Skip to comments.CNN Poll: Perry enters race in virtual tie with Romney, Bachmann fades
Posted on 08/11/2011 8:38:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Texas Governor Rick Perry will upend the Republican presidential primary with his entry this weekend, CNN’s latest national poll shows. He starts off in a virtual tie with Mitt Romney, 17/15, with his nearest competitors at 12%. Perhaps most surprisingly, Michele Bachmann isn’t among them — and her support gets cut almost in half with Perry’s candidacy:
According to a CNN/ORC International poll, 15 percent of Republicans and independents who lean towards the GOP pick Perry as their first choice for their party’s nomination, just two points behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who’s making his second bid for the White House. Romney’s two point margin over Perry is within the survey’s sampling error.
The poll’s Thursday release comes two days before Perry gives a speech at a major conservative gathering in South Carolina where his staff has indicated he will make his intentions for a presidential run clear. Later in the day Perry travels to New Hampshire to meet with GOP lawmakers, activists, and voters. Perry’s travels Saturday come as the rest of the political spotlight will be shining on Iowa, for a crucial presidential straw poll in Ames. Perry heads to Iowa Sunday to speak at a Republican party gathering, which means he will visit three of the crucial early voting primary and caucus states this weekend.
The survey indicates that former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who is making his third bid for the White House, are at 12 percent apiece. While both Giuliani, who ran for the presidency four years ago, and Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008, have flirted with bids, neither has taken concrete steps towards launching a campaign.
Three weeks ago, Perry scored 14% but Giuliani, Palin, and Bachmann all scored 13% or 12%. Now Bachmann has dropped to 7%, a fall of five points and the biggest decline in the field for the period. Ron Paul has picked up four points to surpass her and join Giuliani and Palin in a three-way tie for third place.
Bachmann isn’t the only candidate trending downward, but the rest are in the second tier. Herman Cain dropped two points to 4%, while Tim Pawlenty dropped one to come in at 2%. Both of these candidates need breakout performances in Iowa, which was well known before this week. If CNN’s series is not an outlier, Bachmann may need one as well, now that Perry has come closer to tossing his hat in the ring. She has been wowing crowds in Iowa this week in advance of the debate and straw poll, so she is doing all she can on the ground, but that may not be enough — at least not this week.
Time Magazine’s Mark Halperin interviewed Perry this week about his plans:
Perry will bury Barry......
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO OF THE INTERVIEW.
A highlight from the transcript:
Q: Youve talked about how all of the social issues are important and this election is going to be about what the voters care most about: economy and jobs. Is it your hope, if you become a candidate, that even voters who disagree with you on social issues will find your record and argument on jobs so compelling that they vote for you even though they did disagree with you?
A: Well, Im pretty sure there has never been a candidate [where] all the people agree with his or her positions on the issues. And there are single-issue voters, and I understand that. I respect that. Ive run three times in Texas and I would suggest to you, Texas is somewhat of a microcosm of the rest of the country, particularly in this first decade of the 21st century. We are very, very cosmopolitan, if you will, very urban, but we have our rural areas. We have an incredible diversity of people [who] live in this state. This is not the Texas of my father. It is a very diverse state. Running for the governorship of the state of Texas, I recognized all the diversity of thought.
So, whats the most important thing thats facing this country? Its getting this economy back. I am a pro-business governor. I will be a pro-business President if this does, in fact, ensue and Im blessed to be elected President of the United Statesunabashedly [so] because the fact of the matter is, theres nothing more important than having an environment created by government that allows for the private sector to risk its capital to know that they have a good chance of having a return on the investment. Because at that particular point in time, the men and women who are out of work today can be back employed. They can take care of their family. They can do the things they desire in their lives. And without that strong economy, America cant be strong militarily. We cant have, frankly a presence in the world that we need to have. It all goes back to having an economy that people are comfortable withthey can risk their capital and theyll have a return on the investment. We dont have that today.
Q: There are people whove looked upeven though youre not yet a candidateyour record and your endorsement of Mayor Giuliani in the last campaign, some of the positions youve taken on immigration, etcetera, and they say Rick Perry is not actually as conservative as he says. What do you say to those people?
A: Well, you know, I stand on my record. I thought Mayor Giuliani did a wonderful job of managing a city. He was very strong militarily. He was as strong on crime as any big city Mayor has ever been. He and I were 180 degrees on social issues, but he would put strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, which dealt with those social issues. I happen to be comfortable that I was making the right decisions and that as President, when it comes to those social issues, its very important to have that strict constructionist view of who you put on the Supreme Court. Because theyd look at the constitution and say, you know what, that issue dealing with abortion is not in the constitution. We will put it back to the states. Now if the states want to pass an amendment and three quarters of the states want to pass an amendment to make this be a change of our United States constitution, then just follow that process. And Im a big believer that thats how our country should work.
Q: So if you got in, would you be the most conservative candidate in the race? Or as conservative as everybody else?
A: Yeah I dont think theres any doubt about that. But again, we go back to whats the most important issue here? I mean if somebody wants to go back and find, oh heres a little spot right hereyou know, I was a democrat at one time in my life. I was 25 years old before I think I ever met a person who would admit being a Republican. So the key is, Ive got a record. And that record, particularly when it comes to the most important issues in this campaign, which is creating the climate of America that gives incentives to job creators to risk their capital and create jobs for our citizens, I will put that up against anybody whos running and particularly against this President we have today, whose jobs record is abysmal.
Not crazy about Perry, but I would certainly prefer him to Myth McRomney.
romney’s sucha doofus.
... and who knows, he might actually follow through on a thing or two he talks about.
Me either. Im thinking very strongly Perry is Bush by another name. What we dont need now is another RINO.
Romney MUST be stopped, then may the best person win after that.
