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British rioters the spawn of a bankrupt ruling elite
The Australian ^ | August 11, 2011 12:00AM | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 08/10/2011 11:20:26 PM PDT by Murtyo

THE riots in London and elsewhere in Britain are a backhanded tribute to the long-term intellectual torpor, moral cowardice, incompetence and careerist opportunism of the British political and intellectual class.

They have somehow managed not to notice what has long been apparent to anyone who has taken a short walk with his eyes open down any frequented British street: that a considerable proportion of the country's young population (a proportion that is declining) is ugly, aggressive, vicious, badly educated, uncouth and criminally inclined.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anthonydaniels; dalrymple; england; riots; theodoredalrymple; uk

1 posted on 08/10/2011 11:20:33 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

You sound like that English writer, Theodore Dalrymple. He has noticed the underclass being created on purpose by the intellectual elites who were destroying the Character, Honor, Wisdom, Duty, and Justice of the people in England which so typified a Churchill and had made England an Empire.

England is being eradicated by massive immigration, promotion of abortion, and promiscuity, media that pours out vulgar filth, and a school system devoid of all history and knowledge which even eradicated Milton and Shakespeare.

Result—they have had several generations of severely abused and neglected children who can’t be anything but ignorant thugs—useful idiots to create mayhem, so the New World Communists can take complete control.

They have been destroyed from within by the one world communists like Tony Blair and the other puppets.


2 posted on 08/10/2011 11:37:51 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie

SavageSusie - this is Dalrymple’s stuff. THe guy is brilliant.


3 posted on 08/10/2011 11:44:37 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

Interviews with the rioters are both obnoxious and pompous.


4 posted on 08/10/2011 11:45:43 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: savagesusie
You sound like that English writer, Theodore Dalrymple. He has noticed the underclass being created on purpose by the intellectual elites who were destroying the Character, Honor, Wisdom, Duty, and Justice of the people in England which so typified a Churchill and had made England an Empire.

England is being eradicated by massive immigration, promotion of abortion, and promiscuity, media that pours out vulgar filth, and a school system devoid of all history and knowledge which even eradicated Milton and Shakespeare.

The historian Will Durant noted that great civilizations were built on a strong moral foundation, and that their decline followed a decline in morality. Some things never change.

5 posted on 08/10/2011 11:56:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: savagesusie
Result—they have had several generations of severely abused and neglected children who can’t be anything but ignorant thugs—useful idiots to create mayhem, so the New World Communists can take complete control.

No matter how dysfunctional the society, whether it's the old Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Iran, or the future United States, the ruling class always lives well.

6 posted on 08/11/2011 12:05:09 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Murtyo

save


7 posted on 08/11/2011 12:23:53 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Murtyo

‘THE riots in London and elsewhere in Britain are a backhanded tribute to the long-term intellectual torpor, moral cowardice, incompetence and careerist opportunism of the British political and intellectual class.’

Not quite sure why it’s the fault of anyone but the rioters, themselves. Reminds me of the old Monty Python one-liner: ‘It’s a fair cop, but society’s to blame.’


8 posted on 08/11/2011 12:41:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Can’r blame barbarians for being barbarians. Just don’texpect too much of them. Certainly don’t expect a sense of personal responsibility.


9 posted on 08/11/2011 1:12:13 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Murtyo

The European elite has sentenced entire nations to death. This is only the beginning. Pat Buchanan was onto this story in Death of the West in 2001.


10 posted on 08/11/2011 1:50:00 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: Jack Hammer; RobbyS

His point was that the British intellectual class, creator of the welfare state, has created these people by depriving them of all notion of faith, honor, truth, responsibility, love and loyalty, and by giving them massive handouts that do nothing but breed resentment.

Individual acts are obviously the fault of the individual, but so many people with no moral compass wouldn’t have been possible without the diligent work of intellectuals over the decades since WWII, year after year working to destroy British society and replace it with Animal Farm socialism.


11 posted on 08/11/2011 3:37:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: savagesusie
You sound like that English writer, Theodore Dalrymple.

Probably a good reason for that...

