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Dean: What is tea party smoking?
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Posted on 08/07/2011 8:37:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dean: What is tea party smoking?

Former Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean says the tea party was "totally unreasonable" in the deficit-reduction debate and warns that Republicans are being held hostage.

"This is a tea party problem," Dean said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation." "They are totally unreasonable and doctrinaire and not founded in reality. I think they've been smoking some of that tea, not just drinking it."

"This is ridiculous what's going on here," he said.

The firebrand Democrat and former Vermont governor said the Standard & Poor's downgrade of the nation's credit is "a good thing" because it underscores the need to raise revenue to address the nation's fiscal crisis.

But he said certain elements of the Republican Party make it impossible for reasonable people to do what Dean said is right -- raising taxes on the wealthy.

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I see the talking points are out......
1 posted on 08/07/2011 8:37:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Yep, the democrat talking heads have been parroting the line in unison.
2 posted on 08/07/2011 8:39:15 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I just saw some clown on FOX use the term “Tea party bombers” multiple times.


3 posted on 08/07/2011 8:39:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Sub-Driver

smoking your sorry ass up and down the Northeast Corridor, you psychopath.


4 posted on 08/07/2011 8:39:31 AM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: Sub-Driver

They-are-skeered-to-death-of-the-TEA-party!


5 posted on 08/07/2011 8:39:46 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sub-Driver

The liberal elite establishment are shocked at the slave rebellion.


6 posted on 08/07/2011 8:39:54 AM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: Sub-Driver

..and I fear it will work. Obama will end up skirting this entire issue and blame will be placed in the one place where blame is least deserved, in the tea party’s lap. There is simply NO one out there defending the tea party and blaming Obama’s out of control spending for the debt crisis.


7 posted on 08/07/2011 8:40:31 AM PDT by tatown (Why should the nation have to take food nutrition advice from a marxist woman with a fat @ss?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Victory cigars.


8 posted on 08/07/2011 8:40:43 AM PDT by black_diamond
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To: Sub-Driver

obama money? It’s worthless, ya know!


9 posted on 08/07/2011 8:41:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Dear YEOWWWWW Howie:

It's a problem with your Teat Party. You guys suck way too much.

10 posted on 08/07/2011 8:41:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver
I see the talking points are out......

Kerry called it "the tea party downgrade"

This will not work. Thinking Americans know you cannot tax and spend your way to prosperity, and that is the tea party message.

I just hope there are enough thinking Americans left.

11 posted on 08/07/2011 8:43:24 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: tatown

We need to start calling the ‘Rats the Teat Party. It will sow great confusion as to who is talking about what.


12 posted on 08/07/2011 8:44:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
It's a problem with your Teat Party.

On behalf of teats, I object.

OK, you can invoke teats and those pigs in the same sentence. But not breasts. Breasts are sacred.

Can we all agree on that?

13 posted on 08/07/2011 8:44:28 AM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: Sub-Driver

“It’s the Tea Parties fault” is the talking points for today.

It’s not Bushes fault anymore. It now is Tea Party. LOL


14 posted on 08/07/2011 8:44:28 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Sub-Driver

The tea party is smoking the ground-up bones of the democrat donkey.


15 posted on 08/07/2011 8:44:30 AM PDT by Tax Government (Democrat: "I'm driving to Socialism at 95 mph." Republican: "Observe the speed limit.")
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To: Sub-Driver

The TEA party is a greater threat to the Republicans than the Dems. But both sides don’t want them.

I expect the TEA party Freshmen to be exiled soon.


16 posted on 08/07/2011 8:44:31 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Paladin2

Pot calling kettle black. No pun or race intended.


17 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:02 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Sub-Driver

we are not smoking what Howard Dean’s son was selling


18 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Sub-Driver

It is their Alinsky Communist playbook:

Always posit lies. “The big lie repeated over and over and over again becomes the truth.” (No matter how outrageous—like homosexuality is “good”) (Works best with the “plastic” minds of children—Dewey—get your kids and grandkids OUT of the indoctrination centers and turn off tv)

It is what their press is for—to make lies become the truth and fill the masses heads with cognitive dissonance so they couldn’t think if they wanted to.

The “free” press is owned. It is exactly like Winston Smith’s world....only they have a few “leaks” in their system....Not as tight as 1984 YET!!!!


19 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:43 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: tatown
There is simply NO one out there defending the tea party and blaming Obama’s out of control spending for the debt crisis.

Yes, but since the Tea Party has no leader (and Sarah Palin has been wise enough to lay low) the Democrat attacks come off even to casual observers like a little kid blaming the wall he just ran into for hurting his head.

The Alinsky tactics don't work as well if they can't be used on an individual. Democrats just sound pathetic. and a lot of people who fell for the personalized attacks on GWB last time aren't going to fall for this.

20 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: tatown

How the heck did we get on the defensive over Obama’s downgrade? Why aren’t we the ones attacking?!?!?


21 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:48 AM PDT by comebacknewt ((on second thought, never mind, go away again Newt))
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To: Paladin2

I LOVE IT....PICK YOUR PARTY....the TEAT party? OR...the TEA party!


