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Perry offers praise, prayer but little on politics
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 6, 2011 | Joe Holley

Posted on 08/07/2011 3:59:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

...The nation's longest-serving governor noted that this "loving and personal God desires not a show of religion but a deep connection with our innermost being. … His agenda is not a political agenda. His agenda is a salvation agenda."

God, he said, is wise enough not to be affiliated with any political party.

[Rick] Perry read three passages of Scripture: from Joel 2, Isaiah 40 ("They'll soar on wings like eagles"), and Ephesians 3. He closed his morning remarks with a prayer.

"Father, our heart breaks for America," Perry prayed. "We see discord at home, we see fear in the marketplace, we see anger in the halls of government. And as a nation, we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us. And for that we cry out for your forgiveness."

Perry also prayed for President Barack Obama, "that you would impart your wisdom upon him, that you would guard his family."

.......Barry W. Lynn, an ordained United Church of Christ minister and executive director of Citizens United for Separation of Church and State, was inside the stadium. He said he believed Perry was trying to "out-Jesus" Michelle Bachmann and Newt Gingrich, two declared candidates who are making overtures to the religious right.

"Governor Perry achieved his goal today," Lynn said. "He drove almost every major religious right leader and group into his corral......"

........Except for the participation of prominent pastors and politicians - including Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, who read the Beatitudes - the seven-hour event resembled nothing more than a boisterous Sunday-morning worship service at evangelical churches across the nation. The prayers were long and heartfelt, the remarks earnest, and the music - gospel and Christian rock - inspired rapturous frenzies of arm-waving, swaying and singing along.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: faith; forgiveness; healing; perry; prayer
It's being reported that beyond the 30,000 who attended in person, more than 1,100 churches signed up to simulcast the event in cities and communities across the country and that people in Indonesia, India and Brazil were among the participants.

The Response is getting a lot of coverage in the media. Drudge has The Response story - top, middle column, with Obama's Hip Hop White House birthday bash story linked underneath.

1 posted on 08/07/2011 3:59:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Governor Perry achieved his goal today," Lynn said.
"He drove almost every major religious right leader
and group into his corral......"

drove into his corral? Sounds like his Gardasil "round ups"
for Merck and his Chief-of-Staff.

2 posted on 08/07/2011 4:07:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, but isn’t it true that 23 years ago he was a typical Texas Democrat and supported algore?

So, nothing else matters, right?

And I mean..............nothing!

/sarc


3 posted on 08/07/2011 4:11:31 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Diogenesis; All

Perry, shown here with [Speaker Gib] Lewis in the background, was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1984. He came to be known as one of the "Pit Bulls," members who sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee and bitterly fought spending increases. - PHOTO: The Texas Tribune/Courtesy of Texas State Library and Archives Commission
4 posted on 08/07/2011 4:14:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis

Could you please refrain from your clever comments and speak plain english, so us plain folk can understand what you are saying? And by the way, I am a 35 year geologist, so if you speak geoloeze i will understand.


5 posted on 08/07/2011 4:16:00 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Diogenesis

Barry Lynn?

The hate-filled hero of the anti-religious, religious Left, is some kinda quote worthy to play off of, isn’t he now?

HuffPo would swear by it, though.


6 posted on 08/07/2011 4:18:26 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Perry offers praise, prayer but little on politics”

This simply doesn’t jive. Perry IS politics. Just the fact that he was there is politics. Ain’t nothing wrong with praying, but this? At least be honest about it.
It was a super-duper political prayer rally. And anyone who says is wasn’t is lying through their teeth.


7 posted on 08/07/2011 4:20:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry, if nominated, will turn the 2012 election into a referendum on Obama’s economic policies... and Obama’s economic results.


8 posted on 08/07/2011 4:21:52 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: richardtavor; Diogenesis

Let me translate it for you into plain English:

“I hate Rick Perry.”

All else is indulgent fluff.


9 posted on 08/07/2011 4:23:30 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: samtheman; txrangerette; All
The Rick Perry I Know (Perry keeps his boot on his opponent's neck until.....) ....."He is an extremely astute politician with a keen sense of where voters are, and he has great instincts on message. Perry has ruthless discipline and communication. They say in politics, “Don’t let your boot off an opponent’s neck till Election Day.” Perry doesn’t take his boot off till a year after the votes have been counted and the opponent has faded into oblivion.".....
10 posted on 08/07/2011 4:27:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MestaMachine

You, and the hate-filled “religious” Left, agree.