12 posted on 08/11/2011 3:40:47 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Moonman62

Since you mentioned the ruling class, I’ll say that if the left can organize such huge protests, they can just as easily organize a riot too. They’ve been practicing for a long time.


13 posted on 08/11/2011 4:04:54 AM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

things have quieted down today... after all the rioters are exhausted, that’s the most work they’ve done in years ;}


14 posted on 08/11/2011 4:33:22 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: Murtyo

welcome to “eutopia”


15 posted on 08/11/2011 5:01:31 AM PDT by Homer1
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To: Murtyo

Sounds like Michael Caine’s movie, “Harry Brown”.


16 posted on 08/11/2011 5:13:12 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: savagesusie

Here’s one for you:

I read a statistic not long ago that something like 30% of young people in Britain thought that Winston Churchill was a fictional character.

WTF!!!! How far gone is that?

They think that the ALL TIME prototypical statesman, diplomat, leader and writer in the Western Hemisphere did not exist!!!???


17 posted on 08/11/2011 5:47:51 AM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: Murtyo

it provides fodder for people like the blonde bimbo that Hannity had on last night to make the case that this is “symptomatic of the growing inequality between rich and poor”.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 5:59:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Murtyo
Either that, or perhaps decades of:

".. people having promiscuous sex with many anonymous partners without protection while at the same time experimenting with mind-expanding drugs in a consequence-free environment.."

might have something to do with it.

19 posted on 08/11/2011 6:06:26 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: SMARTY

It is all about worldview—ideas.

Too many people think that all their children need is healthy food and exercise. They ignore the ideas that are being pumped into their heads 24/7.

Their little brains soak up everything in the first 7 years of life—everything. If behavior of hitting their mother is seen—it becomes ingrained in them. Behaviors are habituated and internalized in those years...sexual identity stays open until 12 or first experience with sex. Behavior determines what you think and how you think. Morality is formed in early life and if not, it rots the culture from inside (Gramsci/Marcuse/Dewey, etc. cultural Marxists introduced PC and separation of Church and State to destroy morality being taught in the schools.) McGuffey Readers taught to respect God and all his creations—all people because they were the children of God. That ended in the 1930’s. Since then, Holmes destroyed the Rule of Law—his separation from morality from law—Legal Positivism which is no longer “Just Law” (Cicero).

Long March (through our Institutions) Roger Kimbal (sp?) chronicles the steps the Marxists took to destroy the universities, the public schools, marriage contracts—all aspects of the legal system.

Now, the idea of God and exposure to role models like George Washington and Lincoln and Wilberforce —all great people started being vilified by leftists in 1913—Beard and Carl Becker-—All Quiet on the Western Front-—to destroy those ideas of Honor, Duty, Courage and Virtue. It was steered by the German Philosophy of the 19th century—Intentionally—to transform Western Civilization from Christianity to atheism.

It is really simple to understand. Christianity was a universal religion which gave importance to all human beings—even the unborn and the old and feeble and the lepers. At its basis is self-sacrifice. It teaches the Truth—that this life is hard, but do good and work hard and your rewards will be great, if not in this life then in the next life. It is the reason we have had Churchill, Bonhoeffer, Lincoln, Newton, Solzhenitsyn, Dante, Bach, Reagan, Thatcher, Lord Acton and JF Kennedy. Not people of perfection, but people who will stand up to great evils and not allow them—even lose their life because of that stand.

Communism loathes those who thwart their ideas and socialists want control over every thought and action—They want serfdom because they want the power to eliminate those who they deem are unworthy of life. They want an unpolluted playground, just for themselves and their families. They want to be able to use all others for their own wicked pleasures. They are truly evil.


