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California tax revenue plummets in July, raising fear of trigger cuts
latimes.com ^ | 8/10/2011 | Michael J. Mishak

Posted on 08/10/2011 10:52:13 AM PDT by dragnet2

July income was $539 million lower than expected, leading many to doubt the state budget's assumption of economic recovery and a $4-billion windfall. If revenues remain low, drastic education cuts will kick in.

California's tax revenue plummeted in July, missing expectations by nearly $539 million and raising fears that deep education cuts will be needed to keep the state budget balanced.

The plunge occurred before the recent Wall Street gyrations that wiped away many of the year's stock-market gains. If the economy remains sluggish and the $4 billion does not materialize, cuts in public schools, universities, libraries, child care, and services for the elderly and frail will automatically take effect.

"Every drop in revenues puts us closer to the drastic trigger cuts that could be imposed next year," state Controller John Chiang said

In Washington on Tuesday, the Federal Reserve sharply downgraded its outlook for the American economy

California's education cuts will kick in if finance officials determine revenue to be $2 billion or more below expectations as of December. If enacted, the $1.5 billion in school reductions could shrink the academic year by as many as seven days in some districts.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca; corruption; democrats; govtabuse; liberalfascism; liberals; progressives; socialism; taxcheatparty; taxes; unionpensions; unions
No more money eh?

What a pity for the government employees.

These obese control freaks haven't seen anything yet.

They're just now figuring out the tax payers are broke and beat down by their criminally corrupt and mismanaged government?

As they lined their pockets, they couldn't see this coming?

What a bunch of lying AHs.

How many suits up in Sacramento were fired or were forced to take a 60% pay cut, while slashing their tax paid medical benefits and retirement pensions?

The only people with money are the overpaid government employees and government retirees, who are receiving tax paid lottery style government retirement pensions.

How about we tax the s**t out of their government retirement pensions? They got money!

Works for me~

Cut education to the bone?..It's what happens when these traitorous bastards attempt to force the tax payers to pay to education millions from Mexico.

I spit in their faces and hope they all go broke, with their corrupt system cartwheeling down range...

Wait till the tax revenues drop to the point where their isn't enough to pay their bloated government salaries, or the hundreds of thousands receiving government lottery style government retirement pensions.

No more money for them?

This can't happen soon enough!

1 posted on 08/10/2011 10:52:19 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

for later.


2 posted on 08/10/2011 10:55:33 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: dragnet2
If revenues remain low, drastic education cuts will kick in.

Just wait till tests show no difference in student outcomes despite the "drastic cuts." The explanations will be hilarious.

3 posted on 08/10/2011 10:57:04 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: dragnet2
Notice that they make cuts to education first, cuts that affect Americans, while making no mention of turning off the freebies for illegal aliens? They are quick to punish the productive rather than the freeloaders.

Like any drug addict Kalifornia will have to hit rock bottom before they get better. I hope to God that we can keep the feds from bailing them out!

4 posted on 08/10/2011 10:57:58 AM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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To: dragnet2

>> services for the elderly and frail

OK, I know what elderly is... but what is the official criteria that gets one declared “frail”?

Too drunk to go to work? Chronic Laziness Syndrome? WTF?


5 posted on 08/10/2011 10:58:05 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: dragnet2

gosh, that’s a shame, isn’t it?

the state of california drives out business and invites

parasites from abroad in,

and the tax revenues fall.


6 posted on 08/10/2011 10:59:05 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: dragnet2
Stop all payments to illegals, cut pay by 25% of all management bureaucrats, begin offshore drilling and reduce union pensions and benefits. Unfortunately for CA, it'll never happen.
7 posted on 08/10/2011 10:59:39 AM PDT by JPG (Yes She Can!)
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To: dragnet2

Is it time to dump the $10 billion bullet train to nowhere yet?


8 posted on 08/10/2011 11:01:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: dragnet2

I wouldn’t want to live there when the checks stop.


9 posted on 08/10/2011 11:04:13 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: WMarshal

My thoughts exactly. They cut off American kids education long before trimming the fat off the illegals. I bet the Sierra Club
and all the other leftist orgs still get their share of taxpayer output.


