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US seeks transparency on China's first aircraft carrier
Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) ^ | Aug 11, 2011

Posted on 08/10/2011 8:49:53 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

US seeks transparency on China's first aircraft carrier

IANS | Aug 11, 2011, 06.20AM IST

WASHINGTON: The US is worried by the lack of transparency about China's first aircraft carrier, which made its maiden voyage on Wednesday, the US state department has stated.

"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that China would like to give for needing this kind of equipment," said US state department Victoria Nuland.

"This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It's not as transparent as the United States about its military acquisitions, about its military budget," she added. "And this causes concern."

China bought the Admiral Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier, originally built in the Soviet Union and named Varyag, from Ukraine for $20 million in 1998. Before being sold, the ship was disarmed and its engines were removed.

The 1,000-feet vessel is designed to carry 26 planes and 24 helicopters and be equipped with Soviet-designed AK-630 and CADS-N-1 Kashtan close-in weapon systems, P-700 Granit anti-ship cruise missiles, Tor short-range surface-to-air missile systems and UDAV-1 anti-submarine weapon systems.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; china; navair; pacific

1 posted on 08/10/2011 8:49:59 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 08/10/2011 8:52:13 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Our State Dept. is laughable, just what kind of
transparency do they expect to get?


3 posted on 08/10/2011 8:53:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

whatta supid government.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 8:53:26 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why would any country want to have “transparency” of their military weapons with a potential enemy? This is insane.


5 posted on 08/10/2011 8:54:12 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I can see the commies “larfing and sarring, wee vee arse transparent arse Obama.”


6 posted on 08/10/2011 8:55:10 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that China would like to give for needing this kind of equipment," said US state department Victoria Nuland.

"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that the US would like to give for needing this kind of deficit spending," said China's foreign ministry.

7 posted on 08/10/2011 8:55:48 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

LOL

Whose business is it of yours?

They want to build a carrier fine.....

We can still blow it up.

Instant stimulus.


8 posted on 08/10/2011 8:58:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Our enemies are building weapons and the fags in our State Dept. want transparency? Is this for real? These people are naive dopes. No wonder the Chinamen laugh at us.


9 posted on 08/10/2011 9:00:21 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: tet68

Hey, they have to say something...

I just want to see some more pics of the ship at sea!


10 posted on 08/10/2011 9:01:11 PM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: DTogo
"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that the US would like to give for needing this kind of deficit spending," said China's foreign ministry.

You know, I'd go right along with the Chinese foreign ministry and like to see that kind of transparency on the deficit spending as well!

11 posted on 08/10/2011 9:05:01 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If I was China, I would respond with, “Our Aircraft Carrier is to be used as a mobile platform to launch aircraft,” Theres your transparency. What a bunch of idiots we have in charge.
12 posted on 08/10/2011 9:05:53 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What is China’s strength. Army numbers. This is just them playing with our stupid, inept bureacracy. Looky here, we have a carrier or two.
Give Japan China’s resources and I’d be worried. Very worried.
China is a perpetual implosion of infighting. They’ll get slaughtered at sea. They’ll slaughter you on land just by numbers.


13 posted on 08/10/2011 9:06:00 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: tet68

They could try using Wikipedia


14 posted on 08/10/2011 9:10:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: TwoSwords

Logistics make me very unworried about the Chinese engaging in military action with us.


15 posted on 08/10/2011 9:14:14 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: sukhoi-30mki
“”We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that China would like to give for needing this kind of equipment,” said US state department Victoria Nuland.

“This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It's not as transparent as the United States about its military acquisitions, about its military budget,” she added. “And this causes concern.”

Just read this garbage. We have elected a bunch of 18 year olds to run our country. This sounds like talk one would hear naive high school kids would be using while sitting around in someones basement.

They are completely clueless about how the world works. They think a country like China would care about “being transparent”.

Maybe a beer summit would let them rethink things. Then they could turn their new carrier into a peace museum. With a low carbon footprint. The gift shop would sell cruelty free cosmetics and be completely green.

