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London Riots Put Spotlight on Troubled, Unemployed Youths in Britain [Liberal 'Logic' Alert]
New York Times ^ | August 9, 2011 | LANDON THOMAS Jr. and RAVI SOMAIYA

Posted on 08/09/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by annie laurie

LONDON — “I came here to get my penny’s worth,” said a man who gave his name as Louis James, 19, a slightly built participant in the widening riots that have shaken London to its core. With a touch of guilt on Tuesday, Mr. James showed off what he described as a $195 designer sweater that he said he looted in Camden Town, a gentrified area of north London.

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In many ways, Mr. James’s circumstances are typical. He lives in a government-subsidized apartment in northern London and receives $125 in jobless benefits every two weeks, even though he says he has largely given up looking for work. He says he has never had a proper job and learned to read only three years ago. His mother can barely support herself and his stepbrothers and sisters. His father, who was a heroin addict, is dead.

He says he has been in and out of too many schools to count and left the educational system for good when he was 15.

“No one has ever given me a chance; I am just angry at how the whole system works,” Mr. James said. He would like to get a job at a retail store, but admits that he spends most days watching television and just trying to get by. “That is the way they want it,” he said, without specifying exactly who “they” were. “They give me just enough money so that I can eat and watch TV all day. I don’t even pay my bills anymore.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: formerlygreatbritain; london; oncegreatbritain; riots; uk; welfarestate
First, there is this: "He says he has been in and out of too many schools to count and left the educational system for good when he was 15." So, he was given the opportunity for a free education and squandered it, but "no one has ever given him a chance". Right.

And of course there is NO connection at all between these two statements:

"He says he has been in and out of too many schools to count and left the educational system for good when he was 15."

... and ...

"He says he has never had a proper job and learned to read only three years ago."

Nope. No connection there.

And then, "He would like to get a job at a retail store, but admits that he spends most days watching television and just trying to get by." Hint to liberal readers: job offers don't jump out of the TV set and into your lap. You'll have to actually go in search of one.

Liberal 'logic' at its finest.

1 posted on 08/09/2011 7:30:22 PM PDT by annie laurie
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To: annie laurie
The common argument that crime is caused by poverty is a kind of slander on the poor.

H.L. Mencken

2 posted on 08/09/2011 7:34:27 PM PDT by Huck
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To: annie laurie

And it’s the so-called rich store owners that provide the jobs these idiots are burning out.


3 posted on 08/09/2011 7:35:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: annie laurie

Louis James will be identified and toe tagged on a morgue slab soon - I hope!


4 posted on 08/09/2011 7:35:01 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: annie laurie

Liberals in GB have gotten EVERYTHING they wanted for the past 60 years. Why should they expect anything different?


5 posted on 08/09/2011 7:35:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: annie laurie

I guess their generous welfare system just isn’t enough?

lol


6 posted on 08/09/2011 7:36:09 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: annie laurie
They give me just enough money so that I can eat and watch TV all day. I don’t even pay my bills anymore.”

It gets worse, try working and not being able to pay your bills, as the price of everything except their wages, skyrockets beyond income.

7 posted on 08/09/2011 7:37:21 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: annie laurie

The liberals over there have run that nation into the ground.

And now, it’s everyone else’s fault?

Don’t laugh too hard, our Ruling Class here in America thinks the same way (calling us “hobbits” and what not.)


8 posted on 08/09/2011 7:37:46 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: annie laurie
Marxists are on the move world wide. Wake up world!
9 posted on 08/09/2011 7:39:59 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: annie laurie

The only words I can find to say about the British riots “depressing” and “predictable”.

As has been noted in a lot of other recent posts, Britain has abdicated so much to the leftist feel-goodies that they have in place an entire generation of people who have no sense of responsibility, no work ethic, no sense of values, no moral compass and no respect for anyone who does.

They do, however, have appetites and a sense that it is everyone’s responsibility to make sure those appetites are satisfied.

I honestly don’t think Britain can be saved at this point. I am not even sure America can be.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 7:42:12 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: annie laurie

Unfortunately, a TV set doesn’t jump into your lap, either. You have to smash a few windows and steal one or two during a riot.

And the reason you steal isn’t your fault. You are frustrated and angry about how unfairly you have been treated.


11 posted on 08/09/2011 7:42:14 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: annie laurie

I can see a “retailer” interviewing this idiot. He sees his name and says “You’re the guy who admitted to stealing a sweater. In retail we have a big problem with shop lifting. We can’t hire thieves to help them. Have a nice day.”


12 posted on 08/09/2011 7:42:31 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: dragnet2

Just think, your taxes are probably paying for a bum like this one (and many more).


13 posted on 08/09/2011 7:46:27 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: annie laurie

Enoch Powell knew this was going to happen when he gave his “Rivers of Blood” speech many years ago. He warned about unchecked immigration from African, Caribbean and Orientals.

The blood hasn’t risen to rivers yet but it is on the way.

Did the British heed his warning? Of course not. They attacked him in every way the could. Powell was one of the most brilliant men in Britain but they paid no heed.


14 posted on 08/09/2011 7:46:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: annie laurie

I place more blame on the general population that voted in the politics that bred these soles.


15 posted on 08/09/2011 7:51:36 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: dhs12345
Their not my taxes, I'm just forced by government to pay *their* taxes. Maybe things will get bad enough, where most people won't be able to afford to pay them. In fact, it's getting to that point.

Then watch the fun begin.