You coulda been standing outside with the despicable Barry Lynn and his crew.

If you’re in politics, ya gotta shutup about your Christian beliefs.

Just shut up.

That’s the message.


11 posted on 08/07/2011 4:30:12 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: richardtavor

Hi Rich, how about:

When it comes to OPEN BORDERS by Perry or
the mandate of drugs by Gov. Executive Order (PerryCARE)
take NOTHING for granite.


12 posted on 08/07/2011 4:32:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wasn’t all that big on this day of praise thing but he’s doing it early, before he declares.


13 posted on 08/07/2011 4:36:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: txrangerette

When I was young, I was a democrat. The democratic party has been pushed so far left it is not the same party as when I was young. I have become conservative in my old age and much wiser. Happens to lots of people.


14 posted on 08/07/2011 4:40:27 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: MestaMachine
This simply doesn’t jive. Perry IS politics. Just the fact that he was there is politics. Ain’t nothing wrong with praying, but this? At least be honest about it. It was a super-duper political prayer rally. And anyone who says is wasn’t is lying through their teeth.

Amazing - why do you detest the man? A politician says he wants to hold a prayer rally, sticks to prayer, and gets trashed for it. Haley Barbour came to a Promise Keepers function in Mississippi and opened the meeting with some prayer and encouragement - never mentioned politics, but I suppose you would think he only allowed the Promise Keepers to meet in his State so he could make use of them.

15 posted on 08/07/2011 4:50:02 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You are correct.

Michele Bachmann came from a Democrat family. In Minnesota, what would you expect? In Texas, Rick Perry, who is no youngster, dates back to the days when in politics you were a Democrat in order to get anywhere, and you could be anything on the spectrum from left to right to in-between.

BTW, I love Sarah Palin and could proudly support her. Or Michele. Or Herman Cain. Or Rick Perry.


16 posted on 08/07/2011 4:52:31 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I was a Democrat because my father was a Democrat. I didn’t leave the party, the party left me. Now it is happening with the Republicans and I may change again-—to a third party? If one comes along that I like better-—yes.

Right now I see a Republican party with a lot of Democrats (RINO’s) running it.

This country needs term limits, and we need them bad. Older politicians are more interested in getting re-elected than in what is good for America.


17 posted on 08/07/2011 4:52:42 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Diogenesis

That total amnesty declared by Reagan was real boffo, too, I hear.


18 posted on 08/07/2011 4:54:13 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Venturer

I agree with everything you said, especially about term limits. But it will never happen. I no longer say I am a republican. I am a conservative and pray we will get a conservative nominated.


19 posted on 08/07/2011 5:04:05 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Venturer

Your points against RINOS are valid.

The answer is a Republican party made up of fewer and fewer of them.

That’s where we should focus our efforts.

We need a better definition of RINO.

Too many are ready to destroy any potential candidate for one or two errors in judgement at any time in their entire lives.

If they were once a Democrat that automatically makes them a RINO Republican now, in the eyes of too many. No, Reagan was once a Democrat. Michele Bachmann came from a Democrat family and supported Carter when she was a college student.


20 posted on 08/07/2011 5:07:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: MestaMachine
It was a super-duper political prayer rally. And anyone who says is wasn’t is lying through their teeth.

You were there?...or repeating media reports?

21 posted on 08/07/2011 5:15:32 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: txrangerette

Atypical Texas Democrat in the eighties was pretty conservative compared to the rest of the country...remember Reagan and John Connelly were also ex dems. RP is not the perfect conservative by any means but he is far better than Mitt Romney,Huntsman,Pallenty ect.


22 posted on 08/07/2011 5:43:14 AM PDT by ontap
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To: richardtavor

Are you some kind of idiot? What’s not to understand about what he posted?


23 posted on 08/07/2011 5:48:00 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Diogenesis
Prayer, praise, asking God's help for our nation I understand.....We do that here as well.

Rick Perry leading it?......it has not been that many years since I wholeheartedly believed another Texan (running for President) was devotedly for Christ....

...only to have my heart broken by his deception.

God can't be fooled....only us mortals.

24 posted on 08/07/2011 5:49:56 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: txrangerette; Diogenesis

I understood him perfectly.


