with President Obama’s soft response to the Tea Party after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday.

Republicans and Democrats have unleashed fusillades of attack against each other in the wake of the announcement but Obama has stayed quiet, frustrating his party’s base.

“It’s hard to see how we avoid a Tea-Party recession if the president who has the biggest megaphone in the country is not willing to speak clearly on the issue,” Justin Ruben, executive director of MoveOn.org, told The Hill in a Saturday afternoon interview.

Ruben said Obama should never have allowed Tea-Party lawmakers in the House to treat a debt-limit extension as a concession to Democrats given the nation’s entire economy depended on it.

By accepting the threat of a national default as politically valid, Obama put himself at a major disadvantage in the talks, he said.

“It’s a terrible deal that will destroy jobs and big part of reason is because president accepted the premise that it was okay to hold economy hostage,” Ruben said. “Instead of saying, 'this is outrageous' and ‘You will not threaten the full faith and credit of the U.S.,’ and telling America what the Republicans are doing, he sat down and said, 'let’s bargain' and tried to show he was more reasonable.”

Reuben said a potential default should have never been within the parameters of the debate.

“That table should not have existed,” he said.

Liberal activists were instrumental to Obama beating Hillary Clinton in the caucus states — which require more opportunities for face-to-face persuasion than larger states — during the 2008 Democratic presidential primary.

MoveOn.org endorsed Obama on Feb. 1, 2008, shortly before Super Tuesday, a crucial round of balloting.

Obama won the nomination by racking up wins — often by large margins — in smaller states with caucus systems, such as Iowa, Colorado, Idaho, Minnesota, North Dakota and Nebraska. Clinton captured large states with primaries such as California, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas.

The president has been careful not to blame the Tea Party for the nation’s credit downgrade even though many Democrats and some independent political experts think he could make a strong case.

“The President believes it is important that our elected leaders come together to strengthen our economy and put our nation on a stronger fiscal footing,” said White House press secretary Jay Carney in a statement that seemed anodyne compared to the remarks of GOP presidential candidates and lawmakers.

“The bipartisan compromise on deficit reduction was an important step in the right direction. Yet, the path to getting there took too long and was at times too divisive. We must do better to make clear our nation’s will, capacity and commitment to work together to tackle our major fiscal and economic challenges,” Carney said.

This type of response has led some of the president’s supporters to think that he is bringing a plate of muffins to a street brawl.

Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann led the attack against Obama on Friday night.

“America’s creditworthiness just became the latest casualty in President Obama’s failed record of leadership on the economy,” Romney said in statement. “His failed policies have led to high unemployment, skyrocketing deficits, and now, the unprecedented loss of our nation’s prized AAA credit rating.”

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who is vying to win the Iowa Republican caucus next year, turned up the rhetoric even higher.

“This president has destroyed the credit rating of the United States through failed economic policies and his inability to control government spending by raising the debt ceiling,” she said. “President Obama is destroying the foundation’s of our economy one beam at a time.”

Bachmann voted against the final debt deal, as well as the Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) proposal. She also accused the Obama administration of "scare tactics" for warning about a possible U.S. default if no action were taken.

Obama may be trying to neutralize the acid partisan environment in Washington, which Standard & Poor’s cited in its decision to downgrade the U.S.

“We have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics anytime soon,” Standard & Poor’s wrote in its overview.

Ross K. Baker, a political science professor at Rutgers University, who has studied Congress throughout his career and served fellowships in the Senate, said he thinks the Tea Party is more responsible for standoff that led to Friday’s downgrade.

“I think they shoulder a major responsibility for the blame. They set the agenda,” Baker said. "The advent of such a large number of house members endorsed by the Tea Party made sure that budget cutting was going to be on the advantage. They pressed their advantage beyond which a point compromise was possible."

Baker characterized the president’s pushback against the Tea Party as lacking muscle.

“The president has to put some muscle in his rhetoric and go after the Tea Party as home wreckers. I think the president in following his own precept in being a conciliator. It’s great and quite noble but he’s in a situation in which he really has to stand up for things in which he believes,” Baker said.