22 posted on 08/07/2011 8:45:58 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Sub-Driver
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23 posted on 08/07/2011 8:46:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Sub-Driver

They had control for 2 years and all they did was spend spend spend. They could’ve raised taxes, they didn’t

They have no credibility now.


24 posted on 08/07/2011 8:46:08 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: Sub-Driver

25 posted on 08/07/2011 8:46:36 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, Dr. Dean, asking government to stay at the 2011 levels and not grow at 8% / year forever, without regard to the growth of the economy, is completely unreasonable?

Ask anyone outside San Francisco the question “Is the size of government in 2011 too big, too small or just right”.
Almost everyone will say it’s either too large or just right. Tell them they have just agreed with what the Tea Party was pushing during the debt ceiling debate and a percentage of them will think you’re lying.


26 posted on 08/07/2011 8:46:49 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government rushes to help the irresponsible and does little for the responsible)
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To: comebacknewt

I agree. The GOP should have been on all of the Sunday news shows blaming Obama for the Navy Seal deaths. They died because of Obama’s need to spike the football.


27 posted on 08/07/2011 8:47:30 AM PDT by tatown (Why should the nation have to take food nutrition advice from a marxist woman with a fat @ss?)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Pot calling kettle black. No pun or race intended.

I believe the non-racist version is: kettle calling pot black...

28 posted on 08/07/2011 8:48:02 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Marty62

Coming to a store near you ,” Tea Parties fault “ nine out of ten Dems can’t be wrong ,but never right


29 posted on 08/07/2011 8:48:03 AM PDT by molson209
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To: cripplecreek

I just saw that robot calling the Tea Party “economic terrorists” and all this divisive rhetoric. Remember Obama’s speech about civility a few months ago? The Dems are the biggest hypocrites ever.


30 posted on 08/07/2011 8:48:09 AM PDT by WillT
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To: cripplecreek

I just saw that robot calling the Tea Party “economic terrorists” and all this divisive rhetoric. Remember Obama’s speech about civility a few months ago? The Dems are the biggest hypocrites ever.


31 posted on 08/07/2011 8:48:09 AM PDT by WillT
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To: Sub-Driver

The left is not used to serious, dedicated opposition. The more the left complains about the Tea Party, the it becomes obvious that it’s been getting a free ride, and those days are over. When the D’s are in charge, it’s an unmitigated disaster. Period.


32 posted on 08/07/2011 8:48:37 AM PDT by Spok (A free man wants to be neither slave nor master.)
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To: cripplecreek

“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny”

Looks like liberty is holding its own or pulling ahead!


33 posted on 08/07/2011 8:49:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Sub-Driver

Democrat responsibility wrapped up in 3 shorts words: "Not my fault"

34 posted on 08/07/2011 8:50:18 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Sub-Driver

it underscores the need to raise revenue to address the nation’s fiscal crisis.... I think the S&P explicitly pointed out the Dems habit of spending what they ain’t got.


35 posted on 08/07/2011 8:50:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Tea Party members in Washington were the only ones right. No one else wanted to quit spending. If it weren't for the Tea Party, Oboma would have gotten unlimited funding to spend as he pleased. ALL of America should be thanking the Tea Party for trying to do what has to be done.
$4 trillion has to be cut. The Tea Party members are the only ones brave enough to get it done. God bless them all. We need hundreds more in Washington just like them.
36 posted on 08/07/2011 8:51:07 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: comebacknewt

From Para-Ord.45, yesterday comes this quote, which needs to be stated often!

-S&P exec John Chambers,

“But $4 trillion would be a good down payment. We thought that..if policy makers could deliver the goods on that, then that would be a strong sign on our political scores and eventually on our projections on the fiscal side.”

S&P has already said it may slash the Triple-A rating if a debt ceiling deal is not accompanied by what it deems is a credible plan to cut the $14.3 trillion federal [debt] by $4 trillion.

S&P’s Chambers is saying the ratings agency wants to see at least a $4 trillion deal, one that would come with bipartisan support.

There was only ever one plan that did what S&P said was required — $4 trillion in cuts with bipartisan support. That’d be Cut, Cap, and Balance — a plan that cut $4 trillion and got bipartisan support in the House of Representatives.

As Democrats tonight, and some Republicans, lash out and blame the Tea Party for causing the United States to lose its credit rating, it is worth pointing out that only the Tea Party offered up a plan to avoid what happened.-


37 posted on 08/07/2011 8:52:46 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Howie suggesting the Partiers are on drugs. That’s very funny.


38 posted on 08/07/2011 8:53:24 AM PDT by RichInOC ("YEEEAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!")
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To: FatherofFive
I just hope there are enough thinking Americans left.

And when it's all said and done, that's what it really comes down to. That's what worries me the most going into 2012. And beyond.
39 posted on 08/07/2011 8:54:25 AM PDT by Zarro (Jail Congress)
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To: Sub-Driver

The strange thing is that some liberals actually believe this crap.