25 posted on 08/07/2011 5:51:08 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: txrangerette
No, the message from you is loud and clear....

...If we disagree with Perry or his message....we are considered by you (and others) as hate filled.

26 posted on 08/07/2011 5:52:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: txrangerette
The years pass.....but the talking points remain the same...

..when some of you push hard for your candidate and some of us push back....your grab for the golden ring of 'Reagan wasn't perfect either, blah blah'....

27 posted on 08/07/2011 5:55:05 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: krb

Nice way to respond to a fellow FReeper.

I don’t know why I’d think people would be civil to each other around here.


28 posted on 08/07/2011 6:10:49 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou

Just people coming to a thread about faith and prayer to change the positive tone. That’s about the size of it.


29 posted on 08/07/2011 6:22:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette; trebb; lonestar

txrangerette
“You, and the hate-filled “religious” Left, agree.”

“You coulda been standing outside with the despicable Barry Lynn and his crew.”

You know what? I am getting pretty sick of you putting words in my mouth and insulting me for stating facts. Rick Perry is a POLITICIAN! You don’t stop being Rick Perry, POLITICIAN no matter what forum you appear in. It’s like saying you are only half pregnant. You just cannot separate the two. THAT is the point, the ONLY point that I made. I didn’t even criticize him for it. But don’t tell me it wasn’t political because you are only lying to yourself. Stop with the insults. I am the least of Perry’s worries.

trebb
“Amazing - why do you detest the man?”

And you decided that all by yourself, did ya? In fact, I admire that he stood up for those values he espouses, and didn’t let anyone back him down.

lonestar
“You were there?...or repeating media reports?”

I didn’t read the media reports, lonestar. I have a mind of my own. And I wasn’t criticizing Perry’s religion nor his stance. All I am saying is to be honest. It was a religious political rally and that is what it was no matter what glasses you are seeing through...and you make it even more obvious by citing the POLITICAL opposition to it.
You guys need to grow a hide.


30 posted on 08/07/2011 6:27:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I wish it were....that is what this nation needs.

..but to me, it is obvious this is a thread about Rick Perry for President

.. it becomes political, with name calling & insults....

...and there you have our nation in a microcosm

31 posted on 08/07/2011 6:29:51 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: MestaMachine
I have a mind of my own.

And apparently you think you have an ability to read the minds of others.

For gosh sakes, name somebody who is running for POTUS who ISN'T a POLITICIAN!

Rationalization out the window! Anybody who wants to be POTUS is a POLITICIAN!

32 posted on 08/07/2011 6:50:44 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

No kidding! Point made. Every headline, every radio and TV news that I am just now looking at is calling this “GOVERNOR PERRY’S PRAYER RALLY.”
Hello?


33 posted on 08/07/2011 6:57:43 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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If Sarah doesn’t run, I’d vote for Perry.


34 posted on 08/07/2011 7:00:12 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: lonestar

AND, BTW, I didn’t say it was a bad thing. In fact, yesterday, on “The Response, Prayers for a Nation in Crisis” thread, I posted a prayer of my own. Don’t judge me. You don’t know me well enough to judge me.


35 posted on 08/07/2011 7:00:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine

At least you admit you are swayed by the headlines!


36 posted on 08/07/2011 7:06:06 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

NO I WASN’T. I started posting at 5 AM. I hadn’t even SEEN the headlines until a few minutes ago. Knock it off,
If it was Sarah Palin, I would have said exactly the same thing, or bachmann, or any other politician.


37 posted on 08/07/2011 7:16:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Venturer
I was a Democrat because my father was a Democrat. I didn’t leave the party, the party left me.

Exactly the same words I use. I may not have been a strong Dem, the first President I voted for was Eisenhower. After about 20 years the Dems left me and I remained a conservative independent. In 2010 I registered Rep because there were 2-3 candidates in the primary I wanted to vote for.

38 posted on 08/07/2011 7:25:06 AM PDT by cotton
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To: krb

Just getting him to say it. By the way, you are an idiot for reacting in such a way.


39 posted on 08/07/2011 7:27:36 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: MestaMachine

Aren’t we sensitive! We can dish it out but we can’t take it! /s


40 posted on 08/07/2011 8:51:48 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

That is just silly. But it’s Sunday. I realize you must be bored. I can’t play anymore right now though. Catch you later.


41 posted on 08/07/2011 8:56:33 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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