20 posted on 08/11/2011 8:31:43 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
It is all about worldview—ideas. Too many people think that all their children need is healthy food and exercise. They ignore the ideas that are being pumped into their heads 24/7. Their little brains soak up everything in the first 7 years of life—everything. If behavior of hitting their mother is seen—it becomes ingrained in them. Behaviors are habituated and internalized in those years...sexual identity stays open until 12 or first experience with sex. Behavior determines what you think and how you think. Morality is formed in early life and if not, it rots the culture from inside (Gramsci/Marcuse/Dewey, etc. cultural Marxists introduced PC and separation of Church and State to destroy morality being taught in the schools.) McGuffey Readers taught to respect God and all his creations—all people because they were the children of God. That ended in the 1930’s. Since then, Holmes destroyed the Rule of Law—his separation from morality from law—Legal Positivism which is no longer “Just Law” (Cicero). Long March (through our Institutions) Roger Kimbal (sp?) chronicles the steps the Marxists took to destroy the universities, the public schools, marriage contracts—all aspects of the legal system.

Now, the idea of God and exposure to role models like George Washington and Lincoln and Wilberforce —all great people started being vilified by leftists in 1913—Beard and Carl Becker-—All Quiet on the Western Front-—to destroy those ideas of Honor, Duty, Courage and Virtue. It was steered by the German Philosophy of the 19th century—Intentionally—to transform Western Civilization from Christianity to atheism.

It is really simple to understand. Christianity was a universal religion which gave importance to all human beings—even the unborn and the old and feeble and the lepers. At its basis is self-sacrifice. It teaches the Truth—that this life is hard, but do good and work hard and your rewards will be great, if not in this life then in the next life. It is the reason we have had Churchill, Bonhoeffer, Lincoln, Newton, Solzhenitsyn, Dante, Bach, Reagan, Thatcher, Lord Acton and JF Kennedy. Not people of perfection, but people who will stand up to great evils and not allow them—even lose their life because of that stand.

Communism loathes those who thwart their ideas and socialists want control over every thought and action—They want serfdom because they want the power to eliminate those who they deem are unworthy of life. They want an unpolluted playground, just for themselves and their families. They want to be able to use all others for their own wicked pleasures. They are truly evil.

Good grief, savagesusie, who are you?

21 posted on 08/11/2011 12:39:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

LOL

Just someone who loves ideas and loves to read the oddest books ever written, although Margaret Thatcher’s autobiography (I am reading right now) seems rather ordinary, although she was wise beyond her years, even as a child.

I studied Thomas Kuhn in college and understand paradigm shifts and the power of ideas. I read Bloom’s book, The Closing of the American Mind which was really horrifying....to think we are intentionally denying children the knowledge of a Classical education, when it created Edison, Beethoven, Wright Bros, Goethe, Milton, Shakespeare, Newton, Locke, Reid. Why would we get rid of the very ideas that put us on the Moon, unless we wanted useful idiots?

I just find the genius of man fascinating, and the ideas that created the amazing men like Bonhoeffer, Solzhenitsyn, Churchill, Lincoln, Jefferson, Wilberforce, Michelangelo, Brunelleschi, a gift to mankind, directly from God.

Men who stood on principle and are brilliant, so rare in history, but nevertheless, they appear. It is fascinating. I am a devoted Cicero fan and a student of Natural Law Theory and believe that there is nothing more evil and destructive to the soul and freedom than socialism. It is truly evil.


22 posted on 08/11/2011 6:33:38 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: kalee

bookmark


23 posted on 08/11/2011 6:42:34 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: savagesusie

I think you’re one of the best thinkers and writers on FR. And that’s really saying something.


24 posted on 08/11/2011 7:09:25 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

Thanks....I thought you thought I was an idiot. People tend to think I am a Goldie Hawn, although they are shocked when I can quote some obscure line from Aristotle, Cicero or Aquinas.

I am an artist, so people around my town think I am an extreme leftist. It is actually pretty handy. I have always hated Feminists and their hatred of men and patriarchy (My father and brothers are wonderful men and work hard). When I found out Betty Friedan was a dirty communist it all fell into place and I was mad ever since. I can’t stand liars and deceit and that is what Marxist ideology is about....Just reading what Karl Popper had to say about Marxism in the Thatcher book—about it being a fraud.....it is so hilarious!

Truth—it is actually so funny how threatening the truth is to the cockroaches. Everything they do and say are a pack of lies. But they are dangerous.


25 posted on 08/11/2011 7:35:31 PM PDT by savagesusie
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