England Used to Be a Country of Men (Something has changed in the English character)

National Review ^ | 08/11/2011 | Frank Miniter

[Madame Dufarge]

One of the recent articles I read in an English newspaper (can't remember which one) reported that the cops are afraid of getting sued if they respond too harshly to the rioters.

So, I'd say they're pretty much doomed.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

I wish they hadn’t cited the raging sadomasochistic homosexual T. E. Lawrence as an example of manliness. Even the best his apologists can do is explain his later behavior on his having been raped and humiliated by the Turks as their prisoner.

Otherwise, a officer paying enlisted men to flog him is unseemly at best, and fraternization at worst. But be that as it may, he is as much a homosexual icon today as is Oscar Wilde or Quentin Crisp, “One of England’s stately homos.”

[Kenton]

Two World Wars killed off the best of the English stock.

50 years of cultural Marxism and feminist de-masculinization did the rest. Live on your feet, or die on your knees...

[P.O.E.]

Liberalism has taken over from religion.

The original sin is racism (they tried global warming, too, but the solar system wouldn’t play along).

You must give to the poor (funneling through the government, of course, who will reward based on how faithful the receiver is to the cause).

You must petition the government for mercy, bounty, charity, etc.

Tithing (to the gov’t coffers) is no longer limited to 10%.

Britain has bought into this and been cowed into the state they are in.

[wjcsux]

“The men who beat their swords into plowshares will eventually plow the fields of those who didn’t.”-Benjamin Franklin

[BitWielder1]

And Norwegians used to be Vikings.
They too have been wussified.

[Crapgame]

There is more truth to this than most realize. History is not kind to superpowers. Those nations that are able to establish empires and fight the world’s wars, inevitably lose so much of the “warrior gene”. Not all men carry this. Those predisposed to military and law enforcement service carry it to a larger degree than most but even in those cases not all do. When your nation is at war over a long period of time, that pool is naturally reduced. It happened to Rome, it happened to Spain, it happened to Britain, France and Germany and Japan. Now Germany, France and Japan were never superpowers but they were very much regional powers with global imperial aspirations. Will it happen to us?

Of course you might also draw the connection that the reduction of the “warrior gene” in the national stock leads to a parallel effect of increased socialism as well. Government imposed socialism acting as a false promise of protection and provision for those who refuse to do for themselves and their community. Just some thoughts I’ve been tossing around lately as I’ve been reading about the Roman Empire and comparing it to the recent violence in England and our own national decline.

[kabumpo]

I have been saying, for years: “England is a nation of alcoholic lesbians - and I’m talking about the men.”

[dead]

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[1raider1]

The British Isles are just that... islands. They have a small reservoir of fresh water. For 50 years, due to contraceptives, they have been dumping large amounts of female hormones into this reservoir. You figure it out.

[Psalm 144]

Two World Wars killed off the best of the English stock.

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There is much truth in that. I have heard (very drunk) Russians discuss this with respect to WWII and Stalin’s purges as well. They called the phenomenon of killing their best stock ‘devolution’.

I would add to this that socialism is dehumanizing. It suppresses normal human creativity and ambition, and substitutes a numb servility that is hard to shake. England is rotten with it, and already started with the mindset of ‘subjects’.

[bgill]

At one time, the sun never set on the British Empire. We are now witnessing the sun setting on them.

[Psalm 144]

I kinda disagree. We have seen vids of men in towns and neighborhoods band together to fight back.

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There, as here with the Tea Party etc., the resistance comes from what the coddled ‘elites’ would dismiss as ‘lower classes’. It is the same in Russia. “Bitter clingers”, in other words.

[Psalm 144]

RE: Jesus Christ is Lord of the warfare.

Physical or Spiritual?

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Both, in fact.

[dfwgator]

“For nearly a thousand years England has not seen the campfires of an invader. The stormy sea and our royal navy have been our sure defense. Not only have we preserved our life and freedom through the centuries, but gradually we have come to be the heart and center of an empire which surrounds the globe.

It is indeed with a pang of stabbing pain that we see all this in mortal danger. A thousand years has served to form a state; an hour may lay it in dust.

