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The Rick Perry I Know
National Journal ^ | August 5, 2011 | Matthew Dowd

Posted on 08/07/2011 4:24:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

In 1986, I was running the Texas Democratic Party primary, and in walked an attractive rancher who submitted his filing to run as a Democrat for state representative for a district in rural West Texas. That rancher is now the state’s Republican governor, Rick Perry. I have known him for 25 years off and on, and I know his staff very well. And Perry is about to become a dominant force in the Republican nomination process for president.

Nearly a year ago, I wrote a column for National Journal saying that we need to watch out for Perry, that he would make a formidable presidential candidate, even though he had expressed no interest at the time in running. But the political environment and the Republican field made me think that Perry could have a legitimate shot.

Many people have asked me what kind of candidate he will be, or how I think his campaign will do if he makes the leap and enters the race.

Having observed and known the governor, both as a Democrat and as a Republican, through 13 election cycles, I offer a primer on Perry in five key points:

1. He is an extremely astute politician with a keen sense of where voters are, and he has great instincts on message. Perry has ruthless discipline and communication. They say in politics, “Don’t let your boot off an opponent’s neck till Election Day.” Perry doesn’t take his boot off till a year after the votes have been counted and the opponent has faded into oblivion. He is actually a better campaigner than George W. Bush (Perry’s predecessor as Texas governor) was when he first entered the national scene.

2. Perry has surrounded himself with a very loyal staff. His aides believe in him, and he in them. He is involved in campaign decisions, but he delegates well and doesn't stop being loyal because a mistake might be made. This is a huge advantage in the ebb and flow of presidential campaigns.

3. His statements related to possible Texas secession actually helped him in his recent race in 2010, and will help him in a national campaign in the Republican primaries and caucuses. In an environment where Republican voters despise the federal government, anti-Washington rhetoric is music to their ears. Conversely, this talk will hurt him in a general-election race. Moderate voters in the Midwest will see it as off-putting.

4. Although he has run many times for both district and statewide office in Texas, Perry has never been fully vetted by the media. He underwent some scrutiny in his races for governor, but he has never endured the full-court press that happens in a presidential race. What the media discovers will not be as important as how he and the campaign handle the intense spotlight for the first time. Perry and some of his staffers are known to have thin skins. They will need to grow calluses if they are to succeed in the show.

5. Perry has never lost a race. While many immediately list this as a positive (and it is laudable and suggests huge talent), losing at some point in your career makes you better when the inevitable problems hit. I have learned more from my losses in life and politics than from my victories. It’s the losses that really cause self-reflection and growth. President Obama and former Presidents Bush (father and son), Clinton, Reagan, and Nixon learned enormous amounts from setbacks in their political careers, and those losses eventually helped them win the White House. We know Perry can win. The real question is: Can he suffer defeat and rise to the next battle?

It’s anyone’s guess how Perry will do if he enters the race for president. So far, he has risen in the polls and been applauded more and more by Republican activists while he stays on the sideline. So it’s hard not to wonder whether he’s better as an abstract proposition than as an actual candidate. We shall soon find out. My guess is that Perry’s trajectory will go in one of two opposing directions: He will march consistently and strongly and become the nominee, or he will crash in a spectacular manner. I don’t see any middle ground. Either way, this is going to be great theater. And interestingly, looking ahead to a possible run against President Obama, the last really close general-election race Perry had was in 1998 for lieutenant governor, and the media strategist for his Democratic opponent, John Sharp, was a familiar name--David Axelrod.


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Perry, shown here with [Speaker Gib] Lewis in the background, was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1984. He came to be known as one of the "Pit Bulls," members who sat in the lower pit of the House Appropriations Committee and bitterly fought spending increases. - PHOTO: The Texas Tribune/Courtesy of Texas State Library and Archives Commission
1 posted on 08/07/2011 4:24:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“....and bitterly fought spending increases.”

Sounds like just what we need!


2 posted on 08/07/2011 4:30:21 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita
Videos:

CBN -- 3 minute video interview in governor’s office: Perry: Free Private Sector Key to Economy

Talking heads discuss: Gov. Perry takes on college education

Texas Governor Rick Perry - Tax Day Tea Party 2009 in Arlington, Texas

Texas Gov. Rick Perry Speaks to Republican Leadership Conference - June 18, 2011

CBN one minute video in governor’s office: talking about states’ laboratories trying new things – ie Romneycare shot Takes subtle shot at Romneycare

Perry's July 29, 2011 Colorado speech on YouTube:Texas Gov. Rick Perry: "Let Us Restore the Nation's Principles - If We Don't, Who Will?"

