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I should have picked Hillary over Obama
St Louis Post Disgrace ^ | August 11, 2011 | BILL McCLELLAN

Posted on 08/11/2011 5:28:38 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

I was splashing around in Lake Michigan last week when the realization hit me like a wave — I was wrong about Barack Obama. I should have voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago.

At the time of the primary, the decision seemed easy. I saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in "On the Road." He was 'something new, long prophesied, long a-coming."

Hillary was not new. She represented the second act of "Billary," and I had tired of that play long before it ended its eight-year run.

So I voted for Obama in the primary and then again in the general election. I even left the election night party at the Pageant — a party with an open bar and filled with state legislators, union guys and other acquaintances — to go to the Chase Park Plaza, where the Obama people were celebrating. I knew almost nobody at that second party, but I was there when the networks declared that Obama was the next president. People cried and hugged. I got teary myself. A black president. The times they are a-changing.

Indeed. They keep getting worse.

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1 posted on 08/11/2011 5:28:39 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

A black president

yes...thats really the only reason everyone voted for him. talk about racist.


2 posted on 08/11/2011 5:31:06 AM PDT by annelizly
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To: annelizly

White guilt.

These mea culpas are getting old. If they fell for the BS the first time around, what does that say about their judgement?


3 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:07 AM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Second Amendment First
At the time of the primary, the decision seemed easy. I saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in "On the Road." He was 'something new, long prophesied, long a-coming."

So is the coming world ruler also known as "The Beast." Seems more and more people are ripe for the picking.

4 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:07 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Second Amendment First

Folks, Mrs. Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton is every bit the Marxist/communist that Obammie the Commie is.

Don’t believe this new leftist diversion that she is some sort of a hawk or centrist.

She is a hardcore leftist who agrees with everything Obama is doing.


5 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Hitlary was have been a shade better than the One on the 'I hate the USA,' scale.

Even a brain dead zombie could see Oslama was a community communist.

6 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:21 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Second Amendment First
Fascinating description of the thought process of a progressive:

I was splashing around in Lake Michigan last week when the realization hit me like a wave — I was wrong about Barack Obama. I should have voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary three years ago.

7 posted on 08/11/2011 5:33:45 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Second Amendment First

whoever gets the nomination is who they’ll vote for despite all their handwringing.

they’re all leftists first and foremost.


8 posted on 08/11/2011 5:34:20 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Second Amendment First

....and all the lefties think they are so smart and above us...they’re “progressive”. BS.
They are knuckle dragging, emotional immature oafs.


9 posted on 08/11/2011 5:34:38 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Second Amendment First

Morons. They will never figure out it is the ideology that is a failure not the person.


10 posted on 08/11/2011 5:36:30 AM PDT by rwh
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To: Second Amendment First
odd --> Margery Eagan of the Boston Herald shares the same regrets --> Belatedly but finally heading for Hill

but I'll bet that both these columnists will be voting for Obambi in 2012...

11 posted on 08/11/2011 5:36:56 AM PDT by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Now, now, Bill; you got your “Hope and Change”. That it turned out being less than what you expected,what can I say?


12 posted on 08/11/2011 5:37:19 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: randita; DManA

It’s not about judgement or thought processes. These are liberals and emotion is what guides them.


13 posted on 08/11/2011 5:37:50 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: Second Amendment First

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeGPzk8Oca8

I remmeber how upset this woman was when the convention rejected Hillary and chose Obama. She knew it was a mistake.


14 posted on 08/11/2011 5:39:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Second Amendment First; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
This entertaining. But he has point.

Obama has set back Keynesian socialist economic dogma a decade undoing the damage that Republicans did when they were in power, in them setting back the belief in capitalism(good example=TARP).

Last night Ed Schultz MSNBC had a fit because Obama not only wouldn't support the recall efforts in WI, but he won't even mention the fight going on there. He and the other socialists at MSNBC are calling for Obama to fight for a massive Roosevelt type stimulus public works program.

Obama realizes the wind has changed on deficits and spending, and at the least he will play act like he agrees looking to re-election and poll testing everything he proposes.

15 posted on 08/11/2011 5:40:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Second Amendment First
Where oh where is that brave, experienced far left dem/lib/prog/pop who will run in the primaries against the stain?

