Skip to comments.A THIRD night of violence kicks off in London as police consider banning Notting Hill carnival
Posted on 08/08/2011 10:57:43 AM PDT by UKrepublican
Violence erupted in broad daylight this afternoon as rioters surrounded police vans, looted lorries and targeted shops in a series of attacks across London.
Scores of police raced to Hackney as a mob of hooded youths began hurling missiles at the officers. There was also sporadic violence in nearby Dalston where shops and businesses were attacked and youths clashed with police and set fire to cars outside Lewisham Town Hall.
Other areas of London were braced for violence as shops closed early in Peckham, Stratford and Islington and barriers were erected outside Westfield Shopping Centre. Kilburn High Street has also been closed off.
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I am due to travel into London on business tomorrow.......getting pretty nervous!
If you search the tag #londonriots on twitter you get some clear first hand accounts.....the TV media has been woefully poor in reporting on this.
Enoch was right!
The brit papers are already carrying plenty of comments from witnesses who are getting fed up with the coppers’ timidity.
Just like the Battle of Seattle and other riots the lowlifes can smell weakness and take advantage.
If you’ve got a timid, “social-worker-with-a-badge”, politically-correct police force you are guaranteed rioting, excuse me, “urban unrest”.
The police are being way too nice to the looters and thugs. It is time to start shooting looters and maiming the rioters.
Take some of the early looters out and let them bleed out in the street and the rest will back down. Tough times calls
for tough love.
There is a new element, cropping up recently.
I have read that in recent riots, cell-phone pix of looters are going viral and people are being identified, named and shamed—outside of the system—and are suffering probably life-long consequences.
The media keeping mentioning "Jamaican gangsters", but what they refuse to mention, and what many of us know, is that there are just as many as Turkish Muslims in this area, and they are deeply involved in these riots.
Not really. Turks and Kurds tend to go to Germany.
Vast majority of Muslims in UK are South Asians: Pakistanis, Indians and Bengalis. For obvious reasons, most Muslims in UK are from the former empire.
The somewhat derogatory term for UK Muslims is "Pakis."
Yes very true......these people do make me laugh, I am 24 and so quite in touch with this sort of generation. The sort of good muslims that drink alcohol and and cause all sorts of trouble........
And coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
And coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
I don’t believe a word of that; in a country with a camera on every corner, the looters I’ve seen have done the right thing by covering or partially covering their faces with t-shirts, bandanas, whatever. And of course, the simplest way to put a halt to all this would be for the gov’t to order that anyone rioting with their face covered up would be liable for summary execution on the spot. But....the gov’t won’t do that.
Generally, yes. But this area of London has the largest single collection of Turkish immigrants (legal and illegal) in the UK.
you seriously don’t get it; the Brit gov’t supports the rioters which is why the cops go light on them. See, the only population the Brit gov’t worries about is the Anglo-Brit population, i.e., the indiginous population. So...they go light on the Jamaicans as a warning to the Anglo’s that “if they come for you, you’re on your own”. So the Anglo-Brit population cowers in fear and loathing with full knowledge that if they get out of hand, the Gov’t will unleash the Jamaicans on them and then support the Jamaicans by killing the Anglo-Brits. This is an old commie trick for manipulating ethnic group hatred to the gov’ts advantage.
Really. I defer to your more specific knowledge.
From what I understand, Turks in Europe have to date been less involved in these types of riots than Algerians, Moroccans, Pakis, etc. That could of course be changing.
I’m assuming you’re traveling on business or for pleasure? Then you are probably going to safe neighborhoods and/or the West End and City of London. I’m sure you’ll be fine! Have fun! It’s a great city.