CNN – King interview with Erick Erickson and Mimi Swartz : Could Rick Perry Shake up GOP WH Race?

3 posted on 08/07/2011 4:39:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SumProVita

I don’t klnow much about Perry. I cannot reccommend him to othes. I understand he isn’t perfect. He also is not a Muslim , does not support Muslims and is not out to destroy the economy of our country so he can replace it with socialism.

These points alone make him better than what we have.


4 posted on 08/07/2011 4:39:20 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“...the last really close general-election race Perry had was in 1998 for lieutenant governor, and the media strategist for his Democratic opponent, John Sharp, was a familiar name—David Axelrod.”

Ruh roh. this was a *really close* race? That means that ax knows Perry’s hotbuttons. And he will darn sure push them. Every one of them.
I ain’t liking the hint that he is vindictive too much either. Enemies list keeps popping into my head.
Still gathering info, but to be honest, the more I learn, I am liking Perry a little less as time passes. Even the Texans on this board are divided about him, some of whom I respect very much.



5 posted on 08/07/2011 4:41:03 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: SumProVita

“bitterly fought spending increases”

Yeah, but he was a Democrat at the time. Forget what he did...he was a Democrat and supported algore in ‘88.

Nothing else matters.

/sarc

One of the very few Democrats I ever admired was Ralph Hall, of Rockwall TX. As a Democrat, he had the most conservative voting record on all issues in the House of Repesentatives. Eventually he switched to Republican because he could no longer serve under the Left Wingers of DC. He still serves, and recently voted against the Debt Ceiling bill.

Anyone remember Zell Miller?

Good ol’ Zell...

Reagan??

Now there’s a name...


6 posted on 08/07/2011 4:43:13 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bookmark


7 posted on 08/07/2011 4:43:42 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: MestaMachine

I wouldn’t pay too much mind to Matthew Dowd.

But that’s just me...


8 posted on 08/07/2011 4:45:10 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: SumProVita
You are as devoted to Gov Perry as 2ndVet is to Gov Palin...

and both are fine candidates—all things considered of course.

I especially admire RP’s recent open display of Christian passion—nothing more totally irks the Godless Left than that—though I'm not saying that is why he held the prayer meet—but it don't hurt to irk the Left if you wanna get on the good side of the Tea Party.

If only he didn't sound SO MUCH like George W Bush.Granted,it is shallow to judge somebody by their way of speaking—and I don't—I'm just saying that to the dumb masses,of which the hopelessly feckless “independents” hold sway—he is Bush3 and I'm afraid unelectable on a national stage.
A Texas accent is a fine Southern accent and nothing to be ashamed of—but there it is.

9 posted on 08/07/2011 4:46:51 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: MestaMachine

We can’t afford another wishy washy open border president.

That alone negates any claims of fiscal responsibility.


10 posted on 08/07/2011 4:47:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Happy Rain

Oops,I meant this post for Cicinnatus Wife.

Sorry.


11 posted on 08/07/2011 4:48:19 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: Venturer

Ummmm:

http://www.vpr.net/npr/131048009/
The governor of this swiftly changing state works to take a nuanced approach to a minority group that’s been very much at the center of the news. “We have a huge Muslim community in the state of Texas,” he says, and many of these Muslims are “great businessmen and women, very good supporters of mine. ... We are an incredibly diverse state. I sell it as part of our strength.”

Perry was asked if he was comfortable with the way that some people talk about the problem with terrorism — their concern to say that the real problem is “Muslims” or “Muslim countries.”

“The radicalization of Islam is a great concern,” Perry said. “Islam of and by itself is one of the great religions, along with Christianity and Judaism.” He recalled meeting one of the Democratic candidates for Texas governor in the recent election. “He’s a Palestinian. And he and I were having a conversation about Ground Zero. How do you deal with this? He said, well, it’s pretty easy. He said, ‘Build a synagogue, a temple, and a church there. And bring these people together.’”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2742014/posts
Rick Perry, the Mosque and his agreement with Muslims
The Ismali ^

Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:32:04 AM by BereanBrain

Austin, Texas, 30 October 2009 — At the invitation of Texas State Governor Rick Perry, Mawlana Hazar Imam traveled to Austin yesterday to sign an Agreement of Cooperation between the State of Texas and the Ismaili Imamat. During the visit, Hazar Imam and Governor Perry also held talks at the State Capitol on a range of issues of mutual interest

Describing the importance of the agreement, Governor Perry explained that “traditional Western education speaks little of the influence of Muslim scientists, scholars, throughout history, and for that matter the cultural treasures that stand today in testament to their wisdom.”