Democratic senators did not think Obama used his bully pulpit effectively to set up the negotiations.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) told The Hill at the end of June “the leadership has to be more outspoken and make the case.”

“This is the biggest courtroom in the world, and you can’t get a verdict that is positive without making the argument,” he said.

They were more critical when speaking on condition of anonymity.

House Democratic leaders did not follow Obama’s example in reacting to Standard & Poor’s downgrading, placing blame squarely on Tea Party Republicans.

"The American people need the Republicans to stop their reckless and irresponsible political games that led to this unfortunate downgrade,” said House Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn (S.C.). “They have repeatedly walked away from the negotiating table whenever the two sides got close to a balanced blend of both spending cuts and revenue raisers.”

Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said: "The indisputable fact is that until this group of Roadblock Republicans forced Speaker Boehner to walk away from a deal, America never came to the brink of a default and we never experienced a downgrade. This downgrade is the direct result of Roadblock Republicans."


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Ha, ha, ha.............
1 posted on 08/06/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s the spending, stupid!


2 posted on 08/06/2011 5:11:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Are we going to allow these liberal punks to villify us?Tea Party recession?


3 posted on 08/06/2011 5:12:59 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Sub-Driver
They have been reasonably successful at demonizing the Tea Party.

They have completely failed at convincing America that the Tea Party's position on the debt is wrong.

All but the liberal kook base knows we need to cut spending -- by a lot -- and very soon.

4 posted on 08/06/2011 5:13:30 PM PDT by comebacknewt ((on second thought, never mind, go away again Newt))
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberals are growing frustrated with President Obama’s soft response to the Tea Party after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday.

The cheek of these bastards!

5 posted on 08/06/2011 5:15:29 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Sub-Driver

If the liberals are pissed then we must be doing something right.


6 posted on 08/06/2011 5:18:11 PM PDT by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Coffee baggers.


7 posted on 08/06/2011 5:19:33 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: mylife

Yep!


8 posted on 08/06/2011 5:21:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday”

What a bold face lie, it wasn’t the “fractious negotiations over the debt limit” that lead to the downgrade.


9 posted on 08/06/2011 5:21:12 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party Hobbits.........remember the hobbits won the day)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who is holding the Economy hostage to high energy prices?


10 posted on 08/06/2011 5:22:00 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver
...after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday.

That's bull****! Does "The Hill" have any proof to back up this lie or is it just another commie lib allegation?

11 posted on 08/06/2011 5:22:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Teat Sucking Party.


12 posted on 08/06/2011 5:22:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver

“By accepting the threat of a national default as politically valid, Obama put himself at a major disadvantage in the talks,”

What a hack, it was Obama that said we would default.


13 posted on 08/06/2011 5:23:47 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party Hobbits.........remember the hobbits won the day)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Tea Party Recession”. Dear God, they’re insane.


14 posted on 08/06/2011 5:25:30 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Sub-Driver

[Liberals are growing frustrated with President Obama’s soft response to the Tea Party after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday.]

LIARS! That’s not what led to it. It is DC’s irresponsible runaway debt spending that led to it! The Republican House passed Cut, Cap, and Balance. It the Rat Senate hadn’t killed it and instead sent it to the President’s insisting that he sign it, this wouldn’t have happened!


15 posted on 08/06/2011 5:25:35 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Sub-Driver
"...It’s hard to see how we avoid a Tea-Party recession..."

Hm. Pretty easy. Just go straight to a liberal tax and spend depression.

16 posted on 08/06/2011 5:25:52 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberals are growing frustrated with President Obama’s soft response to the Tea Party after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday.

Yeah. They wanted members of the TEA Party rounded up and sent to concentration camps in the desert southwest.

17 posted on 08/06/2011 5:26:52 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Dems could have simply compromised sooner and avoided this mess.
18 posted on 08/06/2011 5:27:16 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Sub-Driver
Ruben said Obama should never have allowed Tea-Party lawmakers in the House to treat a debt-limit extension as a concession to Democrats given the nation’s entire economy depended on it.