10 posted on 08/10/2011 11:04:48 AM PDT by soycd
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To: dragnet2

But if we need more money, we can raise the tax rates, but if we raise the tax rates we will get less money, but if we get less money then we will need more money, but if we need more money we can raise the tax rates, but if we raise the tax rates we will get less money, but if we get less money then we will need more money, but if we need more money we can raise the tax rates,

Error.
Flaw.
Imperfection.
Must sterilize.

Plop!

(Sound of liberal head exploding.)


11 posted on 08/10/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: dragnet2

California tax revenue plummets in July, raising fear of trigger cuts
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They might as well write off the revenues now. This is only the beginning of the revenue shortfalls. Its gonna get way way worse.

Something tells me these “trigger cuts” are a joke...not nearly big enough cuts to amount to anything worth talking about.


12 posted on 08/10/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: JPG
Stop all payments to illegals, cut pay by 25% of all management bureaucrats, begin offshore drilling and reduce union pensions and benefits.

And: Reduce anti-business regulation, reduce taxes, and maybe something might happen. Things are pretty far gone.

13 posted on 08/10/2011 11:05:29 AM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: dragnet2

This List of State of California agencies, departments, and commissions is a partial list of the more than 500[citation needed] California state government agencies, departments, and commissions.

California Access for Infants and Mothers[1]
California Acupuncture Board[1]
California Administrative Office of the Courts
California African American Museum
California Agricultural Labor Relations Board[1]
California Air Resources Board (CARB)
California Alternative Energy and Advanced Transportation Financing Authority[1]
California Animal Health and Food Safety Services[1]
California Apprenticeship Council[1]
California Architects Board[1]
California Arts Council
California Asian Pacific Islander Legislative Caucus[1]
California Athletic Commission[1]
California Bay-Delta Authority[1]
California Biodiversity Council[1]
California Board for Geologists and Geophysicists[1]
California Board for Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors[1]
California Board of Accountancy
California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology[1]
California Board of Behavioral Sciences[1]
California Board of Chiropractic Examiners[1]
California Board of Equalization (BOE)
California Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind[1]
California Board of Occupational Therapy[1]
California Board of Optometry[1]
California Board of Pilot Commissioners (BOPC)[2]
California Building Standards Commission
California Bureau for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education
California Bureau of Automotive Repair
California Bureau of Naturopathic Medicine
California Business, Transportation and Housing Agency
California Coastal Commission
California Coastal Conservancy
California Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST)[3]
California Conservation Corps
California Contractors State License Board
California Council on Criminal Justice
California Courts of Appeal
California Data Exchange Center[citation needed]
California Data Management Division[citation needed]
California Debt and Investment Advisory Commission[citation needed]
California Delta Protection Commission[citation needed]
California Demographic Research Unit[citation needed]
California Dental Auxiliaries[citation needed]
California Department of Aging
California Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs
California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control Appeals Board[citation needed]
California Department of Boating and Waterways (Cal Boating)
California Department of Child Support Services (CDCSS)[citation needed]
California Department of Community Services and Development[citation needed]
California Department of Conservation
California Department of Consumer Affairs
California Department of Corporations[citation needed]
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation
California Department of Developmental Services
California Department of Education
California Department of Fair Employment and Housing
California Department of Finance
California Department of Financial Institutions[citation needed]
California Department of Fish and Game
California Department of Food and Agriculture
California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CDF)
California Department of General Services
California Department of General Services, Office of State Publishing[citation needed]
California Department of General Services, Procurement Division[3]
California Department of General Services, Procurement Division, Office of Small Business and Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Services[3]
California Department of Health Care Services[citation needed]
California Department of Housing and Community Development[citation needed]
California Department of Industrial Relations (DIR)[citation needed]
California Department of Industrial Relations, Office of Self Insurance Plans (SIP)[3]
California Department of Insurance
California Department of Justice
California Department of Justice Firearms Division[citation needed]
California Department of Justice Opinion Unit[citation needed]
California Department of Justice, Consumer Information, Public Inquiry Unit[citation needed]
California Department of Managed Health Care[citation needed]
California Department of Mental Health[citation needed]
California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV)
California Department of Parks and Recreation
California Department of Personnel Administration
California Department of Pesticide Regulation
California Department of Public Health
California Department of Real Estate[citation needed]
California Department of Rehabilitation[citation needed]
California Department of Social Services
California Department of Social Services Adoptions Branch[citation needed]
California Department of Toxic Substances Control
California Department of Transportation (Caltrans)
California Department of Veterans Affairs (CalVets)[citation needed]
California Department of Water Resources
California Digital Library
California Disabled Veteran Business Enterprise Certification Program[citation needed]
California Division of Apprenticeship Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Codes and Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Communicable Disease Control[citation needed]
California Division of Engineering[citation needed]
California Division of Environmental and Occupational Disease Control[citation needed]
California Division of Gambling Control
California Division of Housing Policy Development[citation needed]
California Division of Labor Standards Enforcement[citation needed]
California Division of Labor Statistics and Research[citation needed]
California Division of Land and Right of Way[citation needed]
California Division of Land Resource Protection[citation needed]
California Division of Law Enforcement General Library[citation needed]
California Division of Measurement Standards[citation needed]
California Division of Mines and Geology[citation needed]
California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA)
California Division of Oil, Gas and Geothermal Resources[citation needed]