Hitlery is the dem/lib/prog/pop equivalent of our good old boy newt...she's had it.

So....truthfully....who - in that diaper full of crap called the "democrat party" - could mount a realistic challenge to the stain???

16 posted on 08/11/2011 5:40:45 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Just a leftist cry baby that Obama has been to weak and hasn’t delivered enough liberalism.


17 posted on 08/11/2011 5:41:09 AM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: Second Amendment First

Another stupid communist checks in.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 5:42:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Second Amendment First
Dear Bill,


19 posted on 08/11/2011 5:42:49 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: Second Amendment First

the only regret the left has is that 0failure has gone too fast, waking up America before they secured everything they wanted... including the irreparable demise of the country


20 posted on 08/11/2011 5:43:24 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Second Amendment First

This article reminds me of a scene from the TV show “Taxi”.

Lewie grabs Jim’s ear with pliers. No reaction. The scene plays out for about 5 minutes. At the end Jim grabs his ear and yells “OW!!”.


21 posted on 08/11/2011 5:43:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: rwh
Morons. They will never figure out it is the ideology that is a failure not the person.
It's like they say about every failed communist regime in history: communism is good, it's that specific implementation that failed... next time we'll do it right.

They are True Believers and facts-to-the-contrary will never make them give up their beliefs.

22 posted on 08/11/2011 5:45:06 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Second Amendment First
Reasons I've heard why people voted for Obama:

- It's cool to vote for him.
- He's black.
- He was 'something new, long prophesied, long a-coming."

Zowie. The Beast in the Bible's book of Revelation is a good fit here. Duffy Duck might even work. The end is near.

23 posted on 08/11/2011 5:45:47 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: All
Letmee get this straight ...

You voted for Obama to prove you weren't a racist, and now you want to vote for Hillary! to prove you're not an idiot?

The Stupid is strong in this one ...

24 posted on 08/11/2011 5:46:52 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: Second Amendment First
I got teary myself. A black president.

So really, the liberals ARE racists. It's all about skin color.

So the new adage is absolutely valid:

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, then please vote for someone else in 2012 to PROVE you're not and IDIOT!"

25 posted on 08/11/2011 5:47:10 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: "Let them eat peas!")
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To: Second Amendment First

What a racist! (sarcasm)

I do hope Obama and his supporters give up power without trying to resort to violence, when the time comes.


26 posted on 08/11/2011 5:47:43 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: McGruff

No, Mr. Bush, I don’t miss you. I’m afraid you set the stage for our problematic and apparently unconstitutional leader.


27 posted on 08/11/2011 5:47:53 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Second Amendment First
“Why has Obama not lived up to the promise? He is clearly intelligent. For some reason, though, he was not ready for the rough and tumble of national politics”

This guy Mc Clellen who wrote this article along with millions of others is still caught up with the belief that
Obama is an intelligent man. REALLY?

28 posted on 08/11/2011 5:48:39 AM PDT by chris haney
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Condor51; sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; thouworm; GOPJ; Libloather; ...
The scariest words in the history of the US was when Pres-elect Obama told a crowd, "We are hours away from fundamentally changing America."

They crowd clapped and cheered.

We now know---to our infinite grief---what exactly he meant.

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FLOP-A-RAMA----THE SAGA OF OBAMA and his "smart" progressive advisors.

He was all set to sail to reelection.

At a crucial stage in the 2007 Democratic primaries, Obama gave a barnstorming speech, ending with a promise of what his victory would produce: "A nation healed. A world repaired. An America that believes again." But the bankrupt world he created would not cooperate.

He threw trillions of stimulus at anything that moved but the sagging economy would not cooperate.

He was all set to take credit for the debt ceiling bill--but the stock market took a dive and would not cooperate.

He catered to Third World tyrants and terrorists to shore up his base--as independents ran for the hills.

We ain't seen nuttin' yet. God knows what Marxist progressives are angling to do next.

"Americans are too stupid to understand how smart you are."