London calling to the faraway towns
Now that war is declared-and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, all you boys and girls
London calling, now don’t look at us
All that phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust
London calling, see we ain’t got no swing
‘Cept for the ring of that truncheon thing
The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in
Engines stop running and the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
London is drowning-and I live by the river
London calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, an’ go it alone
London calling upon the zombies of death
Quit holding out-and draw another breath
London calling-and I don’t wanna shout
But when we were talking-I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain’t got no highs
Except for that one with the yellowy eyes
Now get this
London calling, yeah, I was there, too
An’ you know what they said? Well, some of it was true!
London calling at the top of the dial
After all this, won’t you give me a smile?
I never felt so much a’ like
It is turning into Clash song in this story all I seeing riot and cops can’t do anything seem like it
It’s business...I live in a town about 20 miles north of London.......but actually it is to inspect some property developments my company does work on........and unfortunately they are in some rather horrible places that look horrific on your average day let alone when there’s riots going on!
But I figure it should be ok during the day!
Your cops need to kill them all and not bother with sorting. People don’t have a right to behave like this and there is no reason for cops to risk their wellbeing trying arrest them.
You are actually right on that, Turkish muslims are far more integrated into society.....however the younger generation especially in these areas of London cause a lot of trouble.
I’m sure you’ll be fine; but keep in touch with your friends at FR!
Thanks, I shall do!
London used to be such a wonderful city. I would walk for hours exploring the city. It was fabulous. But then this was twenty years ago.
Yes it is worrying how a mob mentality can escalate out of control before you know it.
It still is......London is huge but like any big city it has got its ‘areas’.
How’s that whole ‘no guns for the law-abiding’ thing working out, again? :P
I have seen photos of whole crowds of white kids who are clearly with the anarchist “anti-globalization” bunch, joyfully participating in the riots, setting up barricades, smashing windows and kicking in doors at McDonalds and trotting around with armsful of goods from stores that they looted.
It obviously started in the black areas, but as usual, the white leftist “youth” crowd has joined in. The same thing happened during the Oakland riots here a few months ago.
I’ve been referencing a lot of Clash songs recently, even this one from Big Audio Dynamite:
From “The Bottom Line”
A dance to the tune of economic decline
Is when you do the bottom line
Nagging questions always remain
Why did it happen and who was to blame?
England Swings like a Pendulum do...
If it gets much worse, it’s going to be a Sex Pistols song - Anarchy In The UK.
Winchester Cathedral, your bring me down....
Yah... I think we’re going to have to start delving into the Sex Pistols’ catalog soon as it gets worse, though.
Had a quick chat with a friend who lives in the Walworth area. Genius that he is, decided to take a quick stroll to see what the business are doing. Everything is basically closed, most boarded up. Not long after he got back they evidently hit Speedy Cash.
There’s trouble in Birmingham apparently......very strange it should spread.......clearly a coordinated effort to cause anarchy.
There’s a rumble in Brighton tonight
Ringside seats for the neighborhood fight,
There ain’t a damn thing that the cops can do,
There’s a rumble in Brighton tonight.
-The Stray Cats
One of the Freeper mention on that another thread I think good ole Freeper is right
The police don’t have another gear to step up to in the UK. They don’t have nearly enough armed police and their own policies hamstring them.
On top of that, there’s the “Stop! or I shall yell Stop again! And blow my little whistle!” issue they have.
Well not entirely.....one of the routes of this violence was the police shooting someone dead lol.
I didn’t say they didn’t have any armed police. I said they didn’t have enough armed police.
And they make a big point of advertising that most cops aren’t armed with lethal weapons there. Hence, “stop or I shall shout and blow my whistle” still being an issue.
So you want to riot, eh? Fine, then the carnival is cancelled!
That’ll learn ‘em.
Part of the carnival is on fire anyway...
Call in the Gurkha Regiment. Give them a simple order: “Clear the streets of the rioters and looters. Deadly force is authorized.”
Kick booty and get it done. Make sure you post photos of rioter and looter bodies on the BBC and Times.
The other rioters and looters will understand it isn’t a game. Arson and looting have real and fatal consequences. Deal with it.