California Division of Planning and Local Assistance[citation needed]
California Division of Recycling[citation needed]
California Division of Safety of Dams[citation needed]
California Division of the State Architect[citation needed]
California Division of Tourism
California Division of Workers’ Compensation[citation needed]
California Division of Workers’ Compensation Medical Unit[citation needed]
California Economic Strategy Panel[citation needed]
California Education Audit Appeals Panel[citation needed]
California Educational Facilities Authority[citation needed]
California Elections Division[citation needed]
California Electricity Oversight Board[citation needed]
California Emergency Management Agency
California Emergency Medical Services Authority
California Employment Development Department (EDD)
California Employment Training Panel[citation needed]
California Energy Commission
California Environmental Protection Agency (Cal/EPA)
California Export Laboratory Services[citation needed]
California Exposition and State Fair (Cal Expo)
California Fair Political Practices Commission
California Franchise Tax Board (FTB)
California Geological Survey
California Health and Human Services Agency
California High-Speed Rail Authority
California Highway Patrol (CHP)
California Horse Racing Board
California Housing Finance Agency
California Institute for Regenerative Medicine
California Integrated Waste Management Board
California Labor and Workforce Development Agency[citation needed]
California Labor Market Information Division[citation needed]
California Lands Commission[citation needed]
California Landscape Architects Technical Committee[citation needed]
California Latino Legislative Caucus[citation needed]
California Law Enforcement Branch[citation needed]
California Law Enforcement General Library[citation needed]
California Law Revision Commission
California Legislative Analyst’s Office
California Legislative Black Caucus
California Legislative Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender (LGBT) Caucus[citation needed]
California Library Development Services[citation needed]
California License and Revenue Branch[citation needed]
California Managed Risk Medical Insurance Board
California Maritime Academy
California Medical Assistance Commission[citation needed]
California Medical Care Services[citation needed]
California Military Department
California Mining and Geology Board[citation needed]
California Museum for History, Women, and the Arts[citation needed]
California Museum Resource Center[citation needed]
California National Guard
California Native American Heritage Commission[citation needed]
California Natural Community Conservation Planning Program[citation needed]
California Natural Resources Agency
California New Motor Vehicle Board[citation needed]
California Occupational Safety and Health Appeals Board[3]
California Occupational Safety and Health Standards Board[3]
California Office of Administrative Law (OAL)
California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment
California Office of Legislative Counsel
California Office of the Attorney General
California Operations Control Office[citation needed]
California Opinion Unit[citation needed]
California Outreach and Technical Assistance Network (OTAN)[citation needed]
California Park and Recreation Commission[3]
California Physical Therapy Board (PTBC)[2]
California Physician Assistant Committee (PAC)[2]
California Plant Health and Pest Prevention Services[citation needed]
California Policy and Evaluation Division[citation needed]
California Political Reform Division[citation needed]
California Pollution Control Financing Authority[citation needed]
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
California Postsecondary Education Commission[3]
California Primary Care and Family Health[citation needed]
California Prison Industry Authority (CALPIA)[2]
California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS)[2]
California Public Employment Relations Board (PERB)[2]
California Public Utilities Commission (PUC)[3]
California Real Estate Services Division[citation needed]
California Refugee Programs Branch[citation needed]
California Regional Water Quality Control Boards[citation needed]
California Registered Veterinary Technician Committee[citation needed]
California Registry of Charitable Trusts[3]
California Research and Development Division[citation needed]
California Research Bureau[3]
California Respiratory Care Board (RCP)[3]
California Rural Health Policy Council[citation needed]
California San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission[citation needed]
California San Gabriel and Lower Los Angeles Rivers and Mountains Conservancy[citation needed]
California San Joaquin River Conservancy[citation needed]
California Science Center
California Secretary of State’s Office
California Seismic Safety Commission[3]
California Small Business Development Centers (SBDC)[3]
California State and Consumer Services Agency
California State Assembly
California State Assembly Democratic Caucus[1]
California State Assembly Republican Caucus[1]
California State Board of Education
California State Controller’s Office
California State Lands Commission
California State Legislature
California State Library
California State Lottery
California State Personnel Board
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
California State Railroad Museum
California State Senate
California State Senate Democratic Caucus[citation needed]
California State Senate Republican Caucus[citation needed]
California State Summer School for Mathematics and Science (COSMOS)
California State Summer School for the Arts
California State Superintendent of Public Instruction’s Office
California State Teachers’ Retirement System (CalSTRS)
California State Treasurer’s Office
California State University (CSU)
California State University, Bakersfield
California State University, Channel Islands
California State University, Chico
California State University, Dominguez Hills
California State University, East Bay
California State University, Fresno
California State University, Fullerton
California State University, Long Beach
California State University, Los Angeles
California State University, Monterey Bay
California State University, Northridge
California State University, Sacramento
California State University, San Bernardino
California State University, San Marcos
California State University, Stanislaus
California State Water Resources Control Board
California Superior Courts
California Technology Agency (CTA)
California Technology Agency, Office of Technology Services
California Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board
CaliforniaVolunteers
California Youth Authority (CYA)
Humboldt State University
Judicial Council of California
Little Hoover Commission (LHC)
Medical Board of California
Regents of the University of California
San Diego State University
San Francisco State University
San José State University
Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy
State Bar of California
Supreme Court of California
University of California
University of California, Berkeley
University of California, Davis
University of California, Hastings College of the Law
University of California, Irvine
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Merced
University of California, Riverside
University of California, San Diego
University of California, San Francisco
University of California, Santa Barbara
University of California, Santa Cruz


