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So where WERE the police? Shopkeepers mystified at tactics that left them defenceless
Mail Online ^ | August 9,2011

Posted on 08/09/2011 1:46:54 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Officers accused of inaction as looting mobs go wild Cameron leads calls for more robust policing Top Yard commander: 'We need to do more for London' All able-bodied officers and special constables called in Plastic bullets would be used for first time 'if deemed necessary'

Shopkeepers joined an increasing chorus of voices today demanding to know what the police were doing as swathes of London descended into chaos last night.

Business owners accused police of adopting a softly-softly approach which left their shops and businesses vulnerable to attack by baying mobs.

While police were criticised in some quarters for being far too slow to get to riot scenes, officers were accused by shopkeepers in Hackney of standing just yards away from looters as windows were smashed and armfuls of goods were scooped up.

Cypran Asota, who has run the Boots opticians for 25 years, told the London Evening Standard how he watched as the shop was destroyed.

More...

Surrender! Powerless police let the mob seize the streets, looting shops and starting fires in their wake

London burns at hands of the mob as the PM finally flies home: Gangs armed with petrol bombs and poles on THIRD night of riots and cynical looting

Centuries of business up in flames: The family-run furniture shop razed to the ground by rioters' fire

We ran for our lives as thugs ambushed bus: Chaos across the capital as orgy of violence rages on

London-born Ferdinand calls for Army to patrol riot-torn streets of the capital

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gunban; gunfreezone
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1 posted on 08/09/2011 1:46:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

When seconds count, the police are... ?


2 posted on 08/09/2011 1:48:25 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Hojczyk

Yes, why is this burning permitted?


3 posted on 08/09/2011 1:49:12 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Hojczyk

So, Londoners, how’s that gun ban working out for y’all?


4 posted on 08/09/2011 1:49:25 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Hojczyk
We ran for our lives as thugs ambushed bus

Oy, and back when yer 'ad yer guns took away from ye' didn' ye'?

5 posted on 08/09/2011 1:51:23 PM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: grobdriver

...minutes away!


6 posted on 08/09/2011 1:52:24 PM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Hojczyk

“...special constables called in Plastic bullets would be used for first time ‘if deemed necessary’ ....”

Sorta sounds like a liberal’s version of “I f*rt in your general direction.”

My gawd, the UK is turning into France!


7 posted on 08/09/2011 1:54:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Jane Austen
Yes, why is this burning permitted?

Because, would you believe, guns are banned and police are unionized.

8 posted on 08/09/2011 1:54:40 PM PDT by Rapscallion (All Democrats are equal but some Democrats are more equal than others.)
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To: Hojczyk

‘We need to do more for London’ All able-bodied officers and special constables called in Plastic bullets would be used for first time ‘if deemed necessary’

Only if they riot for more than a week, and burn down 3/4 of the city.

Amazing.

I hope we never reach that level. But THAT is where political correctness will take us.


9 posted on 08/09/2011 1:55:26 PM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: Hojczyk

City is burning down and they are “thinking” of using water cannons and plastic bullets.

I always wondered what it looked like when the barbarians won.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 1:56:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: grobdriver

Intentional government set-up to keep citizens defenseless and at the mercy of the Marxists. Why do you think they can’t own guns and protect themselves? Hitler took the guns away also and condition cops into their worldview.

2nd Amendment is to protect personal property and family and England ditched Capitalism for socialism and collectivism years ago and destroyed their Common Law practices....makes them all serfs and slaves of the welfare class and immigrants, whom they are willingly supporting so those communists can destroy all their traditions and way of life...to create a utopia of serfs with no rights whatsoever.


11 posted on 08/09/2011 2:00:14 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Hojczyk

The police sound fearful of doing anything—as if it is more desirable to avoid possibly inflicting some damage on a looter than to protect innocent people and their property.


12 posted on 08/09/2011 2:02:01 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Hojczyk
Like ANY cop or bobby is going to stand between some worthless civilian and a mob of "holder's people" showing understandable cultural anger against the Oppressor of the poor, honest working man.

The civilians can wait until the cleanup crew arrives. It's regrettable that the oppressors were so careless with matches as to burn down their own property. Any video to the contrary is a rightwing lie.

