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Police: No hate crimes in these State Fair arrests
pioneer press ^ | 8-10-11 | ap

Posted on 08/10/2011 8:19:46 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

WEST ALLIS, Wis.—West Allis police are releasing new details about some arrests on the opening night of the Wisconsin State Fair, but say none of those incidents possessed elements that would prompt their prosecution as hate crimes. WTMJ-AM reports ( http://bit.ly/roRWMr) the Police Department issued a statement Tuesday with new information about a handful of the more than two dozen arrests made last week

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: beatings; cheesecurds; fair; hate; holder; race; whitey
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1 posted on 08/10/2011 8:19:52 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

They were celebrating EARLY on the expected DEM wins in the recall elections..


2 posted on 08/10/2011 8:21:08 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO! But he should WALK 3 miles every day..)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

So black mobs suckerpunching white people is the new “niceness”?


3 posted on 08/10/2011 8:22:26 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Well, it could just be an unbelievable coincidence.

Swallowing that is easier than giving up my flawed world view.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 8:22:40 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: P.O.E.

“Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.”
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/126828998.html
nothing to see here. move along now.


5 posted on 08/10/2011 8:22:52 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It would be a hate crime if the victims fought back.


6 posted on 08/10/2011 8:24:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I just wonder how long whites are going to continue to complacently go along with the offical BS about this type of stuff


7 posted on 08/10/2011 8:26:17 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It’s just another form of collecting reparations. Blacks can’t be haters or racist, weren’t you aware of that?

Punch whitey so you can release some of them negative vibes man! Release the pent up anger at whitey for keeping you down all these years.

This country has gone to hell and it won’t be long until some folks just start shooting.


8 posted on 08/10/2011 8:27:41 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: P.O.E.
So black mobs suckerpunching white people is the new “niceness”?

To borrow a phrase from the financial commentators, it's the "new normal."

9 posted on 08/10/2011 8:27:41 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SkyDancer

that’s why concealed carry is needed everywhere;no place is safe from the thugs unless the good people make it safe.


10 posted on 08/10/2011 8:28:05 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Must have all been black on white crime, which by definition cannot be a hate crime.


11 posted on 08/10/2011 8:28:17 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
“Then around the closing time of 11 p.m., witnesses told the Journal Sentinel, dozens to hundreds of black youths attacked white people as they left the fair, punching and kicking people and shaking and pounding on their vehicles.”

I've seen that kind of reaction in the monkey cage at the zoo when it's banana time.
12 posted on 08/10/2011 8:29:26 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It wasn’t hate.....they were just following orders.


13 posted on 08/10/2011 8:30:13 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SkyDancer

You got that right.

That could be part of why these mobs can run wild. People could be genuinely afraid that if they touch a member of a protected minority group in some kind of altercation, that they will be charged with the hate crime. It doesn’t matter who starts it or if you are defending yourself, because the fact that blacks are a protected class in the law will override all other considerations.

In this case, it was found to be impossible for a black person to commit a hate crime against a white person, so that’s why there are no hate crime charges involved.


14 posted on 08/10/2011 8:31:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: WOBBLY BOB

A more concrete example of “Complete Bull Obama” existeth not.


15 posted on 08/10/2011 8:31:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Beating on whitey and ONLY whitey.. Of course that isn’t a hate crime! Picking whitey out of the crowd and pummeling him and leaving the people of color in the crowd alone.. Not a hate crime at all!. It’s what the libs call ‘social justice’.. Un-Freakin- Believable!


16 posted on 08/10/2011 8:32:10 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: P.O.E.
A few years ago, I heard someone trying to explain “hate crimes.” He said that if the violence preceded the taunting, it isn't a hate crime. However, if verbal abuse came before the violence, it is a hate crime. Ridiculous!
17 posted on 08/10/2011 8:32:56 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“Hate Crimes” are thought-crime BS, anyway. There should be no such thing as a Hate Crime.

I’d settle for felony assault and battery charges.


18 posted on 08/10/2011 8:32:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: P.O.E.
A few years ago, I heard someone trying to explain “hate crimes.” He said that if the violence preceded the taunting, it isn't a hate crime. However, if verbal abuse came before the violence, it is a hate crime. Ridiculous!
19 posted on 08/10/2011 8:33:08 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Are you effing kidding me?!

No racial element to this? No hate crime?

I know our Constitution is viewed as archaic in some public service circles, but “equal protection under the law” is something that is a core tenant.

Without it, we’re doomed. Societal suicide by political “correctness”.

(Now where’s that number for Cheaper than Dirt...?)


20 posted on 08/10/2011 8:34:43 AM PDT by Tigerized
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To: WOBBLY BOB
According to the law, as written for the State of Wisconsin:

939.645(1)(b) (b) Intentionally selects the person against whom the crime under par. (a) is committed or selects the property that is damaged or otherwise affected by the crime under par. (a) in whole or in part because of the actor's belief or perception regarding the race, religion, color, disability, sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry of that person or the owner or occupant of that property, whether or not the actor's belief or perception was correct.
Source

I'm thinking I would sue the state for discrimination under the equal protection clause.

21 posted on 08/10/2011 8:35:23 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: P.O.E.

“So black mobs suckerpunching white people is the new “niceness”?”

They must have been “love taps”. (Sarcasm added)


22 posted on 08/10/2011 8:35:59 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Hey, Erick Holder is in charge of the main office....so don’t bother him with these Black hooligans, hate crimes don’t pertain to them....just whites and smearing homosexuals fall under the ‘hate crime’ venue.