12 posted on 08/07/2011 4:52:45 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: MestaMachine
I'm inherently distrustful of any former Democrat who changed parties. 1986, when the author mentions seeing Perry applying for a Democrat position, was the middle of Reagan's eight year presidency.

Anyone who watched 5 years of President Reagan's remarkable American revival based upon purely and successfully conservative precepts, and still wanted to run as a Democrat... seems to have possibly been severely principles-challenged... just sayin.

What caused him to change party? Was it a political calculation, or a heart change? Like I said, absent any additional data, just the fact that he was ever a Democrat makes me leery of him. Factor in that he's not even close to being the most successful conservative Governor as a current potential GOP candidate in 2012, and I really don't see the point.

We can do alot better. IMHO.

13 posted on 08/07/2011 4:57:47 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Our little pit bull says 'Taste my nightstick!',,, A barracuda in a skin-tight skirt.")
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To: Venturer

He is also an American and can prove it....He doesn’t have some kind of contrived, made up, bogus BC.


14 posted on 08/07/2011 5:00:08 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Gargantua

Pro-illegals?
Pro-Muzzies?

FAAGEDDABAATIT!!


15 posted on 08/07/2011 5:00:35 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm nearly 62 years old and I've never had the opportunity to vote for a perfect candidate. Considering who's occupying the oval office right now I would vote for a stale donut to replace him.

I'm sure three enough wrong with Perry to disqualify him for many people but he was born in this country, doesn't seem to be actively trying to destroy it and understands that all of the amendments to the Constitution count.

Hes good enough for me

16 posted on 08/07/2011 5:01:03 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He was actually better looking—and stunningly so—in his middle years than as a young man or now, into his 60’s.


17 posted on 08/07/2011 5:01:35 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MestaMachine
"“...the last really close general-election race Perry had was in 1998 for lieutenant governor, and the media strategist for his Democratic opponent, John Sharp, was a familiar name—David Axelrod.”"

Ruh roh. this was a *really close* race? That means that ax knows Perry’s hotbuttons. And he will darn sure push them. Every one of them.

Interesting race that was. Rove and Bush were telling Perry and his campaign to go easy on Sharp in his campaign for Lt. Gov so Dubya could get Dem votes in his campaign for Gov., but Perry knew better.

That election caused a rift with Sharp, who had been a close friend of Perry's since their days at A&M but they've patched things up since then (in a gun shop, no less) and have worked together. Texas A&M Years Launched Perry — and a Rivalry

18 posted on 08/07/2011 5:02:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: muir_redwoods

It will be good when the field is set and we can get on with it!!!


19 posted on 08/07/2011 5:03:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Happy Rain

“You are as devoted to Gov Perry...”

I’m not *devoted* to Rick Perry. I *currently* see him as an excellent candidate who has the correct fiscal policies and who can slam-dunk a victory against Obama.


20 posted on 08/07/2011 5:07:14 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I do not like Perry.

But he would be better than that limp guy the republicans rolled out to run.


21 posted on 08/07/2011 5:07:17 AM PDT by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: Gargantua
I'm inherently distrustful of any former Democrat who changed parties.

I'm not. Reagan, himself was a former democrat. So was big John Connally.

22 posted on 08/07/2011 5:07:31 AM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: Flintlock

Texas under Perry: He’s a RINO, don’t be fooled!

• $13.4B dollars in debt.

• 51st in issuing High School diplomas (even behind Puerto Rico).

• Texas is #49 in verbal SAT scores in the nation (493) and #46 in average math SAT scores (502).

• The Lone Star State ranked third in the nation between 2000 and last year in receipt of federal dollars, raking in aid and contracts worth more than $1.2 trillion.