13 posted on 08/09/2011 2:02:35 PM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: Da Coyote

LOL! Good one!

It’s sad to see a once great nation go down the tubes...

Take notice America, as we are on the verge of the same destruction!


14 posted on 08/09/2011 2:04:21 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: grobdriver
... more than a day away?
15 posted on 08/09/2011 2:05:42 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: Rapscallion

Isn’t this exactly what we’re seeing here?

Police only go after the soft or safe targets,
and anyone that is actually dangerous, or might put up a “PC violation” lawsuit, is ignored and let off.


16 posted on 08/09/2011 2:06:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“Take notice America, as we are on the verge of the same destruction!”

No, we are not. We use LRAD and tear gas......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH1CqBpjDt4&feature=related


17 posted on 08/09/2011 2:07:01 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: savagesusie
The government has plundered the productive for so long on behalf of the parasites, the parasites decided to eliminate the middleman.
18 posted on 08/09/2011 2:08:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare, the Enabling Act of 2010.)
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To: Jane Austen

>> Yes, why is this burning permitted?

Chickensquat politial correctness run amok.

Winston Churchill is spinning in his grave.


19 posted on 08/09/2011 2:08:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: grobdriver

The police are part of the prosecution arm of the state. Their purpose is to prosecute those who contravene state law.

It is not their function to protect citizens of the state, though the police may choose to do this.


20 posted on 08/09/2011 2:08:22 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I hope that Americans start to realize how important it is to uphold our 2nd Amendment rights and how dangerous it is to even pay attention to the UN request that America disarm itself.


21 posted on 08/09/2011 2:09:15 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Hojczyk
officers were accused by shopkeepers in Hackney of standing just yards away from looters as windows were smashed and armfuls of goods were scooped up.

Just like the riots after the Rodney King trial. The police did nothing. It was up to shop owners to stop the looters.

22 posted on 08/09/2011 2:12:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Hojczyk

LOS ANGELES: THE SAME THING....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TELeNBory8


23 posted on 08/09/2011 2:13:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Hojczyk

The cops are chicken-shits looking forward to cushy pensions and not wanting to risk a hangnail. Their leaders are elitists who are so far removed from the life of the people that this whole thing might as well be taking place on an ant farm. And the People — despite the fear and anger they feel at the moment — will go back to doing exactly as they are told.

Because that’s the REAL goal of the police and government in Britain — to perpetuate the system of Lefist Aristocracy that exists — and to hold the people down.


24 posted on 08/09/2011 2:14:14 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Hojczyk

SOMEBODY GOOD WITH PHOTOSHOP PLEASE!

There is a famous poster that was created during World War II, asking Americans to send guns to England so they could defend themselves.

It would be hilarious to see it marked up to reflect these days and times (and apparently, it would still be relevant)!


25 posted on 08/09/2011 2:15:44 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: driftdiver

The Korean shop-keepers of LA, keepin’ it real, and getting the dirty job done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvaNJ0mF_JM&feature=related

Sorry..!! ^_^


26 posted on 08/09/2011 2:16:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: savagesusie

Er...not all guns aren’t illegal to own. My grandfather has two.


27 posted on 08/09/2011 2:16:51 PM PDT by NikkiB
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To: NikkiB
That is meant to say: not all guns are illegal.
28 posted on 08/09/2011 2:19:25 PM PDT by NikkiB
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To: Jonty30

“It is not their function to protect citizens of the state, though the police may choose to do this.”

####

So the “To Protect and Serve” emblem is a lie?


29 posted on 08/09/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: ScreamingFist

“No, we are not. We use LRAD and tear gas......”

If the police get there first.


30 posted on 08/09/2011 2:21:09 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: I cannot think of a name

“SOMEBODY GOOD WITH PHOTOSHOP PLEASE!

There is a famous poster that was created during World War II, asking Americans to send guns to England so they could defend themselves.

It would be hilarious to see it marked up to reflect these days and times (and apparently, it would still be relevant)!”