16 posted on 08/10/2011 9:19:13 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: tet68

Dear Mrs. Cwinton,

"Re your request for "transparency", you can rest assured we used very much of the technology you and your honorable husband gave us in exchange for our "contributions' to his campaign.

17 posted on 08/10/2011 9:24:36 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What transparaency?.. Give them the plans to the new Gerald Ford class carriers.. because they are our ALLY?..

Maybe we are commies now too...
This White House is like a twilight zone administration..
Hyperbole does not come close to describing it..

Uncle Sam got something nasty on his shoe when he elected this idiot.. as president..


18 posted on 08/10/2011 9:30:14 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Pretty astounding naivete isn’t it?

Do we have to wait for an election to rid our country of this festering sore and his little friends?

Lord be with us please, at least some of us.


19 posted on 08/10/2011 9:31:17 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: rjeffries

Europe will eventually have to face China on land and Europe will lose. Chinese are a lot tougher than Europeans. Loot and slaves are irresistable.


20 posted on 08/10/2011 9:37:58 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It’s not as transparent as the United States...


Don’t tell the citizens of the world. They have their hopes hanging on Chinese perfection.


21 posted on 08/10/2011 9:57:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: sukhoi-30mki

transparency=a tomahawk amidships.


22 posted on 08/10/2011 10:46:30 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

transparency=a tomahawk amidships.


23 posted on 08/10/2011 10:46:41 PM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I cannot believe the arrogance and stupidity of our own State Department. Do we notify the Chinese every time we issue orders to our strike groups?

The United States has ELEVEN carrier strike groups. China has ONE carrier and virtually zero experience with carrier battle tactics, sustainment, or logistics. Do they even have a trained crew?

Yeah, the Chinese better explain why they have ONE carrier, or... Or, what?

Laughable!


24 posted on 08/10/2011 11:37:06 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: All

Who the hell are WE to say whether China can have a damned aircraft carrier?


25 posted on 08/11/2011 12:23:41 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: sukhoi-30mki
State Department FOOLS!

We should be as tight lipped as China. They're not wrong, we are.

26 posted on 08/11/2011 7:21:24 AM PDT by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Prokopton

Our Staate Dept must think the Chicom carrier is a “glass bottomed boat”


27 posted on 08/11/2011 8:04:30 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO! But he should WALK 3 miles every day..)
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To: newzjunkey

***Who the hell are WE to say whether China can have a damned aircraft carrier?***

Exactly! In any case, I think what we’ve done is that we’ve gotten them by the you know what with the so called US debt crises because as the biggest holder of US debt, they chance to lose big time if they US economy tanks. So let them enjoy their BMW’s and their Ferrari’s for now. This is a free market society. If they have the bread for it, they do have every right to own BMW’s and Ferrari’s is how I rationalize it.


28 posted on 08/11/2011 11:38:23 AM PDT by EdisonOne (I)
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To: CitizenUSA

***I cannot believe the arrogance... ELEVEN carrier strike groups. China has ONE carrier... Yeah, the Chinese better explain why they have ONE carrier, or... Or, what?***

I think what they wanted is to establish an avenue for the ChiComs to opening the Varyag up to US inspection to see what it is really made of. Of course, that will only be realized if the exchange was a reciprocal one meaning an exchange of inspection between both sides. A you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours type of deal that we’ve been seeing between the US and the ChiComs for some times now.


29 posted on 08/11/2011 12:06:30 PM PDT by EdisonOne (I)
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To: paddles

xxx transparency=a tomahawk amidships. xxx

Don’t forget, Tomahawks are two ways streets.

Example: how even obsolete Mirage F-1’s managed to find targets with 80’s era exocets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4...

Now compared these obsolete 80’s era exocets with modern day sure-kill carrier killers that the ChiComs had retraced from the old carbon papers that we throw away in our carbage bins...

This teaches us all to never chuck our bills and documents in the trash (:)....


30 posted on 08/11/2011 1:28:30 PM PDT by EdisonOne (I)
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