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States rush to leave No Child law behind
Washington Times ^ | 9:40 p.m., Tuesday, August 9, 2011 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 08/10/2011 6:02:20 AM PDT by Pan_Yan

States are rushing for the No Child Left Behind exit door.

Within hours of Education Secretary Arne Duncan’s announcement Monday that he will grant waivers from federal mandates, several states announced that they would apply for relief. Many others are expressing interest, pending the release of more details next month.

Tennessee didn’t wait for Mr. Duncan’s news conference: The state sent its waiver request two weeks ago.

The mad dash to escape high-stakes testing and gain more flexibility represents “a sense of desperation” among states, said Dan Domenech, executive director of the American Association of School Administrators.

“There’s no question that school districts and the states themselves are looking for anything that will provide a break,” he told The Washington Times on Tuesday, adding that states and school leaders are taking a “we’ll do whatever it is you want us to do” attitude toward Mr. Duncan’s waiver proposal.

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The mystery surrounding the details of the plan doesn’t appear to be deterring states.

Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton announced Monday, while the ink was still drying on the transcript of Mr. Duncan’s announcement, that his state will take part in the waiver program.

He said in a statement that No Child Left Behind “has harmed, not improved, the quality of students’ learning experiences,” and he will gladly accept an escape route.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arneduncan; dandomenech; dayton; education; markdayton; nclb; nochildleftbehind; publicschools; schools; standardizedtesting
The mystery surrounding the details of the plan doesn’t appear to be deterring states.

I wonder what little goodies the Administration has tucked in there. As much as everyone hates NCLB the governors better read what they're signing very, very carefully.

1 posted on 08/10/2011 6:02:30 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan

All part of Arne’s “Creating Leftist Morons One Child At A Time” program.


2 posted on 08/10/2011 6:04:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Unions vs. Accountability. Where have we ever heard that before?


3 posted on 08/10/2011 6:06:07 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Dems at the state level made sure that the money never made it to the schools, so Bush would never get credit for helping education.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 6:08:56 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Pan_Yan

The States that apply for Waivers are admitting that they cannot teach the children.


5 posted on 08/10/2011 6:09:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pan_Yan
If the government gave a blanket waiver to everything ever said or done by the Dept of Education, Energy, EPA, DHS, USDA, etc. I think we'd see this country really take off.

Government is the problem. Everyone wants a waiver. Everyone wants to be free from the repression and the regulations.

Let my people go.

6 posted on 08/10/2011 6:10:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Venturer

Or they are tired of “teaching to the test”. Also standardized tests tend to expose glaring truth that we are trying hard to ignore.


7 posted on 08/10/2011 6:13:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Since DOE is staffed to manage NCLB they should lose funding for at least 100 employees for every state granted a waiver. No program to manage... no job.


8 posted on 08/10/2011 6:14:32 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Pan_Yan
An example of Obama desperately shoring up the most faithful of his supporters...the teachers' unions.

Until the debt debacle, he and Arne Duncan supported testing.

Now that his poll numbers are plummeting, Obama has changed his position. No surprise.

9 posted on 08/10/2011 6:15:40 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Pan_Yan

Ah, the legacy of Ted Kennedy! I bet the news articles are full of the fact that this was Kennedy’s bill, passed in a “bipartisan” way!


10 posted on 08/10/2011 6:17:27 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Pan_Yan

States trying to protect the incompetence of affirmative action. Giving college students open book tests, gives you the sorry state of education.


11 posted on 08/10/2011 6:17:59 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Venturer

Or maybe that top down centralized planning and a one size fits none approach not only fails in politics and economics, but also in education.

Remember, one of the real goals that educrats are failing at include “closing the gap”....i.e. equal outcomes for all demographic groups. They have dumbed down the system and called it “excellence in education”.


12 posted on 08/10/2011 6:19:59 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: DBrow
(crickets) Chirp. Chirp.
13 posted on 08/10/2011 6:22:47 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: RedEyeJack
No program to manage... no job.

From what I've read, and it's all very obscure, this is not a waiver from the whole program, only certain requirements. And it comes with strings.

14 posted on 08/10/2011 6:24:18 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: ClearCase_guy

If every state can have a waiver then why bother with the department of education?


15 posted on 08/10/2011 6:45:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pan_Yan
Most cite unrealistic expectations of No Child Left Behind as their motivation. The law calls for 100 percent of students to be proficient in reading and mathematics by 2014, a goal widely viewed as unattainable.

'Unrealistic expectations'?

How can mathematics, i.e.: adding 150 + 25, or multiplying 12 x 12 be "Unrealistic"?

Ditto for reading:

"See Spot run. See Jane chase Spot. See Billy chase Jane."
"See Jane's father get his shotgun. See Billy marry Jane."
Is that an unrealistic expectation?
(Maybe to Billy, but not for Jane's father )

'Series'. They only have to 'proficient'. Not solve the Grand Unification Theory in Physics. Or write a tome like War and Peace. So really, what's the big deal?

