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Entire U.S. Stealth Fighter Fleet Grounded
http://www.extremeconservatives.com/2011/08/entire-u-s-stealth-fighter-fleet-grounded/ ^

Posted on 08/10/2011 3:16:24 PM PDT by chessplayer

In past few decades, the U.S. Air Force has spent untold billions researching and developing a family of stealth fighter jets that are supposed to be generations ahead of any dogfighters in the sky.

But after building more than 170 F-22 Raptors and a handful of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, not a single one is available for service. The Air Force currently has zero flyable stealth fighters. None.

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KEYWORDS: f22; f35; jointstrikefighter; jsf; lockheed; lockheedmartin; oldnews; raptor; sourcetitlenoturl; stealth; stealthfighterjets; stealthfighters
The more complex the machine, the more things that can go wrong. Planes are of little use if they are continually grounded for one reason or another. The USSR had it right in the Cold War. Their planes were not as technologically advanced as ours, but they made up for it with overwhelming numbers of them. And their planes could take a beating and keep going. They could land and take off on battered airstrips that our planes could never do.
1 posted on 08/10/2011 3:16:26 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I heard that the Ruskie’s birds had vacuum tubes as opposed to digital...which would survive an EMP attack.


2 posted on 08/10/2011 3:19:23 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: chessplayer

Colonel Boyd was right. He was always right. And we’re doing it wrong.

Every more expensive, complex planes means a small, bug-ridden fleet with no real military value. Time to bring back the Fighter Mafia in USAF.


3 posted on 08/10/2011 3:20:00 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: chessplayer
Hmmm, I guess we could ask the Syrian and Egyptians how that Soviet Bloc equipment worked out for them.
4 posted on 08/10/2011 3:20:10 PM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: chessplayer
The Air Force currently has zero flyable stealth fighters. None.

Well, no non-black program ones, anyway.

5 posted on 08/10/2011 3:21:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: chessplayer

Headline not exactly correct, F-117s and B-2 bombers
still flying.


6 posted on 08/10/2011 3:27:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: chessplayer
"The Air Force currently has zero flyable stealth fighters. None."

Not true. Hyperbole is not a good way to start an article.

They may not be operational (war ready), but they're flying.

See 'em flying around a few times a week here.

They're busy testing anything and everything they can think of to find out what's causing the contamination in the OBOGGS system.

I'm confident that they'll figure it out.

7 posted on 08/10/2011 3:27:29 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: chessplayer
Way to go Obama administration! Let the enemy know your flight readiness status. Next thing they will tell us that they had to bring all the SSN’s into port and open the launch tubes to air them out. IDIOTS
8 posted on 08/10/2011 3:28:30 PM PDT by pietraynor (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: thinkthenpost; chessplayer

golly gee, I also remember how Iraq’s masses of Soviet gear were supposed to inflict massive losses on US forces in the 1991 Gulf War....that even if we could win it would be such a bloody quagmire that our military would never recover.... how our high-tech equipment would be breaking down all over the place there.... after all, we’d been reading/hearing all about the problems with the M1 Abrams tanks, the F15s and F16s, the F117s, the B1s and B2s etc. etc. etc.

Not saying that there are not often serious issues which need to be addressed, but c’mon we’ve been told this kind of stuff about every advanced weapons system for decades.


9 posted on 08/10/2011 3:30:37 PM PDT by Enchante (Are there any honest politicians in Washington, DC??)
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To: Enchante

They were saying the same thing about the U.S.S. Monitor.

There will always be naysayers when it comes to military technological advancements.

In regard to your “high tech equipment” comment; in DS/DS, FMC rates for USAF aircraft were at their highest in years. The maintainers were working their tails off. (I know, I was one of them.)


10 posted on 08/10/2011 3:36:44 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: gorush
The cold war B-52 boxes I'm familiar with, other than having a few nuvisters on the really old stuff, was all solid state and had big ‘EMP diodes’ so they could survive long enough to return the favor and hopefully return to base.
11 posted on 08/10/2011 3:40:34 PM PDT by GBA
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To: gorush

Yep we made fun of the tubes in the 1970s but they allowed an extremely powerful radar set that was also emp proof.