In March Perry rejected $555 million in federal stimulus money that would have expanded unemployment benefits for Texans. Perry argued at the time that accepting the stimulus dollars would force the state to expand eligibility to include thousands of low-wage workers — including part-time employees like single mothers, college students and senior citizens — which Perry bemoaned would burden tax payers with “higher taxes and expanded obligations.” When explaining the decision, Perry told Fox News, “this was pretty simple for us.”

But now Perry is reversing his decision. Texas has asked the federal government for a $170 million loan to ensure the state is able to continue paying out unemployment benefits:

Texas is now asking the federal government for a $170 million loan so that benefits keep getting paid.

Texas is expected to request $650 million, roughly $100 million more than Perry initially rejected. At a “tea party protest” in April, Perry trumpeted his decision to reject stimulus dollars from the Obama administration. “I believe the federal government has become oppressive,” he said, adding that he might even consider seceding from the Union.

Now he has turned that all around. He’ll turn even further to the left if he happens to win the nomination.


23 posted on 08/07/2011 5:07:38 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: txrangerette; SumProVita; All
Yeah, but he was a Democrat at the time. Forget what he did...he was a Democrat and supported algore in ‘88.

That was the Democratic Party primary that Michael Dukakus went on to win.

Gore his wife Tipper led the charge on putting warning labels on records back in the 1980s. In fact, Gore had an 84% pro-life record back in the 1980s: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Al_Gore According to ontheissues.org -- Gore had an 84% anti-abortion voting record and voted pro-life 27 times. Evolving Gore

24 posted on 08/07/2011 5:08:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: SumProVita

He was for it before the was against it, before he was against it he was for it. How is that instate tuition for illegals, thing working out. Amnesty lite, next step is we educated them so we cannot throw them out now.


25 posted on 08/07/2011 5:09:28 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: conservaterian
Texas under Perry: He’s a RINO, don’t be fooled!

Links?

26 posted on 08/07/2011 5:09:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Flintlock; Venturer; Gargantua

Now see? Venturers post made me curious so I went out and looked...just a little. I ain’t liking THIS either.

http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2008/04/texas-gov-rick-perry-to-host-muslim-sects-spiritual-leader-aga-khan/
Texas Gov. Rick Perry to host Muslim sect’s spiritual leader Aga Khan

Texas Gov. Rick Perry plans to host a private dinner followed by fireworks near Austin on Saturday to honor the Aga Khan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad celebrating his 50th year as the spiritual leader of a Muslim sect.

Earlier in the day, the leaders are expected to be on hand as the University of Texas signs an agreement with Aga Khan University, which has campuses in Pakistan and other countries, fostering student and teacher exchanges between the institutions.

Khan, a wealthy, Harvard-educated businessman and philanthropist, leads the Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims, an offshoot of the Shiite branch of Islam, claiming 12 million to 16 million believers in 25 countries including tens of thousands in Texas.

Perry, 58, and Khan, 71, struck up an improbable friendship nearly a decade ago, resulting in a UT program exposing schoolteachers to Muslim beliefs and culture.

The jet-setting Khan grew up in Kenya and lives in France and owns hundreds of race horses. Perry was born and raised in West Texas before earning a degree at Texas A&M University.

In 2000, Perry, then lieutenant governor, visited the Aga Khan in Paris during a family trip to Europe.

Two years later, Perry and the Aga Khan visited during the opening of the Ismaili Jamatkhana and Center built in Sugar Land near Houston and at an Austin dinner hosted by Perry.

The Aga Khan Development Network subsequently funded the UT program, which has introduced 80 Texas schoolteachers to Muslim history and culture; 15 teachers have toured the Middle East, Europe and Asia.

In 2006, Perry visited a Pakistan relief center financed by the network. And last year, Perry looked at an unfinished Ismaili center in Dubai that a travel mate described as an architectural and cultural wonder that the Aga Khan is expected to replicate, to a degree, in Houston.

Eric Bearse, an outside adviser to Perry, said Saturday’s “golden jubilee” event at the Texas Disposal Systems Exotic Game Ranch and Pavilion in Buda is “an opportunity for His Highness to be in the presence of a vibrant Ismaili community in Texas as well as to be with his friend, the governor.”

Perry and his wife, Anita, will dine with the religious leader at a downtown hotel tonight.