29 posted on 08/11/2011 5:48:55 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: xtinct

Democrats doubt Barack Obama’s reelection chances
President Barack Obama is facing mounting doubts within his own party about his re-election prospects, with fellow Democrats beginning to ask if Hillary Clinton would have made a better president.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8692054/Democrats-doubt-Barack-Obamas-reelection-chances.html


30 posted on 08/11/2011 5:49:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
She is a hardcore leftist who agrees with everything Obama is doing

Precisely !



31 posted on 08/11/2011 5:53:30 AM PDT by tomkat (Sarah '12)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
She is a hardcore leftist who agrees with everything Obama is doing.

You are right! Unfortunately, if it has taken this person, and those like him, three years to get an inkling of who/what Obama is, they will never believe it about Hillary!

32 posted on 08/11/2011 5:54:03 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I have a passing familiarity with Bill. He is a true leftwingnut...and apparently a crybaby too.


33 posted on 08/11/2011 5:55:44 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: DEADROCK
Even a brain dead zombie could see Oslama was a community communist.

Yeah, but he was a bit unknown. Hillary was a known near-communist herself. And on the GOP side, the open primary process and the MSM conspired to give us McCain, a weak candidate at best.

A perfect storm.

34 posted on 08/11/2011 5:56:40 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: PapaNew
I agree that other than Commander in Chief George Bush was part of the problem but there is real Hope for Change in the future.


35 posted on 08/11/2011 5:57:34 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I saw in Obama the same qualities Jack Kerouac saw in Dean Moriarty in “On the Road.” He was ‘something new, long prophesied, long a-coming.”

-and gay.


36 posted on 08/11/2011 5:58:04 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: RED SOUTH

“Just a leftist cry baby that Obama has been to weak and hasn’t delivered enough liberalism.”

Exactly. Totally in the tank for any Dem that makes him feel good, eager to spread the usual lies.


37 posted on 08/11/2011 5:58:50 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: randita
I agree.

But some Republicans would LOVE to see Allen West as President not because he's black but because of where he stands on the issues but they claim it would look to conspicuous because he is black and it would appear that the GOP is running a black candidate because the opposed candidate is black.

For those who feel that way, are they sacrificing their principals out of fear of how it may appear?

38 posted on 08/11/2011 6:00:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Let's make the 2012 campaign: "The War on Error")
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To: stayathomemom; Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Okay, I read the whole article. He's basically admitted he's fine with the Obama’s Communism, he just wanted a more adept administrator of it. Oh, and by the way, he's racist.
39 posted on 08/11/2011 6:01:24 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: Second Amendment First

This is like choosing the left nostril over the right nostril. You are still picking a booger.


40 posted on 08/11/2011 6:03:00 AM PDT by mirkwood (Sarah 2012 or bust)
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To: Second Amendment First

Had Hillary won, she also would have failed and they would have said ‘I wish I had voted for hussein’ at this point too.

They need to face it, Clinton only had it good for a few short years to an insane tech boom. He then went after that market (Microsoft especially) and helped bring it down. The 2000 on recession was what he left us, so I dunno why they love the idea of them so much. Rose colored glasses I guess.

But back to the point, I don’t think McCain would’ve done that much better either. Neither side offered up much in even the primaries last time that were viable.


41 posted on 08/11/2011 6:03:34 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary and the Black Panthers: The Real Story
Richard Poe
Tuesday, Aug. 19, 2003

A series of hard-Left mentors introduced Hillary to the brass-knuckle realities of revolutionary activism. As a Wellesley undergraduate, she met and interviewed radical organizer Saul Alinsky, whose Machiavellian tactics she admired. Hillary's senior thesis supported Alinsky's call for class warfare. (4)

At Yale, Hillary found a new Svengali in the form of left-wing law professor Thomas Emerson, known around campus as "Tommy the Commie." Emerson recruited Hillary and other students to help monitor the trial of the New Haven Nine for civil rights violations. Hillary took charge of the operation, scheduling the students in shifts, so that student monitors would always be present in the courtroom. She befriended and worked closely with Panther lawyer Charles Garry. (5)

Some believe that the enormous pressure exerted by the Left helped ensure light sentences for the New Haven Nine. Whether or not this is true, the punishments were mild.