There's a real problem when it's assumed that the economy depends on government spending.

19 posted on 08/06/2011 5:28:52 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Read our lips...No..new ..taxes!

Why didn’t the Kenyan lizard raise taxes when he had a chance. Huh?


20 posted on 08/06/2011 5:29:10 PM PDT by y6162
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To: toddausauras

[“Tea Party Recession”. Dear God, they’re insane.]

I just don’t think the liberal media is going to be able to successfully sell this crap sandwich to the American people.


21 posted on 08/06/2011 5:29:53 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Farmer Dean

Tea Party recession? Ping!

I’m so glad the tea party has had control over a legislative branch, and the presidency.

The media has now gone on attack to slime the tea party, they are afraid and will do everything to discredit the movement. It’s really just the same propaganda from the media, frame the story in the manor it should be told (by them, facts are irrelevant), then repeat it as much as possible. I used to scream at the FOX morning news reports due to this because of them framing the issue in a way that manipulates your thinking about a story, never the actual truth. Now I just see how my fellow Americans are being brainwashed with propaganda.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 5:30:33 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Moonman62

“There’s a real problem when it’s assumed that the economy depends on government spending.”

We now have more people getting Gub’ment checks, than we have paying for them. We crossed the Rubicon some months ago.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 5:30:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The president has been careful not to blame the Tea Party for the nation’s credit downgrade even though many Democrats and some independent political experts think he could make a strong case.

The Tea Party has been in Washington for a grand total of 7 months and they are at fault?? Ridiculous.

24 posted on 08/06/2011 5:31:21 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: Sub-Driver

Odd. Rep. Ryan’s proposal is the only one addressing our problems. Redistribution of wealth through massive tax increases is, however, the only move that our political establishment will consider. If the 2012 election takes place it won’t be free and fair.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 5:31:48 PM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: WeatherGuy

And they control nothing.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 5:31:53 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

“I just don’t think the liberal media is going to be able to successfully sell this crap sandwich to the American people.”

Obama GOT ELECTED...
Seeking responsibility in government Tea Party) is CRAZY, nutz! Whacko terrorism...
How can you possibly think that, now?


27 posted on 08/06/2011 5:33:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: JimSEA

They could have cut DoD in half or raised taxes to the moon any time they wanted for the two full years they had complete control of congress plus WH.

They did nothing. They did nothing because they knew it would have lost their seats.

What they want is all those things embedded in a package that the GOP votes for, so they are immunized from campaign ads about their tax addiction and desire to disarm America.

This needs to be pointed out every day.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 5:34:08 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Sub-Driver

Are these Ruling Classers even living on the same planet as the rest of us?


29 posted on 08/06/2011 5:35:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: foundedonpurpose

How many junior teaparty congress critters are there?
86?

Oh yeah! they OWN the gubermint!/s


30 posted on 08/06/2011 5:35:47 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: toddausauras

Thought...if you start calling it the Tea Party Recession haven’t you conceded it is no longer Bush’s Recession?

Until now, they were going to endlessly call it Bush’s fault.

This proves that events and times move on...other factors come into play. But Obama wants to claim that nothing he ever does or says is causing the problem. He is the exempted one.

Well, if it can change from Bush’s fault to the Tea Party’s fault, why should anyone buy that the only one’s fault it never became is Obama’s??

Hmmmmm???


31 posted on 08/06/2011 5:35:58 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Tea Party is made up of solid citizens who pay their bills on time, live within their means, save their money, raise their children with love and good values; who fight for what they believe, and are capable of thinking for themselves, are generous, courteous and a God loving people ,

That’s why the ludicrous Left hates us so much!


32 posted on 08/06/2011 5:36:13 PM PDT by Paperdoll (BUMP)
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To: mylife

Amen!


33 posted on 08/06/2011 5:37:52 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

This is juet a transition from Bush’s fault to Tea Party’s fault.


34 posted on 08/06/2011 5:38:48 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Sub-Driver
fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating

The "fractious negotiations" led only to an agreement. The agreement was bad and even it probably is not what caused the downgrade. The previous years of wild slinging of money here there and everywhere caused the downgrade. No agreement at this point, certainly not one that simply raised the limit smoothly and automatically would have atoned for the spending.