16 posted on 08/10/2011 6:57:04 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: G Larry

The Bush/Kennedy NCLB law was designed to beef up state education bureacracies.

Another way of looking at it would be to say “NCLB is a really good idea, but we just don’t have the right people implementing it yet. Once we have the right person, group, or whatever in charge then our situation will improve.”

I wholeheartedly reject this argument.

The NCLB still leaves education reform and decision making in the hands of the very same people that have created the mess.


17 posted on 08/10/2011 7:02:57 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: Condor51

So we can’t achieve what Cuba constantly brags about? lol Maybe not enough sugarcane in our diet?


18 posted on 08/10/2011 7:08:16 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: paint_your_wagon
Or maybe that top down centralized planning and a one size fits none approach not only fails in politics and economics, but also in education.

Exactly. This is a good thing. They should not be dictating what should be done at the local level. We need to go back to local school boards having leverage as opposed to the State and Federal government. If you're whining about local school boards being leftist, do something about it. Increased government intrusion in education is one of the prime factors that created its shoddy conditions today. Break the government stranglehold, break the unions, and you'll start to see real improvement.
19 posted on 08/10/2011 7:27:47 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DBrow

Absolutely not. I have talked to a dozen teachers who do not give Ted the credit. They either do not know or they deny it. Accountability is not part of their values, I specifically mean accountability for themselves. I admit they have shoddy material to stRt with sometimes. Children are in serious trouble directly Ttributed to liberal family values and the attack on families and faith. Until that is fixed you can educate them for 60 years and they will struggle to survive.


20 posted on 08/10/2011 8:01:11 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: Pan_Yan

This is a good thing. Several years ago I predicted that we’d gradually move away from this kind of “command and control” educational thinking. Schooling ought not to be primarily all about scoring high on math and reading tests.


21 posted on 08/10/2011 8:10:36 AM PDT by sand lake bar (This bag may be used as a toy)
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To: sand lake bar

Pray tell, if math and reading aren’t important to schooling what is?


22 posted on 08/10/2011 8:46:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (an expired "Bush tax cut" is really an Obama Tax Increase.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Within hours of Education Secretary Arne Duncan’s announcement Monday that he will grant waivers from federal mandates,

Can we get waivers from federal mandates other than those dealing with education?
23 posted on 08/10/2011 8:47:37 AM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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To: Pan_Yan; All
I don't hate NCLB. I hate the corruption going on in Atlanta and elsewhere. Since the FAILING "education professionals" are against it, it can't be a bad idea.

What's been bad is the testing methodology. There should be zero opportunity for malfeasance. Private schools widely participate in standardized testing, why should incompetent, inept public schools get a pass?

We accept standardized testing for college entry, for grad school entry, for certifications, advancement and skills verification on the job… WHY is it illegitimate for benchmarking the quality of primary and secondary public education?

24 posted on 08/10/2011 8:52:45 AM PDT by newzjunkey (an expired "Bush tax cut" is really an Obama Tax Increase.)
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To: DarkSavant

The only real solution is to get government out of education altogether. If government had been in charge of transportation, we would still be riding horses.


25 posted on 08/10/2011 8:57:37 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: paint_your_wagon

yep...talked to one vice-principal who seemed to think Bush should have brought cash to her.....


26 posted on 08/10/2011 9:15:38 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: newzjunkey

“Schooling ought not to be primarily all about scoring high on math and reading tests.”

That statement does not mean that math and reading are not important. Let parents decide just how far and in which directions their own children need to be educated. Having the government come in and make those decisions is failing miserably before our eyes.

Some parents expect high academic achievement in certain areas; some parents are satisfied with having their kids read and write at some minimal standard...but really want their children to excell in some kind of sports activity. I know one family that takes every opportunity to teach their kids about hunting, fishing, and processing game, and they occaisonally take their boys out of class to do it.

You will promote high levels of acheivement across the board if parents had more of an opportunity to define what education should be for their own children.

I’m in Texas, where high school football is a big deal.

Imagine what high school football would be like if everyone, regardless of interest or ability, were forced to participate at some arbitrarily defined ‘high level’...that’s what we are currently experiencing in our academic programs.


27 posted on 08/10/2011 9:18:06 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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To: newzjunkey

“Pray tell, if math and reading aren’t important to schooling what is?”

Is that what I said, pray tell? Read it again, please.


28 posted on 08/10/2011 9:24:41 AM PDT by sand lake bar (This bag may be used as a toy)
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To: paint_your_wagon

You are right they are closing the gap-—the wrong way.

They are closing it by dumbing down, instead of wising up.


29 posted on 08/10/2011 9:32:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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