14 posted on 08/10/2011 11:05:40 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Jim Robinson
Is it time to dump the $10 billion bullet train to nowhere yet?

There was another thread today that explained that California no longer has a $10 billion bullet train. More like $80 - $100 billion after cost over runs have been figured in.

Happy days are here again,
Obama's on TV again
There are no jobs so lets pretend.
Happy days are here again.
15 posted on 08/10/2011 11:05:54 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: WMarshal
I hope to God that we can keep the feds from bailing them out!

__________________________________________________________

lol...Too late, the feds even bailed out Texas and everyone else...Just one of many reasons why your government is broke and put the next 20 generation into an endless debt spiral.

___________________________________________________________

Gov. Perry decides to accept stimulus money for Texas

AUSTIN, TEXAS (AP) -- Gov. Rick Perry has decided to accept Texas' $17 billion share of the federal stimulus money.

Perry wrote in a letter to President Barack Obama yesterday that Texas would use the money "to promote economic growth and create jobs in a fiscally responsible manner."

16 posted on 08/10/2011 11:06:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

When you look at the details, the category “other revenue” is where 80% of the shortfall originates.

What were they thinking? To be off $419 million? Was it hope and prayer? Kicking the can down the road, state style.

Unfortunately, the road is very close to the cliff edge for CA.


17 posted on 08/10/2011 11:07:02 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: dragnet2

Time for a fire sale. What bid to I hear for Hearst’s Castle and the surrounding area for real estate development?


18 posted on 08/10/2011 11:07:16 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: dragnet2

02/2009: California votes to increase taxes.
08/2011: California tax revenue drops ‘unexpectedly.’

Unexpectedly, that is, unless you’ve studied US fiscal history at all. Increasing taxes beyond a certain level always produces a reduction in tax revenue.