Shahed Amanullah of Austin, editor-in-chief of altmuslim.com, said the Aga Khan has a solid reputation among Muslims because of his good works, partly through the development network. The network spends $350 million a year on economic, social and cultural projects concentrated in South Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

“There are a lot of non-Ismaili Muslims around the world who wish they had a leader that is as organized and as visionary,” Amanullah said

Perry, who is a member of a Methodist church, and the Aga Khan emphasize the need for the Western world to understand Eastern values and vice versa. After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Aga Khan said differences between Muslim-dominated countries and the Christian-dominant West don’t reflect the clash of civilizations so much as clashes of ignorance.

Neither Perry’s office nor members of the Ismaili community said who is paying for Saturday’s invitation-only party nor did they divulge who will attend it. Perry spokesman Robert Black said it would not be financed by the state or from economic development funds.

About 20,000 to 30,000 people are expected to hear the Aga Khan on Sunday in San Antonio.



27 posted on 08/07/2011 5:09:56 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: 9YearLurker

Greg Stillson is alive and well and living in Texas.


28 posted on 08/07/2011 5:10:20 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Rider on the Rain

And so was Phil Gramm and many more.


29 posted on 08/07/2011 5:10:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

Methinks thou doth exaggerate.


30 posted on 08/07/2011 5:10:55 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: MestaMachine
June 29, 2011 - Texas Gov. Perry urges US attorney general to act against pro-Palestinian protestors “AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Gov. Rick Perry is urging the U.S. attorney general to take action against Americans who take part in a pro-Palestinian protest.

The governor wrote in a letter Wednesday that he was concerned about two U.S.-flagged ships that plan to challenge the Israeli naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. He urged U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to take legal steps to stop Americans from taking part in the attempt to reach Gaza, or to prosecute them if they do….”

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....Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, “According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israel’s Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.”

He continued, “The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace,” as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations.

Perry said at least two of the ships are registered in Delaware, including one named “The Audacity of Hope,” which was the title of President Barack Obama’s second book.

The letter concludes, “I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts.” Source

…………"David Ainsman really began to get worried about President Barack Obama’s standing with his fellow Jewish Democrats when a recent dinner with his wife and two other couples — all Obama voters in 2008 — nearly turned into a screaming match.

Ainsman, a prominent Democratic lawyer and Pittsburgh Jewish community leader, was trying to explain that Obama had just been offering Israel a bit of “tough love” in his May 19 speech on the Arab Spring. His friends disagreed — to say the least.

[snip]

“When Obama was running, there was a lot of concern among the guys in my group at shul, who are all late-30s to mid-40s, who I hang out with and daven with and go to dinner with, about Obama,” recalled Scott Matasar, a Cleveland lawyer who’s active in Jewish organizations.

Matasar remembers his friends’ worries over whether Obama was “going to be OK for Israel.” But then Obama met with the community’s leaders during a swing through Cleveland in the primary, and the rabbi at the denominationally conservative synagogue Matasar attends — “a real ardent Zionist and Israel defender” — came back to synagogue convinced.

“That put a lot of my concerns to rest for my friends who are very much Israel hawks but who, like me, aren’t one-issue voters.”

Now Matasar says he’s appalled by Obama’s “rookie mistakes and bumbling” and the reported marginalization of a veteran peace negotiator, Dennis Ross, in favor of aides who back a tougher line on Netanyahu. He’s the most pro-Obama member of his social circle but is finding the president harder to defend.

“He’d been very ham-handed in the way he presented [the 1967 border announcement] and the way he sprung this on Netanyahu,” Matasar said.

A Philadelphia Democrat and pro-Israel activist, Joe Wolfson, recalled a similar progression.

“What got me past Obama in the recent election was Dennis Ross — I heard him speak in Philadelphia and I had many of my concerns allayed,” Wolfson said. “Now, I think I’m like many pro-Israel Democrats now who are looking to see whether we can vote Republican.”.............. -- Jewish Dems losing faith in Obama

August 13, 2009 Gov. Perry Receives Defender of Jerusalem Award "JERUSALEM – Gov. Rick Perry has received the Defender of Jerusalem Award, which is given to public figures who have demonstrated support and commitment to the state of Israel and its capitol, Jerusalem. The governor accepted the award while on his trip to Israel, where he also met with Israeli President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and business and academic leaders.

31 posted on 08/07/2011 5:13:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, I know all that. That’s why I had the “sarcasm off” tag after my comment. I hope you are posting in order to inform people who don’t know. Not only did Tipper oppose Hollywood’s immoral products, but her hubby was pro-life. My, how times have changed.


