Skip to comments.London eyewitness: Tottenham unrest 'absolutely manic'
Posted on 08/06/2011 11:01:09 PM PDT by Kartographer
Police cars have been set on fire during a demonstration outside a police station in north London, according to witnesses.
Tottenham resident, Maria Robinson, says the disturbance is linked to the fatal shooting of a man during a Scotland Yard operation on Thursday.
Dozens of protesters have been gathering on the High Road in Tottenham.
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Another thread over here:
The British government is going to have to seriously get back to the business of law and order to fix this.
The man whom police shot dead is said to be drug dealer. But a “big man” in the local community, apparently.
Like is the U.S., multiculturalism is the Brits’ strength.
You know what’s so genius? They’re mad that police shot a member of their community, so what do they do? Riot and destroy the crap out of said community! Tottenham is such a...well, I don’t think the FR filter will allow that one.
Nowhere in the BBC account is there any indication that this was a racial incident. PC trumps reporting.
Now then NikkiB! Now then! You watch them words!
LOL ... it is easy to become politically incorrect on this topic.
” during a demonstration... says the disturbance....
Love that BBC, they don’t pull any punches, those guys. Call it like it is, except when it is a Jamaican-African riot. Man, why would anyone trust these turds to truly report what is going on?
I’m not saying things are wonderful for our Friends who are faced with rampant socialism, but we could take a lesson from them.
We are so afraid of being labeled with the “T” word, always feel we have to take the high road, and try to solve problems with people who have a mental illness (Liberals), that we we have forgotten how to stand up and FIGHT for what we believe in.
Think I am wrong?
Look where we are today.
“Watch them grammar!”
(c) John Ford
Good, welcome to the wages of forced multiculturalism/diversity and socialism.
That is what savages do.
I guess the message here is to stay away from Tottenham. I know I will.
Let the animals do what they will. (shrug)
The real problem only arises when money (tax money) is confiscated from OTHER people to pay for the cleanup. That is where the outrage should be. But then, Britain voters are ultimately the ones responsible for the government they have and for the “risk free” love and mothering of the socialist welfare state they gave themselves. You know - - the kind of socialist welfare state Ubama and the Democrats want for America.
How’s that working out for them?
Thanks for the link.
The host is not PC at all.
“....and I live by the river.”
Thank you for that.
Do I smell Islam? Tottenham has a large Muslim population.
Nope. This time it's home grown Africanus Britannicus.
too late, i think its over.
This came out of a police shooting. The cops were serving a warrant and the guy opened up on them. He was quickly dispatched by an officer’s MP-5.
I don’t think it’s over. The government might have to go farther to establish law than it would have had to, but I think it still can be done.
“Hows that working out for them?”
Not well, certainly.
The trouble with the English is they never see the writing on the wall, until they have their backs to it
A B Waring.
"When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun?"
As someone who had lived in London a long long time, these type of people have always had a huge chip on their shoulder, they have no regard for law, think the gun is their god and have no qualms in stabbing, shooting or killing you, life to them is very cheap. When are these govts going to work out that multiculturism does not work, they live in ghettoes and act like it and think they are better than everyone else and deserve everything for free.
Its time London and the UK imposed zero tolerence and either jail them, or deport them for good. You do the crime...zero rights.
Frankly the UK’s problem is lefties gone mad.
its the same story alll across the world with black youth, just a different area, same old story, hey we dont get our way, we riot, steal and wreck. Hurtful but its true.
Are there any prosperous, democratic, financially stable black countries? I guess the Bahamas could be considered so, but other than that, I don’t know of any. Why is that?
Some English have been very aware of this sort of thing for years:
Originally made up of politicized “soccer hooligans,” they are a tough, anti-PC, anti multi-culti, anti Islamic group.
They are NOT fascists or Nazis, simply patriots.
You mentioned the Bahamas; Barbados might be another. Wherever British law and customs took deep root, society progressed. India is the best example.
So sad, then, that the British, themselves, abandoned it.
The British did not “abandon” their laws and customs in those former ‘colonies/protectorates’.
Under the UN group think of post WWII - Britain was shamed into ‘liberating’ them. When the former ‘colonies’ began to dissolve into chaos - Britain was then obliged to accept the fleeing multitudes into a very small island nation.
The refugees were British citizens with all the benefits but none of the responsibilities.
The EDL are not heroes.
As you said, the EDL are ex-football hooligans (which is bad enough). Sorry, but they are not simple decent patriots, many DO have links to neo-nazi and far right racist/antisemitic groups. If you think they are non-racist patriots, you are very nieve.
Vanders and I and a few others here are British. We know what the EDL are better than you or anyone. And they ARE a group with questionable links and identity.
Just because they oppose the Muslims dosent make them heroes or right. You want to support us, then support the decent British person who opposes extremism and mass immigration but does it without hatred of skin colour.
Any advice for the US?
I know a couple of them personally and I am more interested in what they say about their group than what ultra-biased critics like the Anti-Fascists have to say.
The fact that they have put a wet blanket on some of Anjem Choudary’s planned activities is good enough for me.