What shall we do? Many people think that the best way to escape war is to dwell upon its horrors and to imprint them vividly upon the minds of the younger generation. They flaunt the grisly photograph before their eyes. They fill their ears with tales of carnage. They dilate upon the ineptitude of generals and admirals. They denounce the crime as insensate folly of human strife. Now, all this teaching ought to be very useful in preventing us from attacking or invading any other country, if anyone outside a madhouse wished to do so, but how would it help us if we were attacked or invaded ourselves that is the question we have to ask.

Would the invaders consent to hear Lord Beaverbrook’s exposition, or listen to the impassioned appeals of Mr. Lloyd George? Would they agree to meet that famous South African, General Smuts, and have their inferiority complex removed in friendly, reasonable debate? I doubt it. I have borne responsibility for the safety of this country in grievous times. I gravely doubt it.

But even if they did, I am not so sure we should convince them, and persuade them to go back quietly home. They might say, it seems to me, “you are rich; we are poor. You seem well fed; we are hungry. You have been victorious; we have been defeated. You have valuable colonies; we have none. You have your navy; where is ours? You have had the past; let us have the future.” Above all, I fear they would say, “you are weak and we are strong.”

-Winston Churchill (1934)

[The Toll]

There was a time when a gentleman could dispatch a thug with a pistol if need be and if any legal action resulted, both actors reputations would be entered into evidence.

Law abiding, upstanding member of the community vs. a character with a known criminal past = end of the matter.

If this system returns, we will have civility.

[wardaddy]

ENGLAND IS STILL 88% WHITE (or ethnic native if u prefer)...

a fact lost here as we all moan how things there have fallen...and I confess to being a cheerleader

but fact is they are in a much stronger position to preserve their culture

two cavets:

Islam is 2.5% and growing much faster than replacement level whites...this is their big issue...the black population there is only 1.9%...(ours is 12.6)

Then there are the CHAVS...basically what we would call wiggers...there is no other word...do we have to write out the big long explanation about whites who become the low end of black culture?

Without the Chavs joining in...the black riots would have been much more insignificant

We do indeed have folks who come to the US for the dole...no question...but we also have folks come to work for as cheap labor but unlike when i was a kid they do not go home now

Problem England has is the legacy of owning much of the world's real estate and thinking they can assimilate former subjects and that former subjects even want to assimilate.

But what scares me is that we are actually in worse shape if things ever truly go off...in our urban areas....no doubt. And we are farther along the Camp of The Saints highway demographically than England is...we just haven't boiled up the same yet

[wardaddy]

excellent post...single mothering is cultural disaster

[Winniesboy]

Those nations that are able to establish empires and fight the world’s wars, inevitably lose so much of the “warrior gene”. Not all men carry this. Those predisposed to military and law enforcement service carry it to a larger degree than most but even in those cases not all do. When your nation is at war over a long period of time, that pool is naturally reduced.

I've always been deeply sceptical of that argument as applied to the British in the twentieth century (as it often is), for a number of reasons.

Firstly because so many of those who fought and died in the two world wars were conscripts, so it was a matter of chance whether or not they had a predisposition to the military life. Secondly because the random nature of the destruction in industrialised modern warfare made it a matter of chance whether those killed were or were not the bravest. Thirdly because the genes of many who were killed survived, either through offspring conceived before their death or through siblings (of both sexes) who shared their genes and survived the wars. Fourthly because large numbers of men carrying the 'warrior gene' were either too young or too old to fight during those war years. And finally because the numbers of fatalities as a percentage of the number serving and as a percentage of the total population, even in the much larger losses of the First World War, were not enough to significantly change the national gene pool.

[wardaddy]

The August 9 issue of the Daily Mail, for example, includes a photo of a young man taking off his pants on the street as an impatient looter waits with the emasculated Briton’s sneakers and shirt already in his hands

Note how the author of this piece conveniently leaves the race of the perp out....this is what the problem is..when race matters and it sure as hell did the first two nights of these riots then no one will mention it...it was amazing the Daily Mail actually ran the pic

But here...National Review and they won't mention it?

It's ridiculous...this refusal of whites to recognize race issues sitting on their face..even writers for so called conservative magazines.

Imagine had it been a white man or men assaulting a black man....the media would be all over it...and Obama would be too.

Ever look in a newsroom lately?

Gay, Femme, Black and Hispanic...maybe some old white guy waiting to die...sure they use pretty white girls and the occasional mixed race lovely to talk the news but who puts it all together in the process to their newsreader

The very folks who don't want the truth out unless it suits them.