35 posted on 08/06/2011 5:39:53 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: foundedonpurpose

Stand bye.
Obama is going to use his billion dollar war chest to run with this horse crap 24/7


36 posted on 08/06/2011 5:40:44 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Sub-Driver

The left is boiling up to the point of declaring dissent to be a crime. How far is this going to go?


37 posted on 08/06/2011 5:43:51 PM PDT by Spok (A free man wants to be neither slave nor master.)
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To: All

While the spin machine is in full gear just where is Chucklenuts Obama? For that matter where are all of the politicians?

Oh! that’s right! They are on Summer Vacation at Martha’s Vinyard!


38 posted on 08/06/2011 5:50:37 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Spok

my guess would be - not too late in the evening of Nov. 6, 2012


39 posted on 08/06/2011 5:50:43 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: All
We have 8 Fighters!
40 posted on 08/06/2011 5:52:48 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Liberals are growing frustrated with President Obama’s soft response to the Tea Party after fractious negotiations over the debt limit led to the loss of nation’s AAA credit rating on Friday. “

Sorry, couldn’t get any farther than this. Negotiations led to the loss of the nation’s AAA rating. Aholes.


41 posted on 08/06/2011 5:54:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, it seems Obamajaad knew he was deep six into getting nothing passed at all because the Tea Party was having none of it. And he knows he lucky to get what he did.

Although I have no faith nor give any credit to the piece of fluff bill that allows $4.5 trillion more spending with a promise to cut future spending, which makes no sense at all to a sane person. Especially since your current spending is over $1 trillion more than your income.

The liberals sure are in a snit aren’t they. Wait until they get a load of 2012 and we send another 70-80 of their behinds to the unemployment line.


42 posted on 08/06/2011 5:55:50 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: toddausauras

They ARE. They are insane. They are scared crapless by the idea of conservative media but they slurp up the liberal agenda.

They live in a bubble and not one made of common sense.

The same liberals who, if they could get their socialists elected, would be calling them “heroes” are demonizing the people who are standing on principle on the right.

And they are calling us “terrorists”.

If we really want to think about our nation. Our DIVERSE and special nation...we need to do things that people won’t like. Halt immigration. Curb foreign aid. Make other nations feel our pain.


43 posted on 08/06/2011 5:56:57 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: mylife

Sad but true!

When a President is failing he usually goes to war to boost his #’s. He has already lost in Libya for the most part, funny how the media covers his ass with propaganda.

Scary as hell, China chasing our spy plane across international boarders. China needs the oil from the middle east, bad enough to fight for it.

Sorry I’m old school, 1+1=2. Long term our stupid government will get into a big war, to solve the problem. But the credit card is already maxed.

I moved out of Oregon a year ago because of this (the liberal minded drug culture didn’t help), back to the mid-west.

I really hope that I am wrong!


44 posted on 08/06/2011 6:07:59 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Be strong in truth!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The downgrade is the result of the debt not the deal.


45 posted on 08/06/2011 6:13:37 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: foundedonpurpose

I tried to go to WA state back in the late 80’s.
I’m kinda glad that didn’t work out.
The Liberal drugtard culture was already entrenched.

I can see a retreat to the Midwest in my future.
Lord knows it’s due for a resurgence.


46 posted on 08/06/2011 6:14:40 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: comebacknewt

they have been reasonably successful at demonizing us- primarily because the average GOP in power refuses to grow a pair and stand up to point out the criticism...


47 posted on 08/06/2011 6:14:46 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Farmer Dean

WTF? Just how did the Tea Party cause this depression?


48 posted on 08/06/2011 6:14:57 PM PDT by doc
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To: foundedonpurpose

BTW
Obama is going to meet major trouble in Ohio in 2012


49 posted on 08/06/2011 6:16:36 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Sub-Driver

Know what else Obama inherited from Bush......

A AAA RATING!


50 posted on 08/06/2011 6:16:54 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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