"Only one of the killers was still in prison in 1977," reports John McCaslin in the Washington Times. "The gunman, Warren Kimbro, got a Harvard scholarship and became an assistant dean at Eastern Connecticut State College. Ericka Huggins, who boiled the water for Mr. Rackley's torture, got elected to a California school board." (6)

Hillary's defenders argue that she played no "significant" role in the New Haven Nine's defense. This is semantic hairsplitting. Obviously, Hillary was less "significant" than Charles Garry or "Tommy the Commie" Emerson. But Hillary served as a trusted lieutenant to these movers and shakers. Moreover, she had a national profile as a campus activist. Hillary was no rank-and-file student protester, as her apologists claim.

Indeed, Hillary's work for the Panthers won her a summer internship at the Berkeley office of attorney Robert Treuhaft in 1972. A hardline Stalinist, Treuhaft had quit the Communist Party in 1958 only because it was losing members and no longer provided a good platform for his activism. (7) "Treuhaft is a man who dedicated his entire legal career to advancing the agenda of the Soviet Communist Party and the KGB," notes historian Stephen Schwartz. (8)

The defense of the New Haven Nine marked Hillary's initiation into the sinister underworld of the hard-core, revolutionary Left. To my knowledge, Hillary has never publicly renounced nor apologized for her role in that movement.

http://www.legaled.com/hillaryatyale.htm
_________________________________________________________

From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

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"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo [the police].

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):

http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

42 posted on 08/11/2011 6:09:11 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Second Amendment First
RE: Clinton-Obama 2008 presidential debate

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And, Senator [OBAMA], if you get the nomination, you'll have to beat back these distractions.

And I want to give Senator Clinton a chance to respond, but first a follow-up on this issue, general theme of patriotism, in your relationships. A gentleman named William Ayers. He was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He's never apologized for that.

And, in fact, on 9/11, he was quoted in the New York Times saying, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough." An early organizing meeting for your State Senate campaign was held at his house and your campaign has said you are "friendly."

Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?

OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George.

The fact is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements? Because I certainly don't agree with those, either.

So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't.

CLINTON: Well, I think that is a fair general statement, but I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.

And, if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11, and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more.

And what they did was set bombs. And in some instances, people died. So it is -- I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about.

And I have no doubt -- I know Senator Obama's a good man and I respect him greatly, but I think that this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising.

http://www.zimbio.com/Barack+Obama/articles/2051/Hillary+Clinton+Questions+Obama+Barack+Bill

43 posted on 08/11/2011 6:09:22 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Tolsti2

Ace McCain was run to lose, like Dole.


44 posted on 08/11/2011 6:10:12 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Second Amendment First

McClellan is an ultra-left wing, pro-union liberal. Let him eat sh!t. Another moron that got caught up in the moment. Kind’a like tying one on and waking up with a skank the next morning and saying “my God what have I done?”.


45 posted on 08/11/2011 6:11:20 AM PDT by mmanager
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To: Liz
RE:"The scariest words in the history of the US was when Pres-elect Obama told a crowd, "We are hours away from fundamentally changing America." They crowd clapped and cheered."

How about when the first victim First lady Michelle told us that she and Barrack will not let us be comfortable again?

I dont remember hearing that from Nancy Reagan in 1980.

46 posted on 08/11/2011 6:15:55 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Second Amendment First

No Mr. McClellan, the blame goes to idiots like you that gave money, time and your votes to obama. Just idiots like you and no one else.


47 posted on 08/11/2011 6:19:11 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Second Amendment First

This is interesting. Watch for more of these types of stories. Last night, Chris Matthews actually had a segment that was critical of Obama. It was about Obama’s lack of leadership. He was asking his two guests what Obama had to do to project himself as a strong leader. I paid attention because the two guests where Bill Richardson and Robert Reich, both Billary men. It made me wonder if Hillary is sticking her toe in the water trying to determine if she could successfully challenge Obama in a primary.


48 posted on 08/11/2011 6:20:52 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Second Amendment First
Hillary's is nothing but the Marxist 8-track version of Obama.

"Eight years in the grinder"? What a joke.

After failing at the debacle of "Hillarycare", the slug went back underground and worked behind the scenes at destroying the country, insulating herself from accountability and ultimately sailing into office as Senator on her husband's coattails.

49 posted on 08/11/2011 6:21:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: annelizly

and they say leftists don’t have a religion...


50 posted on 08/11/2011 6:24:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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