19 posted on 08/10/2011 11:10:35 AM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: dragnet2

02/2009: California votes to increase taxes.
08/2011: California tax revenue drops ‘unexpectedly.’

Unexpectedly, that is, unless you’ve studied US fiscal history at all. Increasing taxes beyond a certain level always produces a reduction in tax revenue.


20 posted on 08/10/2011 11:11:15 AM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: dragnet2
surprise, surprise, surprise

And you mean to tell me that losing up to 7 school days in some districts is the end of the world? Surely there has to be enough fluff in the schedule that core curriculum need not suffer.

21 posted on 08/10/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Murray / Baucus / Kerry? I've had better picks come out of my nose.)
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To: HGSW0904

Ooopsie. Got so riled I posted twice.

Clean up on aisle 20, please?


22 posted on 08/10/2011 11:13:51 AM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: dragnet2

One, two three...”UNEXPECTED”!!!

Surprise Surprise Surprise!!!

Even Gomer Pyle would’ve figured SOME of this out by now...


23 posted on 08/10/2011 11:14:40 AM PDT by mo
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To: dragnet2

Unexpectedly...


24 posted on 08/10/2011 11:15:36 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t you mean $80 billion?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2761663/posts


25 posted on 08/10/2011 11:16:53 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: dragnet2
...leading many to doubt the state budget's assumption of economic recovery and a $4-billion windfall...

LMAO!!
Show me one person who actually believed that fraudulent budget assumption and I will show you an utter moron.

26 posted on 08/10/2011 11:22:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: WMarshal
Notice that they make cuts to education first, cuts that affect Americans

Wrong, this state and other states have opted to educate half of Mexico....They've jammed and choked off all levels of education, heath care etc,...As big biz off shored your jobs for cheap commie labor, all while these corrupt little government kingdoms opted to roll out the red carpet of millions of low wage illegals while forcing the tax payers to foot the bill.

This is ending in utter disaster, right before our eyes.

27 posted on 08/10/2011 11:23:06 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

sounds like the perfect time to build a multi-billion dollar bullet train no one will ride!

/s


28 posted on 08/10/2011 11:32:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yoofs will ride it looking for stupid white liberals to roll.


29 posted on 08/10/2011 11:42:36 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

If this is not insanity, I have no idea what is. Socialist-Democrat infested and already bankrupt California gleefully plunges eighty billion dollars deeper into debt. Train wreck with reality on the tracks ahead!


30 posted on 08/10/2011 11:46:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I am absolutely convinced everything happening in this country which is is directly being caused by government at all levels, is totally intentional in an effort to destroy America as we know it.

They could not come up with better country killing plans, if they sat behind closed doors, in meetings where the only purpose of the meeting was to concoct plans to compromise and undermine this country.

How could this possibly have been mismanaged so bad, without it being intentional?

31 posted on 08/10/2011 11:55:03 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NonValueAdded

is it to be presumed that if school days are cut, that the teachers and other workers have their pay cut?.....because with the rats and the govt class, you can never predict it..


32 posted on 08/10/2011 11:59:07 AM PDT by cherry
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To: dragnet2

HA HA HA. The California Pols can’t say they weren’t warned about reckless legislative spending along with giveaway programs that were, from the beginning, un-sustainable. It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion. California is about to come off the rails.


33 posted on 08/10/2011 12:15:45 PM PDT by semaj (Anybody who claims that violence never solved anything is a liar..., just ask the government.)
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To: umgud
What does "citation needed" and numerical references mean?

Examples:

California Data Exchange Center[citation needed]
California Access for Infants and Mothers[1]

34 posted on 08/10/2011 12:18:03 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64
What does "citation needed" and numerical references mean?

That information can only be obtained by writing to the California Department of Inquiries and Obscure Questions. You'll have to submit a finger print, copy of your passport, SSN, a current utility bill, and a self addressed stamped envelope. Expect 36-48 weeks for for a written response.

35 posted on 08/10/2011 12:28:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cobra64

This was a cut & paste from Wiki.


36 posted on 08/10/2011 12:37:25 PM PDT by umgud
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To: dragnet2
"If the economy remains sluggish and the $4 billion does not materialize, cuts in public schools, universities, libraries, child care, and services for the elderly and frail will automatically take effect.