16 posted on 08/09/2011 7:54:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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17 posted on 08/09/2011 7:56:06 PM PDT by RedMDer (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: annie laurie

The guy is a thief, plain and simple. Why candy coat it.

The idiot dropped out of school and now he cannot find a job at a retail outlet because he cannot count or read.

He has no job record ,because he has never worked and never intends to.

The Government should have him out digging ditch’s or picking up trash before they give him that welfare check./


18 posted on 08/09/2011 8:12:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: annie laurie

Free education, free health care, free this, free that. He’s right. He’s never had a chance… to stand on his own two feet!


19 posted on 08/09/2011 8:20:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (the circular firing squad has got to end now)
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To: dragnet2

Tax the Rich

Feed the Poor

Til there are

Rich no more.

Ten years after...


20 posted on 08/09/2011 8:24:06 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: dragnet2

Yup. It is happening now.

Both the Democrats and the people on welfare will not be happy when there is no more money.


21 posted on 08/09/2011 8:24:47 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: annie laurie
Isn't it strange how this guy, who has never worked or bothered to educate himself, feels entitled to other people's money--& property, like designer clothing.

Notice they never go after essentials, like food? I might have been more sympathetic had I seen people starving.

Does socialism breed moral relativism? Apparently anyone can rationalize the need to loot.

22 posted on 08/09/2011 8:26:42 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: dhs12345

An awful lot of people are going to die before this gets better. And it hasn’t even really started here.

And I am amazed because it has been on helluva hot summer.


23 posted on 08/09/2011 8:29:16 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ("Will No One Rid US of This Meddlesome Priest?")
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To: annie laurie
In many ways, Mr. James’s circumstances are typical. He lives in a government-subsidized apartment in northern London and receives $125 in jobless benefits every two weeks, even though he says he has largely given up looking for work. He says he has never had a proper job and learned to read only three years ago. His mother can barely support herself and his stepbrothers and sisters. His father, who was a heroin addict, is dead.

IMHO, this explains the problem. The stupid and lazy people have been paid to breed for to long. They now outnumber us.

24 posted on 08/09/2011 8:41:52 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: SkyDancer
And it’s the so-called rich store owners that provide the jobs these idiots are burning out.

My first real job was sweeping floors in small stores on a retail strip. I was 14. It never occurred to me to burn it down. I was proud to earn my money thru my own labor. Previously had done odd jobs like selling newspapers and mowing lawns at a younger age. Those black yobs are lazy demons.

25 posted on 08/09/2011 8:42:50 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: annie laurie

Why do news stories like this focus on the “poor” looting criminal. What about the hard working shop keeper who lost everthing to these “yobs?”


26 posted on 08/09/2011 8:51:28 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Ronin
"I honestly don’t think Britain can be saved at this point. I am not even sure America can be."

It's depressing -- I know.

Personally, I think Britain and America have been wrecked so badly by liberals and their communist collaborators that we've reached the point of no return. Now it's just an ever quickening spiral around the drain.

27 posted on 08/09/2011 9:02:53 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: GeronL

Street rabble is as street rabble does.


28 posted on 08/09/2011 9:33:27 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: yarddog

"See, I told you so."

29 posted on 08/09/2011 9:42:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: StormEye

I see high school and college kids now and they really think there is global warming, that abortion, healthcare and jobs are a right and that Obama is cool.

They have been so innundated since Kindergarten that the US is bad and the Marxists are good, that they know no better.


30 posted on 08/09/2011 10:17:50 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: annie laurie

I hope the purpose of the spotlight is to allow snipers to identify and neutralize targets.

Need to start shooting looters on sight, especially if they are also involved in arson. Survivors can be prosecuted.


31 posted on 08/10/2011 12:11:03 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: Huck

Agreed. A lot of people were flat broke “no boot to pour piss out of” in the 1930’s and they didn’t turn to crime.


32 posted on 08/10/2011 12:41:35 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: annie laurie

The guy in the story should be used as an organ donor for those that want opportunity.


33 posted on 08/10/2011 1:06:35 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: annie laurie

Sounds Like a Typical Obama supporter here in the Good Old USA


34 posted on 08/10/2011 4:11:11 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Vermont Lt

And it hasn’t even really started here.


Maybe because our cops carry real guns and would probably use them if things became desperate enough.


35 posted on 08/10/2011 6:22:28 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: New Jersey Realist

Not only the cops carry guns.

Plus, at least in the Eastern US, the people that would be marauding are physically distant from the suburban stores. They would have to walk ten miles to get to my neighborhood.

And, if they went to the place where the stores are: The malls, it would take some sort of massive transportation.

So, if they want to burn their neighborhoods, have at it. They would be met with fierce resistance if they stepped out of their world, into the ‘hoods right next door.

But, I can envision riots in the large cities (NYC, Philly, DC.)


36 posted on 08/10/2011 8:09:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt ("Will No One Rid US of This Meddlesome Priest?")
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To: Zeneta

Don’t forget the rest !

I’d love to change the world...

But I don’t know what to do...

So I’m leavin’ it up...

To you.

Ten Years After


37 posted on 08/10/2011 9:52:17 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Vermont Lt

I really hope that you are wrong. And call me foolish, but it will take a lot for people to drop to that level.

Then again, I remember the LA riots and Katrina. Complete anarchy and in a very short period of time.

Do you have any predictions?


38 posted on 08/10/2011 4:24:40 PM PDT by dhs12345
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