40 posted on 08/07/2011 8:56:06 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sub-Driver

To a hard-core Leftist, or pretty much any of the current batch of Democrat Party Leaders, the mere notion of a Government that is aims to be a fiscally responsible, non-Socialst, Constitution abiding form of Democracy is a Wild Drug Fantasy.

This jackass made more sense when he was on stage screeching.


41 posted on 08/07/2011 8:56:25 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: Sub-Driver

What bothers me is the fact that these people had to be waterboared to call the real terrorist, “terrorist”.But easily call tea party memebers “terrorist.”


42 posted on 08/07/2011 8:57:22 AM PDT by TShaunK
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To: griswold3

“The liberal elite establishment are shocked at the slave rebellion.”

Correct. I was just thinking how much 2011 resembles the start of the French Revolution. It started out as a middle class tax revolt which was later co opted by communists.

Not an exact analogy.


43 posted on 08/07/2011 8:58:23 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Sub-Driver

Another talking point is that Standard & Poor’s has zero credibility because they totally botched the sub-prime mortgage bond ratings by overstating their value. While that fact is clearly true, to my mind, THAT was the aberration. S&P has done literally millions of ratings, and their overall performance throughout its history has been excellent. Of course, when they give out a rating that is harmful to democrat prospects, their entire credibility becomes the issue.


44 posted on 08/07/2011 9:00:14 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Dear Dr Dean

For once in your worthless existence quit lying. You and the rest of the DC political machine are to blame. The facts on this issue are painfully clear. This is too serious a matter for you political clowns to be allowed to continue to play stupid DC games

From Para-Ord.45, yesterday comes this quote, which needs to be stated often!

-S&P exec John Chambers,

“But $4 trillion would be a good down payment. We thought that..if policy makers could deliver the goods on that, then that would be a strong sign on our political scores and eventually on our projections on the fiscal side.”

S&P has already said it may slash the Triple-A rating if a debt ceiling deal is not accompanied by what it deems is a credible plan to cut the $14.3 trillion federal [debt] by $4 trillion.

S&P’s Chambers is saying the ratings agency wants to see at least a $4 trillion deal, one that would come with bipartisan support.

There was only ever one plan that did what S&P said was required — $4 trillion in cuts with bipartisan support. That’d be Cut, Cap, and Balance — a plan that cut $4 trillion and got bipartisan support in the House of Representatives.

As Democrats tonight, and some Republicans, lash out and blame the Tea Party for causing the United States to lose its credit rating, it is worth pointing out that only the Tea Party offered up a plan to avoid what happened.-

45 posted on 08/07/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: EGPWS
They-are-skeered-to-death-of-the-TEA-party!

The tax slaves are rebelling.
No slave labor - no support for the democrat base. If there's no money to support the parasites, they're going to start to realize the democrat politicians are not Gods - they're nothing but low life shysters who lied to them for the sake of their own power and privilege.

The democrats preach about sharing the wealth, but not one of them is willing to share their own multimillion dollar bank accounts with anyone!
The democrat base demands we all share the wealth, but not one of them ever mentions sharing the labor.

46 posted on 08/07/2011 9:00:51 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Safetgiver
From Para-Ord.45, yesterday comes this quote, which needs to be stated often!

-S&P exec John Chambers,

“But $4 trillion would be a good down payment. We thought that..if policy makers could deliver the goods on that, then that would be a strong sign on our political scores and eventually on our projections on the fiscal side.”

S&P has already said it may slash the Triple-A rating if a debt ceiling deal is not accompanied by what it deems is a credible plan to cut the $14.3 trillion federal [debt] by $4 trillion.

S&P’s Chambers is saying the ratings agency wants to see at least a $4 trillion deal, one that would come with bipartisan support.

There was only ever one plan that did what S&P said was required — $4 trillion in cuts with bipartisan support. That’d be Cut, Cap, and Balance — a plan that cut $4 trillion and got bipartisan support in the House of Representatives.

As Democrats tonight, and some Republicans, lash out and blame the Tea Party for causing the United States to lose its credit rating, it is worth pointing out that only the Tea Party offered up a plan to avoid what happened.-

47 posted on 08/07/2011 9:02:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: Sub-Driver

Howard Dean gave the commencement address at my daughters UVM graduation a few years ago. His address went..we won ..we won ..we won..Obama won...Obama is god...

At the conclusion of the speech, my daughter who withstood four years of brain washing and came out a right winger, texted me and said ..YYYYEEEEAAAAAAAA!

If I had my suicide vest on me, I would have taken him out.


48 posted on 08/07/2011 9:02:10 AM PDT by y6162
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To: concerned about politics

The Tea Party is the new Bush. The Democrats demonized Bush to win in 06 and 08. They are trying to do the same thing to the Tea Party.


49 posted on 08/07/2011 9:03:27 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Exactly, the Tea Party ppl have no leader, no one to defend their rights, but yet they are the ones to blame.. just average American citizens fed up with government as we now know it...


50 posted on 08/07/2011 9:06:02 AM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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