32 posted on 08/07/2011 5:14:53 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: SumProVita

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/07/is-perrys-support-of-in-state.html


33 posted on 08/07/2011 5:16:55 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Venturer
Perry is an astute politician,while not as conservative as some he is strongly conservative on the big issues.He will be a formidable candidate.
34 posted on 08/07/2011 5:17:13 AM PDT by ontap
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To: txrangerette

I know you did. Thanks!


35 posted on 08/07/2011 5:17:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MestaMachine

Well, which is it? One second, Perry is “too publically Christian in his profession of belief”, the next second he is too secretely pro-Muslim.

Pick one, for crying out loud.


36 posted on 08/07/2011 5:20:19 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Gargantua

karl rove flipped him.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/19/karl-rove/karl-rove-says-he-and-consultant-david-weeks-persu/

According to a 2003 Rove profile published in Texas Monthly magazine, Rove and Weeks “persuaded Perry, an obscure Democratic legislator from Haskell who had co-chaired Al Gore’s 1988 Democratic presidential primary campaign in Texas, to switch parties for the election. West Texas was swinging Republican anyway, and Perry, who was discouraged by his failure to advance in the House leadership and thinking of becoming a lobbyist, had nothing to lose.”

The rest is dramatic Republican history: Perry, whose advisers included Rove, upset Hightower and has now held statewide office for nearly 20 years. Rove went on to help Bush to the White House.


37 posted on 08/07/2011 5:20:43 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: org.whodat
You can harp on that 'till the cows come home but facts are facts. Texas is a border state with an unsecured international border with Mexico and we are on the front lines with no federal policy except to educate without asking and to provide health care without asking and these are NOT Texas laws -- so we deal with the cards we've been dealt the best way we can. Perry understands this problem more than anyone else running does.

Gov. Perry and The Texas Dream Act

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It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the Texas Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach.

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38 posted on 08/07/2011 5:22:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MestaMachine
karl rove flipped him.

22 years ago Phil Gramm was bringing conservative democrats across to the right, as he himself had done. Gramm stood next to Rick Perry when he made that announcement:

....."Rumors that Mr. Perry would defect to the Republican Party — and run against Jim Hightower, the populist Democratic agriculture commissioner — picked up steam by late 1989. On Sept. 29, Mr. Perry made it official at a Capitol news conference. At his side were Fred Meyer, chairman of the Texas Republican Party, and Senator Phil Gramm, a former Democrat, who was aggressively courting would-be converts.

Mr. Perry’s timing, now legendary, could not have been better. He was one of only two Republicans elected to nonjudicial statewide office in 1990. Eight years later, Republicans swept every one of them.

“Perry has been a risk taker,” said Mr. Hance, the party switcher who became the chancellor of Texas Tech University. “And if you look at Perry’s timing in every race, he’s been the golden guy.” Taking a Look at the Governor, Back When He Was a Democrat

39 posted on 08/07/2011 5:27:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

I never said he was a *closet muslim*. Don’t get hysterical. Someone said he doesn’t support muslims. That is verifiably wrong. CW always asks for links. There they are. Seems to me he DOES support muslims when it suits him...while using the same language obama does to describe the nonexistent *contributions* of islam.
Sorry if that offends you, but that is the truth. This thread is the first I know about it, and it goes back years.


40 posted on 08/07/2011 5:28:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I made no judgement, CW. Just the facts. From Texas. This islam thing has sort of taken me by surprise though.


41 posted on 08/07/2011 5:30:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Going down! (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: SumProVita
I meant my first post—the one you are responding to—to go to Cincinatus Wife.I sent a correction to myself to that effect.
However,I'm glad it was sent,though in error,to a Perry supporter or it would have been completely out of place.
42 posted on 08/07/2011 5:31:43 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: MestaMachine
I made no judgement, CW. Just the facts. From Texas. This islam thing has sort of taken me by surprise though.

I don't know why it would. Perry knows how to bring people together.

43 posted on 08/07/2011 5:32:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Happy Rain
If only he didn't sound SO MUCH like George W Bush.Granted,it is shallow to judge somebody by their way of speaking—and I don't—I'm just saying that to the dumb masses,of which the hopelessly feckless “independents” hold sway—he is Bush3 and I'm afraid unelectable on a national stage. A Texas accent is a fine Southern accent and nothing to be ashamed of—but there it is.

