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Posted on 08/10/2011 8:49:53 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
US seeks transparency on China's first aircraft carrier
IANS | Aug 11, 2011, 06.20AM IST
WASHINGTON: The US is worried by the lack of transparency about China's first aircraft carrier, which made its maiden voyage on Wednesday, the US state department has stated.
"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that China would like to give for needing this kind of equipment," said US state department Victoria Nuland.
"This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It's not as transparent as the United States about its military acquisitions, about its military budget," she added. "And this causes concern."
China bought the Admiral Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier, originally built in the Soviet Union and named Varyag, from Ukraine for $20 million in 1998. Before being sold, the ship was disarmed and its engines were removed.
The 1,000-feet vessel is designed to carry 26 planes and 24 helicopters and be equipped with Soviet-designed AK-630 and CADS-N-1 Kashtan close-in weapon systems, P-700 Granit anti-ship cruise missiles, Tor short-range surface-to-air missile systems and UDAV-1 anti-submarine weapon systems.
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Our State Dept. is laughable, just what kind of
transparency do they expect to get?
whatta supid government.
Why would any country want to have “transparency” of their military weapons with a potential enemy? This is insane.
I can see the commies “larfing and sarring, wee vee arse transparent arse Obama.”
"We want to see more transparency. We would welcome any kind of explanation that the US would like to give for needing this kind of deficit spending," said China's foreign ministry.
Whose business is it of yours?
They want to build a carrier fine.....
We can still blow it up.
Our enemies are building weapons and the fags in our State Dept. want transparency? Is this for real? These people are naive dopes. No wonder the Chinamen laugh at us.
Hey, they have to say something...
I just want to see some more pics of the ship at sea!
You know, I'd go right along with the Chinese foreign ministry and like to see that kind of transparency on the deficit spending as well!
What is China’s strength. Army numbers. This is just them playing with our stupid, inept bureacracy. Looky here, we have a carrier or two.
Give Japan China’s resources and I’d be worried. Very worried.
China is a perpetual implosion of infighting. They’ll get slaughtered at sea. They’ll slaughter you on land just by numbers.
They could try using Wikipedia
Logistics make me very unworried about the Chinese engaging in military action with us.
“This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It's not as transparent as the United States about its military acquisitions, about its military budget,” she added. “And this causes concern.”
Just read this garbage. We have elected a bunch of 18 year olds to run our country. This sounds like talk one would hear naive high school kids would be using while sitting around in someones basement.
They are completely clueless about how the world works. They think a country like China would care about “being transparent”.
Maybe a beer summit would let them rethink things. Then they could turn their new carrier into a peace museum. With a low carbon footprint. The gift shop would sell cruelty free cosmetics and be completely green.
Dear Mrs. Cwinton,
"Re your request for "transparency", you can rest assured we used very much of the technology you and your honorable husband gave us in exchange for our "contributions' to his campaign.
What transparaency?.. Give them the plans to the new Gerald Ford class carriers.. because they are our ALLY?..
Maybe we are commies now too...
This White House is like a twilight zone administration..
Hyperbole does not come close to describing it..
Uncle Sam got something nasty on his shoe when he elected this idiot.. as president..
Pretty astounding naivete isn’t it?
Do we have to wait for an election to rid our country of this festering sore and his little friends?
Lord be with us please, at least some of us.
Europe will eventually have to face China on land and Europe will lose. Chinese are a lot tougher than Europeans. Loot and slaves are irresistable.
“This is part of our larger concern that China is not as transparent as other countries. It’s not as transparent as the United States...
transparency=a tomahawk amidships.
transparency=a tomahawk amidships.
I cannot believe the arrogance and stupidity of our own State Department. Do we notify the Chinese every time we issue orders to our strike groups?
The United States has ELEVEN carrier strike groups. China has ONE carrier and virtually zero experience with carrier battle tactics, sustainment, or logistics. Do they even have a trained crew?
Yeah, the Chinese better explain why they have ONE carrier, or... Or, what?
Who the hell are WE to say whether China can have a damned aircraft carrier?
We should be as tight lipped as China. They're not wrong, we are.
Our Staate Dept must think the Chicom carrier is a “glass bottomed boat”
***Who the hell are WE to say whether China can have a damned aircraft carrier?***
Exactly! In any case, I think what we’ve done is that we’ve gotten them by the you know what with the so called US debt crises because as the biggest holder of US debt, they chance to lose big time if they US economy tanks. So let them enjoy their BMW’s and their Ferrari’s for now. This is a free market society. If they have the bread for it, they do have every right to own BMW’s and Ferrari’s is how I rationalize it.
***I cannot believe the arrogance... ELEVEN carrier strike groups. China has ONE carrier... Yeah, the Chinese better explain why they have ONE carrier, or... Or, what?***
I think what they wanted is to establish an avenue for the ChiComs to opening the Varyag up to US inspection to see what it is really made of. Of course, that will only be realized if the exchange was a reciprocal one meaning an exchange of inspection between both sides. A you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours type of deal that we’ve been seeing between the US and the ChiComs for some times now.
xxx transparency=a tomahawk amidships. xxx
Don’t forget, Tomahawks are two ways streets.
Example: how even obsolete Mirage F-1’s managed to find targets with 80’s era exocets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4...
Now compared these obsolete 80’s era exocets with modern day sure-kill carrier killers that the ChiComs had retraced from the old carbon papers that we throw away in our carbage bins...
This teaches us all to never chuck our bills and documents in the trash (:)....