And the cuts for state employees are where????

37 posted on 08/10/2011 12:50:35 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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38 posted on 08/10/2011 12:58:28 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: dragnet2
How could this possibly have been mismanaged so bad, without it being intentional?

On the most part, I don't think its a nefarious plot. I believe this is what happens when you allow a bureaucracy to be managed by mediocre managers with no accountability.
Budgets are not treated seriously, and painful layoffs never occur.
Middle managers, and directors, continue to grow their fiefdoms in the good times and the bad.
Unscrupulous politicians care only about getting elected and promise pensions and benefits to union workers that can never be met.
Voters pass School bond after School bond (hey, were all for educating the childrun - aren't we?) - believing that throwing money at a black hole will turn it into a supernova...

I don't think its a nefarious plot - just human nature. Unfortunately, if you read the Bible you understand human nature is naturally depraved (prideful, greedy, covetous, ...).

Our Founding Fathers (who, on the most part, actually had a real reverence and fear for God -- and didn't use Him as a 'prop') created a recipe that should have worked: a very limited Government with a large number of rights granted to the people. They understood that people were ruled by God - and Government was merely for administrative purposes. They used to be called 'public servants'. However we as a people have allowed this 'limited Government' to become 'god' and have an unlimited budget and unlimited control over our rights and lives... And thus, here we are...

39 posted on 08/10/2011 1:00:52 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: dragnet2

Race riots next?


40 posted on 08/10/2011 1:10:13 PM PDT by JSU Gamecock
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To: dragnet2
They should just increase tax rates on everyone in the movie and television industry to 99% and raise their property taxes to 100% of value. After all they are the ones that are constantly lecturing everyone to share the pain and pay your fair share...right?

Time to buck up and put your money where your mouth is Babs, Matt, Sean, George...anyone?

41 posted on 08/10/2011 1:27:15 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: dragnet2
How could this possibly have been mismanaged so bad, without it being intentional?

The Governor's nickname is Moonbeam...Californians didn't get enough of a kick to the groin the last time this moron was in office so they went back for a second helping.

42 posted on 08/10/2011 1:30:20 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: JrsyJack
Kinda like Americans voting for Obama, now in a cross fire hurricane of debt.

The problem for them here and elsewhere, is there is no one left to kick money out of. Tax revenues drying up. No more money honey.

Now we get to watch them turn on each other, and kick themselves.

43 posted on 08/10/2011 1:40:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

that giant sucking sound are businesses exiting kalifornia just as fast as they can, with all that tax revenue following close behind.


44 posted on 08/10/2011 1:50:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Nervous Tick

It used to be for the “Chilrun” but now that the Baby Boomers are getting “elderly and frail” they are using that as a sympathy line.


45 posted on 08/10/2011 2:05:25 PM PDT by tiki
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To: dragnet2

I have to admit that you are 100% right. Ever notice that the Republican party has avoided even mentioning cutting off benefits for illegals? Betraying America is a two-party effort.


46 posted on 08/10/2011 2:27:34 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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To: WMarshal
I have to admit that you are 100% right. Ever notice that the Republican party has avoided even mentioning cutting off benefits for illegals? Betraying America is a two-party effort.

Absolutely, and the reason I won't support another Republican candidate until they run people who will kick the podium over and demand relief for Americans from this government sponsored country killing betrayal.

47 posted on 08/10/2011 2:47:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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But they promised it was balanced! This shortfall was unforeseeable! It's unexpected!

Republicans fault for not wasting taxpayer's dollars and letting temporary tax increases expire.

/s

48 posted on 08/10/2011 4:05:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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That sale tax reduction amounts to about 10m out of an 1,100m shortfall. It’s nothing, not even 1%. And even if it had passed, the special election would’ve cost about $70m.


49 posted on 08/10/2011 4:11:25 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Jim Robinson

I blame the idiot electorate and I don’t see the problem of the massive spending or the continuing election of socialists, until California financially crashes and burns. I think that is our end game. We go on with $30-$40 billion annual deficits until we crash and burn. I can see a day coming when the “budget shortfall” is on the order of the general fund. Around then, our bonds won’t sell and we’ll come to a screeching halt. Then, we rebuild.


50 posted on 08/10/2011 7:49:54 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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