PS - the poster can be found about half way through this link. A nice big headline that says, “Send a Gun To Defend A British Home.” Tragically funny in light of current events.

http://www.nraila.org/media/misc/lostrts.html


31 posted on 08/09/2011 2:21:50 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Hojczyk

Years of lib idiocy have their consequences.


32 posted on 08/09/2011 2:23:29 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Hojczyk

Perhaps the police can politely ask the rioters to stop? /s


33 posted on 08/09/2011 2:23:29 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: I cannot think of a name

34 posted on 08/09/2011 2:24:49 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: EyeGuy

That may be their motto, but that is not their function.

They are an offensive force, not defensive. That is why they won’t do anything to stop a crime. They only act when a crime has been committed.

When I say that, I am not saying there aren’t good cops out there who would stop a crime, if they were aware of one.


35 posted on 08/09/2011 2:25:05 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“Take notice America, as we are on the verge of the same destruction!”

Uhhh, no. The lessons of the LA riots were well learned. In general, the U.S. police will respond to anything like London with overwhelming force. To protect the rioters from the populace as much as anything.


36 posted on 08/09/2011 2:25:36 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Jonty30

More from the LA riots:

Humvees show up at 1:50, don’t miss the LA cop at the end, “there’s just too many of them...”

Sounds juuuust like London, ‘cept much sunnier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTxjQPf9vk&NR=1


37 posted on 08/09/2011 2:28:44 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Jonty30

More from the LA riots:

Humvees show up at 1:50, don’t miss the LA cop at the end, “there’s just too many of them...”

Sounds juuuust like London, ‘cept much sunnier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KTxjQPf9vk&NR=1


38 posted on 08/09/2011 2:28:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Hojczyk

A goodly hunk of rebar with duct tape wrapped for a handle, or any old crowbar, would work well for the shopkeepers. (They’ve no Louisville Sluggers, most likely, and those cricket thingies probably wouldn’t have the desired effect.)

‘Course, then the shopkeepers would be arrested, wouldn’t they.


39 posted on 08/09/2011 2:29:04 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
To protect the rioters from the populace as much as anything.

Well said, I haven't even considered that.....

40 posted on 08/09/2011 2:29:04 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
They were in sensitivity training class . Taught by Sir Edmund Pantybottem when the activity broke out.
41 posted on 08/09/2011 2:37:41 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: abb

Wouldn’t that be great with the word ‘Again” handwritten after the sentence, “Send a Gun To Defend a British Home.”

And repeated after the sentence, “British civilians, faced with the threat of invasion, desperately need arms for the defense of their homes” - again.

And somewhere near the bottom - “just once more, this time will get it right (maybe)”.


42 posted on 08/09/2011 2:38:00 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Da Coyote

And you are surprised? Both France and the UK have let an unbridled flow of Muzzie “immigrants” come in from their former “colonies.” The idea that the Brits would even allow the Muzzies to talk about “sharia law zones” tells you that they too have the wrong people running their government. At least here there are millions of guns in the hands of the citizens so the individual has something with which to fight back. The Europeans, “disarmed” as they are, are sitting ducks for these Islamic killers.


43 posted on 08/09/2011 2:38:20 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: I cannot think of a name

44 posted on 08/09/2011 2:38:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 929. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: Hojczyk
They are going to pass these out to the bobbies.

Man, I appreciate the 2nd Amendment.

45 posted on 08/09/2011 2:39:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Hojczyk
I don't know what the shopkeepers are complaining about. The police denounced the rioters in the strongest terms!

I saw one police officer nearly lost his composure during a press briefing and called the behavior "unacceptable".

46 posted on 08/09/2011 2:39:34 PM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: gaijin

According to PC world, baseball bats have taken a jump in sales at Amazon UK.


47 posted on 08/09/2011 2:44:01 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Hojczyk

they need Sergeant Angel.

48 posted on 08/09/2011 2:44:25 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: null and void

IIRC. The Brits took those beautiful weapons, sent by families in the US, for home defense of the UK.....and destroyed them after the war......


49 posted on 08/09/2011 2:44:41 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Hojczyk

Send in the Miami (FL) police department, they know how to shut down riots.


50 posted on 08/09/2011 2:45:44 PM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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