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Grand Jury Calls for Investigating Homeschoolers (Response...)
Homeschool Legal Defense Associaton ^ | 8/2/11

Posted on 08/09/2011 6:02:08 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

On July 25, 2011, the Miami-Dade grand jury released several sweeping recommendations in a detailed report on the Nubia Barahona case. The murder of 10-year-old Nubia, apparently at the hands of her adoptive parents earlier this year in Florida, was a heinous crime for which the perpetrators should be severely punished...

While it is right to conduct a thorough review in the aftermath of tragic events in an effort to prevent similar tragedies, it is also important not to overreact. Unfortunately, the grand jury report overreacts in its recommendations to amend Florida’s homeschool laws because of Nubia’s adoptive parents’ claim that they were homeschooling her for the seven months leading up to her death.

The grand jury recommends that the law be amended to require every notice of intent for a home education program to “be forwarded to DCF to determine if any reports have been made to the DCF Hotline.” The grand jury went on to recommend that if parents had ever been the subject of a Department of Children and Families (DCF) investigation, they were to be immediately subject to a new investigation by DCF and required to submit to a period of monitoring, even if the previous investigation completely cleared them.

These overreaching recommendations are of great concern to Home School Legal Defense Association, the local homeschool community in Florida, and the wider homeschool movement around the country. The recommendations are stunning because they assume that the lawful decision of parents to teach their children at home must be examined by DCF every single time. Even more concerning, is the grand jury’s declaration that if parents had been falsely reported up to seven years ago and completely exonerated, they would be subject to an investigation and undetermined period of monitoring by DCF.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: chicago; columbine; frhf; homeschooling; publicschool; school
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More at the link...the title given was in an email blast by the HSLDA and at tehir web site.
1 posted on 08/09/2011 6:02:13 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Joe Brower; seekthetruth

Florida news ping, please!


2 posted on 08/09/2011 6:03:06 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Maybe duct tape should also be monitored.


3 posted on 08/09/2011 6:07:45 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: metmom

Ping


4 posted on 08/09/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; bamahead; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

And what about the public school kids who die at the hands of their public school parents?

5 posted on 08/09/2011 6:12:37 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Unfortunately, the grand jury report overreacts in its recommendations to amend Florida’s homeschool laws because of Nubia’s adoptive parents’ claim that they were homeschooling her for the seven months leading up to her death.

All banks must investigate all safety deposit box renters for bank robbery as that is how a few banks got robbed.

And the stupid in government just keep on rolling...

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6 posted on 08/09/2011 6:13:50 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: metmom

The idea is that other adults will notice the marks of beatings, torture and abuse. Or she would mention it to another kid who would tell someone.

When the schools ignore or don’t see what is in front of them, they have not done their jobs.


7 posted on 08/09/2011 6:31:38 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: metmom

You wrote:”And what about the public school kids who die at the hands of their public school parents?”

My reply: Or die at the hands of public school family members and or guardians? One name comes to mind, from recent headlines, Ame Deal.


8 posted on 08/09/2011 6:38:40 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: arrogantsob

When Kayla McKean was murdered in FL more than 10 years ago and the schools nor DFACS had seen the abuse right before their eyes, I didn’t see every child they taught being investigated.


9 posted on 08/09/2011 6:39:21 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy blue)
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That is a damn shame that a little girl was killed. Most likely there were either new laws resulting from that and/or changes in procedures at the schools to increase awareness of such abuse.

It is an ongoing probable because of the Welfare Class being generally without a father in the home. Abuse of the children in those homes is an epidemic.

That is where society’s concern should be centered.

But people should not be able to claim they are home schooling when they are just neglecting the child. Or worse.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 6:47:10 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob
The idea is that other adults will notice the marks of beatings, torture and abuse. Or she would mention it to another kid who would tell someone.

As I see it it's amazingly foolish they would go after homeschoolers when the very reason my grand daughters are being home-schooled is because of their fears of abuse in the schools...and the teachers inability to correct the problems when they arise. And this in one of the top schools in our area.

11 posted on 08/09/2011 7:09:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Why are your granddaughters in fear of abuse.


12 posted on 08/09/2011 7:11:43 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: arrogantsob

Because of other student happenings they see in their school. They see the teachers can do little to intervene when situations arise. And they learn of other happenings that aren’t reported to teachers.


13 posted on 08/09/2011 7:38:46 PM PDT by caww
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So nothing has happened to them.

Even where I live, Chicago, most “events” are the same kind that happened in my schools fifty years ago. My kids had no problems in their schools and both turned out to be terrific men.


14 posted on 08/09/2011 8:56:57 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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But people should not be able to claim they are home schooling when they are just neglecting the child. Or worse.
Government schools are run by people who think they care about the children. But present a schoolteacher or administrator with the bill for a single semester of college tuition, and see how fast they backpedal from any thought of actually being committed to that child. But long before it comes time for college, a child's education is critically dependent on parental support of the child's education and educators. So a child lacking in home support won't come out of school with much of an education in any event.

Sending a child to government school is the path of least resistance for the parent. So homeschooling isn't neglect but its opposite. It is the maximum parental involvement in the child's education.

Yes indeed, any incident of child abuse to anything like the extent of the worst examples is a horror. But preventing the people who are most responsible for the way a child turns out from having the authority to educate that child is also an abuse. And make no mistake, no other adult can be relied on more than the child's own family. "Child Protective Services" is a desperate gamble for a child, and only appropriate when you are sure that the child has no protector at home. Which brings us, of course, to the issue of the single-parent family, and the live-in boyfriend . . .
And the sabotaging of the place of the father in the family.

15 posted on 08/10/2011 2:34:33 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: arrogantsob
I don't call police officers patrolling ‘inside’ schools today 24/7 the norm of fifty years ago...does that in itself not make a bold statement? They would not be there unless their were issues to attend to often enough to warrant their presence daily.

Fifty years ago it was more than rare to see in officer in our schools. And no the events today are different in that the students are certainly of another mindset toward authorities than fifty years ago...as well as their behavior when they are caught. Also students game the system to get each other in trouble.

16 posted on 08/10/2011 6:29:01 AM PDT by caww
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The most dangerous person in a child's life is the mom's boyfriend. If the powers that be are really interested in preventing abuse, that is where they should focus, on families where mom and dad are not together and there is a live-in-boyfriend. But that is not the goal here, it is to make homeschooling more difficult. The government types don't like not having access to our children and the dollars they get from having their bottoms in seats in the government schools.

I'm starting my last year of homeschooling and I live in FL. Thankfully I'll be finished before they can start forcing me to deal with DCF.

17 posted on 08/10/2011 6:50:56 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: arrogantsob

So because nothing happened to your sons (who are now adults) you think that schools are just fine? That is truly naive.


18 posted on 08/10/2011 8:10:27 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Yes, we know the drill. Something horrible happens involving a homeschooling family and immediately all homeschoolers must be investigated.

Meanwhile, horrible things happen in the public schools day after day and nothing is ever done about it.

The double standard could not be more obvious.
19 posted on 08/10/2011 8:39:11 AM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I didn’t say that. However, the fears expressed around here are completely overblown.


20 posted on 08/10/2011 10:03:30 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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