Well, Happy Rain, you've never like the idea of Rick Perry but that's okay. I have more faith in my fellow man and 2012 voters.

I put the video links in Post #3 so people can get used to how the next president of the United States talks and THINKS.

44 posted on 08/07/2011 5:35:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

later


45 posted on 08/07/2011 5:36:05 AM PDT by quintr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
And here I thought we had gotten past the old bush BS of amnesty is not amnesty if you call it something else. But then the compassionate liberal streak of Perry's shows often.
46 posted on 08/07/2011 5:39:18 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: cripplecreek
We can’t afford another wishy washy open border president. That alone negates any claims of fiscal responsibility.

We've been dealt a hand here in Texas (and if you've read my threads you know much of this) where we have a federal government that has not answered the call to protect the 1250 border miles Texas shares with Mexico. Gov. Perry does not believe a fence is the answer to illegals crossing the U.S.-Mexican border. He believes conservative ascendancy will. So we do the best with what we have ($100M/yr of our own state money put up to help secure an international border). We have a lot of crime to combat and pay for because of the illegal activity (drugs, human smuggling and trafficking) generated by an unsecured international border.

We can't refuse to educate or give health care, as everyone in every state is faced with the same situation, but since Perry is a border gov, he's held responsible for illegal aliens, where everyone vents their frustration about the problem using him as a whipping boy (and to make political points and take pot shots). Perry's asked for drones (went to Israel and asked how they protect Gaza Strip), has asked for 3000 people here on the TX border (crickets). Perry has set up an elite Texas Ranger unit to work on the border. Then we find out the Feds have been "running guns" across the border and we've had people killed because of that.

The Texas Dream Act was set up because we have a lot of kids here from the way the feds have allowed this to snowball. Students who have been in Texas for 3 years and graduated from a Texas high school get instate tuition (no benefits -- they pay their way) The entire Texas Senate voted for this in 1991. (The Texas Dream Act does NOT have all the hidden goodies the U.S. Congress "Dream Act" was trying to get into law.)

Perry has said: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.”

The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days and the governor is allowed to call Special Sessions. He called a Special Session because he had put "sanctuary cities" on the agenda and the legislature dropped the ball -- but the Senate and then the House left again -- giving Gov. Perry nothing to sign (Texas legislators also have elections they'll be facing and no doubt didn't want a vote on this shadowing their re-election bids).

In this just ended session, after about 3 tries to slip it into a bill, a law that required people to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license got through [The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session......By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.]. However, the ink on that law was barely dry before it was overturned by a judge – as usual.

In this last Texas Legislative session Gov. Perry signed the Texas Photo ID Voting Law -- it took 6 years to get it through -- Only 6 states have a PHOTO Voter ID requirement.

Texas has a long history with Mexico and being "Mexican" does not mean that you aren't an American, or a Texan. A lot of Texans have Mexican heritage or are married to someone who does. Perry doesn't lead with his chin. He's a thoughtful man.

Rick Perry is as ready to fix this as anyone and understands it probably better than anyone running -- or commenting anonymously on a chat site.

47 posted on 08/07/2011 5:40:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; cripplecreek
From Perry:

“Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.”

OH HELL NO!

48 posted on 08/07/2011 5:44:05 AM PDT by rintense (God made me a conservative. FR made me a better one. :))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For the Free Republic Record........ Few modern democrats can claim this honor

Perry was in the Boy Scouts (BSA) and earned the rank of Eagle Scout; his son, Griffin, would also later become an Eagle Scout.[9][10] The BSA honored Perry with the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award.[11]


49 posted on 08/07/2011 5:46:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He is an extremely astute politician with a keen sense of where voters are, and he has great instincts on message, has surrounded himself with a very loyal staff, and has never been fully vetted by the media? Sounds a bit like campaign-mode Obama.

And you say Perry and some of his staffers are known to have thin skins, too? All Perry needs now is an African dad that abandoned him right away, and a white bleeding-heart mom who’d drag him around overseas before abandoning him as well, some communist/terrorist mentors, and a shady non-record of mystery and non-accomplishment in lefty academe, and he is Barack Obama, by this account.


50 posted on 08/07/2011 5:51:34 AM PDT by flowerplough (Pelosi on Republicans: "They want to destroy food safety, clean air, clean water, ...")
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