23 posted on 08/10/2011 8:36:15 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Little Ray
YES! What you said....it's NOT a "hate" crime....IT's a CRIME (assault & battery) and needs to be prosecuted as such
24 posted on 08/10/2011 8:36:36 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I am guessing these local ‘leaders’ can look right past the constitutional guarantee that no person or class of persons shall be denied the same protection of the laws that is enjoyed by other persons or other classes in like circumstances in their lives, liberty, property, and pursuit of happiness ... or fair-going.

From the oft-cited 14th Amendment — “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

To the ‘authorities’ in MKE - EQUAL protection of the laws is not optional or even hinted to be subjective.


25 posted on 08/10/2011 8:36:36 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SkyDancer

It will be.

And this is why I think these incidents are encouraged and instigated by the left. These mobs of black teens are the perfect proxy army for the left.
They can beat up on the left’s enemies with impunity.
Any that get caught will be protected by the media and state.
Anyone that fights back will be punished by the media and state.

Meanwhile, the left keeps their collective hands clean.


26 posted on 08/10/2011 8:37:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The cops are liars, no other possible explanation.


27 posted on 08/10/2011 8:37:22 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Proxy Army” of the left.


28 posted on 08/10/2011 8:38:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: P.O.E.

Don’t you know that is how they say hello in the WI ghettos? Really, do I have to explain this to everyone? /SARC


29 posted on 08/10/2011 8:38:24 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Altura Ct.

Take a look at this if you haven’t seen it.


30 posted on 08/10/2011 8:38:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Tigerized

http://www.bulkammo.com


31 posted on 08/10/2011 8:39:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: WOBBLY BOB; Pearls Before Swine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2761641/posts

London Riots: Middle-Aged Man Fights For Life After Being Beaten For Confronting Rioters

“The attack was witnessed by a lone police officer who could do nothing but wait for his colleagues to arrive. “

......

Sad commentary, indeed.


32 posted on 08/10/2011 8:40:06 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Little Ray

I concur. But if we’re going to have thought crimes shoved down our collective throats, it should be a knife that cuts both ways.


33 posted on 08/10/2011 8:40:47 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: LottieDah

The new “civility” .


34 posted on 08/10/2011 8:43:39 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Little Ray

I agree, however, it’s imperative that we shove this PC BS right back down their throats and make them live by the same “rules”(that they created) as well.

Until we can get a sea change in attitude anyway. (not holding my breath)

It’s almost like the blacks lost at the Whack-a-Mole game and decided to try their luck in the parking lot.


35 posted on 08/10/2011 8:45:20 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Proving conclusively that hate crime laws are as bigoted and unconstitutional as Jim Crow laws, and need to be challenged as such.

Courts must realize, as they did with the death penalty, that if they law is fairly written, but unfairly enforced, as in the death penalty in circumstances where a black defendant would get death and a white defendant would get life for essentially the same crime, then the law is unconstitutional.

The simple statistical proof would be to show the court how many hate crime charges have been brought against white defendants, compared to how many have been brought against black defendants.

Then to ask the court to rule either that the law is unconstitutional, or, as some advocates openly state, that black people, no matter what they do, or how they do it, do not and *cannot* violate the hate crime laws.


36 posted on 08/10/2011 8:46:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: crosshairs
...If your driving and you see a gang of youths, molotov cocktails, clubs in hand, STEP ON THE FOOKIN' GAS!!! They're on foot, your in a car!!!
37 posted on 08/10/2011 8:46:36 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It does.

Dunno what the stats look like under the Holder Just-Us Department, but, since Thought Crime legislation was introduced, more blacks have been charged for “Hate Crimes” than whites.

I just hate the entire Thought Crime concept. A crime is a crime. Your motive is irrelevant.


38 posted on 08/10/2011 8:47:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Altura Ct.

So far, all law abiding people have done is move farther out into the suburbs. Welcome to the BHO new era of racial harmony. Mmm, mmm, mmm


39 posted on 08/10/2011 8:50:10 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The truly amazing thing is that none of these victims took any personal responsibility for their own safety. I hate to say it but they were asking for it and they got it.


40 posted on 08/10/2011 8:53:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Also, here is a crime that would not rise to the level of a hate crime in MKE, either. ( wink wink )

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8692455/London-riots-middle-aged-man-fights-for-life-after-being-beaten-for-confronting-rioters.html


41 posted on 08/10/2011 8:54:55 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Truthfully, the Police Department are being quite charitable in not charging those reporting the alleged assaults with hate crimes. Those reporting the crimes are obviously racists since they noticed the alleged attackers are black and the alleged victims are white.


42 posted on 08/10/2011 8:56:54 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: P.O.E.

I was too slow posting. I saw the same article.


43 posted on 08/10/2011 9:04:35 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I don’t believe in the concept of add-on charges for ‘hate crimes’... Assault is assault , a ‘stomping’ hurts the same no matter the skin color or sexual proclivities of the attacker / attackee.

But since the law is on the books, this was as pure an example of ‘hate crimes’ as any have ever been.


44 posted on 08/10/2011 9:13:44 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Remeber “Get Whitey?”


45 posted on 08/10/2011 9:20:18 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Common sense although common knowledge is seldom common practice.)
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To: wastoute

does the WI fair allow lawful concealed carry?

if not, what do you think would happen if they retaliated, even if in self-defense?

IMHO, they’d go to jail, and the thugs would go free.And
Bullhorn Sharpton would be there to stir the pot.


46 posted on 08/10/2011 9:21:39 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Whites are the new Jews.


47 posted on 08/10/2011 9:22:24 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

In the minds of our twisted justice officials it’s a hate crime just to BE white.


48 posted on 08/10/2011 9:25:42 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: WOBBLY BOB

More evidence that “hate crimes” are a racist weapon against whites.


49 posted on 08/10/2011 9:26:49 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: razorback-bert

they were just showing those evil rich “who’s boss” like these broads in London:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2761164/posts


50 posted on 08/10/2011 9:27:55 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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