12 posted on 08/10/2011 3:43:01 PM PDT by omega4179 (Obama Downgrade)
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To: tet68

F-117 and B2 don’t fit the fighter model.. at least in my book.


13 posted on 08/10/2011 3:43:07 PM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: gorush
I heard that the Ruskie’s birds had vacuum tubes as opposed to digital...which would survive an EMP attack.

Our stuff survives EMP and has modern computing power.

14 posted on 08/10/2011 3:43:10 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: chessplayer
"... The Air Force currently has zero flyable stealth fighters. None."

Then I have to wonder who was flying the two F-22s that flew over my house last week.

15 posted on 08/10/2011 3:49:46 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: maddog55

Ok, the B-2 doesn’t at least as far as we know.


16 posted on 08/10/2011 3:50:49 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: chessplayer

gee, you mean 0bama’s plans have left us without a stealth fighter, leaving the domination of the skies to the chinese?

who woulda thunk it


17 posted on 08/10/2011 3:51:46 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: chessplayer

All these billions wasted, and they want to take my husband’s pension to balance the defense budget. Nice.


18 posted on 08/10/2011 4:04:50 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: sten

They are grounded for a precautionary fix. It is a safety thing. If we were in need of them, aim sure theybwould fly just fine.


19 posted on 08/10/2011 4:06:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (George Lopez is the black hole of funny. Nothing funny can escape his suck.)
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To: sten

They are grounded for a precautionary fix. It is a safety thing. If we were in need of them, aim sure theybwould fly just fine.


20 posted on 08/10/2011 4:06:07 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (George Lopez is the black hole of funny. Nothing funny can escape his suck.)
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To: tet68
F-117’s are not flying, they retired them a couple of years back.
21 posted on 08/10/2011 4:10:34 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: chessplayer

Reminds me of the old cold war air force joke that went something like this:
“In the future, the USA will develop a multi-role fighter/bomber that will single-handedly be able to defeat the entire Soviet Block Air Force... and we will only be able to afford ONE of them!”


22 posted on 08/10/2011 4:37:19 PM PDT by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Euthanasia Healthcare)
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To: tet68
>>>>>>>Headline not exactly correct, F-117s and B-2 bombers still flying.<<<<<<<

Nighthawk is retired owing to Bent One.

23 posted on 08/10/2011 4:43:37 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: SDShack
"Reminds me of the old cold war air force joke that went something like this: “In the future, the USA will develop a multi-role fighter/bomber that will single-handedly be able to defeat the entire Soviet Block Air Force... and we will only be able to afford ONE of them!”"

And like the current defenders of the F-22 program, they'll tell us that one's enough, because it'll beat everything else in the world with one hand tied behind the pilot's back.

Numbers aren't everything, but they definitely count in war.
24 posted on 08/10/2011 4:50:44 PM PDT by DesScorp
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25 posted on 08/10/2011 5:09:53 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: chessplayer

Need to give enough time for Chinese to catch up er copy enough of the hardware


26 posted on 08/10/2011 5:50:05 PM PDT by Flavius (What hopes for victory, Gaius Crastinus? What grounds for encouragement ?)
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To: chessplayer
Try and keep up.

Air Force grounds F-22s over oxygen system concerns

27 posted on 08/10/2011 7:36:01 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: SZonian

thanks for all of your service and hard work!!

Those must have been some “interesting times” during DS....


28 posted on 08/11/2011 4:42:59 AM PDT by Enchante (9 year cancer survivor (ME) this month - last surgery Aug. 2002)
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To: chessplayer
The USSR had it right in the Cold War. Their planes were not as technologically advanced as ours, but they made up for it with overwhelming numbers of them.

The Russians also expected that they'd take HUGE losses against western airforces. This is another reason that they designed things to be cheap. Another consequence was that their pilots didn't get much actual stick-time. Training was lower.

Russian military hardware was "rugged" but that doesn't mean that the maintenance hours per flight hour were any better.

29 posted on 08/22/2011 12:54:14 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: steve86

Yea....and one of them has been inspected by the Chinese now...


30 posted on 08/22/2011 1:07:50 PM PDT by Gaffer
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