Football hooligans? Formerly, yes. Some of them. And God bless them! The right needs more tough guys and fewer dilettantes on its side to match the strong-arm tactics of the left-—mainly union goons in this country.
I wish we had an analogous organization in the US. Confront the SEIU with a group like the EDL and you won’t get anywhere near the usual nastiness from them. Right now, they feel very safe in attacking blue-haired tea partiers (I’m one myself, only balding, not gray) and female candidates. If the TP’s had a contingent of EDL-type guardians, things might be different. Lefty thugs are known cowards. Beating up on wheelchair-bound flag salesmen is typical of their style.
Get a clue, please. The bad guys in the world today are Muslims and leftists, not patriots and lovers of Western culture like my hero Geert Wilders.
I sincerely hope that, in thus dismissing the near-unanimous (so far as I'm aware) opinion of British Freepers on this subject, you're not categorising us as 'ultra-biased critics like the Anti-Fascists'
I remember a line from the movie, “It Happened Here”, about what a potential Nazi occupation of Britain would be like, that line stuck with me:
“The appalling thing about fascism is that you’ve got to use fascist methods to get rid of it. “
I find that statement to be very true, and if Islamo-Fascism is allowed to take hold, it will take extreme measures to get rid of it.
Get a clue?.
I am British, born and bred.
I am ex-armed forces.
I am a conservative opposed to mass immigration, political correctness and extremism.
I have lived and worked all over the UK.
I follow passionately my own nation’s politics ans current affairs.
And most importantly, I have known people on the far right, from the NF in the 1980’s to the EDL now. Think you are the only one?.
The fact that you welcome that they were/are football hooligans is symptomatic of your romantic notions: you have never clearly been in the middle of hooligans on the rampage, a group who then and now have no qualms about kicking in the heads of any innocent civilians in their midst, irrespective of what hooligan group they are. English national hooligans, Manchester United hooligans, Chelsea, Welsh, minor club hooligans, they all behave in the same way. I assume you know that as well as fighting each other, hooligans will terrorise the public.
I know. I have been there: caught in the middle of it AND seen it close up from safety. So I find your romantic notion of a football hooligan laughable and pathetic. If you lived in Britain, and have seen the damage and violence in general caused by football hooligans over the last 40 years, you’d have an even less starry-eyed notion.
The fact that you bash me and other British freepers (all of whom are conservative, anti-islamic extremism, anti-mass immigration, pro-american and anti-leftist) as apologists when we criticise the EDL is equally arrogant. Did you even think for a second that we, as people who are actually British and see the EDL up close, might be right, might have a better grasp of what they actually are?.
You and I agree 100% that Islamic terrorism is the biggest threat today. You and I agree that leftist violence is a major threat and gets condoned and apologised for. BUT that ipso facto dosent make the EDL, or BNP, or Combat 18 et al heroes or right.
The EDL ARE a group with racist and anti-semitic links, members and background. You may not want to hear that, the guys you know may deny it, but the actual facts when you scratch the surface are there...
Ever seen how the average Bahamian lives, away from the cruise ship docks? It's not pretty.
The EDL looks like it’s doing the hard work the rest of the “conservatives” in England won’t do.
I know the BNP are bad, are there links between them and the EDL?
You are speaking hatefully about some good friends of mine. People I seriously doubt you know or care about but happen to be honorable men whom I respect.
You make a lot of assumptions about people you don’t know and give no one the benefit of the doubt. That’s why I say “get a clue.”
Riots? For all you know, I might have participated in a few during my time and had my head clubbed a time or two. Those EDL boys are FORMER hooligans who have learned to channel their energies.
If the people in the UK don’t want some of those chaps and they want to re-locate, I’d be happy to sponsor a couple. They might provide the missing ingredient on the US right.
The left always has a crowd of burly thugs join in their actions. What do we have? Largely grandparents who yell loudly but limp their way to and from a meeting.
And if you think physical altercations aren’t in the future of American politics, then who is being naive?
And if you generalize and pass judgment like that in public, you will attract some wicked attention sooner or later.
I’m preaching self-defense. The lefties practice aggression.
At least here we have the Tea Party, made up of average citizens who are willing to take the heat, and are getting results as evidenced by the November elections and the left’s fear and hatred of us. Where is your Tea Party? Where are your “conservative” citizens willing to take a stand? Until you have a movement like that, the EDL will flourish. Is the average Brit so afraid of being labeled a “racist” that they’ll hide in their homes instead of working for change?
I second your view that the romantic notion of hooliganism is pathetic. Speaking as someone who ended up in the hospital due to EDL thugs, there is nothing good or admirable about them.
That was scotsman who was attacking hooligans.
I wasn’t defending hooligans, I was defending former hooligans who have organized politically.
Who say you were injured by EDL members. Late me inquire, who provoked that incident? I’ll bet militant muzzies were at the bottom of it.
We don’t have “hooligans” over here but the tea paries I’ve attended could have used a security detachment of tough-looking young men. The opposition has no compunction about doing it and they always end up being the provocateurs and aggressors.
I see no way that the next 15 months will avoid numerous physical left-right confrontations. I hate giving the other side the physical advantage.