Aug. 5-7 (Latest CNN Poll) and July 18-20
Romney 17% 16%
Perry 15% 14%
Giuliani 12% 13%
Palin 12% 13%
Paul 12% 8%
Bachmann 7% 12%
Gingrich 5% 4%
Cain 4% 6%
Huntsman 4% 1%
Pawlenty 2% 3%
Santorum 2% 2%
Johnson * *
McCotter * *
Someone else (vol.) 2% 1%
None/ No one (vol.) 4% 8%
No opinion 2% 1%
Expect a big change to this poll when Sarah declares one way or the other. If if it’s NO then look for Perry to zoom to the top, Bachmann to make a bit of a comeback and Romney to fall to 2nd place.
If it’s YES then I expect it to be Romney first and Palin & Perry tied for second and Ron Paul close behind. But we could be surprised. It might be Palin first.
Time will tell.
How much do the media hate and try to destroy Perry? That’s the real measure. That’s the person to support.
Bush was TANG, Perry Air Force
Perry is an Eagle Scout and involved in the Boy Scouts
Bush went to Yale, Perry went to Texas A&M
Bush is a "compassionate Conservative" Perry is not compassionate, meaning giving other people's money away to show his compassion.
Interviews with 1,008 adult Americans ...
I believe this would favor Romney when compared to a Likely Voter poll. More liberal and better name recognition than Perry. With real voters I would bet Perry is actually ahead of Romney. And perhaps Palin as well.
If Perry is going to be a Romney Killer, I’m on board. Jump on in Rick.
Perry is different then Bush in some key areas. Most notably he’s not as likely to lay down under partisan attacks. But he is far from without flaw. There isn’t one candidate rumored or actually running that I don’t have some issue with.
But as of this moment the way I see the race is that it is between Bachmann, Perry and Romney. Romney wins the nomination if one of the other two can’t emerge as the consensus choice of conservatives. I despise Romney and do not want to end up with another McCain because of conservative infighting.
Bachmann never had a serious chance. Perry certainly does. Perry/Palin might be the best bet.
The Republican nominee will be either Romney or Rick Perry. Michelle Bachmann is very good, she’ll get primary votes, but she will never be able to raise the money that Perry and Romney can raise the big bucks and are doing so right now. Money is what you need to win. Money and votes and hard working volunteers
You can hate Romney and Perry but either one can beat Bammy Boy by at least 15 points. One of my happiest days will be January 21 2013 when a Republican President is inaugurated
What we don't need is another term of Obama. We won't survive it. Perry is not perfect, but would likely clean Barry's clock in the election.
hear-hear ! From your lips to God’s ears.
RE: Perry is not perfect, but would likely clean Barry’s clock in the election.
Will America vote for another Texan?
Does Rick Perry now admit that what he did with the Gardasil fiasco was a mistake?
I’ll agree with everything excepy Romney beating Obama.
Romney = RomneyCare = ObamaCare
Romney is a liberal, he won’t win.
I think so too. A lot of people will get on here and whine about him but he certainly is a winner. He’s got a lot of moxy and is a fighter. Some of these goofs in this race are either not viable or not even serious candidates. Perry is more than conservative enough and he will take it to Obama’s thugs.
The lack of conservative governors in this primary is startling.
Governors make good presidents. That is Bachmann’s biggest liability.
Romney is a polished turd, but he was also a governor....so that, and name recognition, explains some of his support.
Huntsman/Pawlenty are very weak men, Republicans do not want weakness.
Perry, while flawed, is the best conservative governor we have available right now.
If Perry decides to get in, I then hope Palin decides to stay out or we will be back to splitting the vote again.
We learned from Obama/2008 how superficial American voters are. I saw Hannity last night and Mitt Romney was on. He looks very clean, handsome and honest. Nice head of black hair which makes him look youthful. He comes across great on TV. This alone will get him tens of million of votes. The American public does not perceive Mitt Romney as a liberal and I doubt he needs a teleprompter to speak coherently
You aren't intelligent enough to be president if you need a teleprompter
How does Perry = Bush?
Get to liking him, this is a two person race between Perry and Romney.
Duhhh don’t you know. Bush is from TX, Perry is from TX. They are the same.. uhhhhh huh huh huh uhhh.
I agree that Bachmann lacks money, lacks executive experience (as governor or majority leader) and lacks crossover appeal although I admire her toughness and principles.
The only three candidates who can really take the nomination are Palin, Perry and Romney. Palin would no-doubt be the best conservative president but will she attract enough people outside her base to beat Obama?
Romney has a lot of crossover appeal and has the wealth to stay in the race but he lacks sincerity in many of his conservative positions and his RomneyCare history is going to take one of our best issues off the table. The thought is that, even if he beats Obama, he won’t roll back Obama. Plus, there’s the unknown factor of anti-Mormon bigotry that could prevent him from winning.
That leaves Perry who also has some credibility problems with conservatives but will appeal to most of them while his success as governor will appeal to a lot of moderates and independents. He can be positioned as the antidote to Obama on a number of fronts. Will he actually roll back Obama if elected? Hard to say but he probably has the best chance of uniting Republicans, beating Obama and turning America back on the right course.
My heart wants Sarah to win but my brain tells me Perry has the best chance to actually win and revoke Obamunism.
RE: If Perry decides to get in, I then hope Palin decides to stay out or we will be back to splitting the vote again.
Perry is scheduled to make a formal announcement this weekend. As for Palin... well what to say? All I am hearing are her enthusiastic supporters telling us that she’s running but see no evidence of her even organizing anything.
You can tell the MSM fears Obama is going to lose. They are increasingly desperate to pick our nominee.
Maybe a Perry/Bachmann ticket?
Maybe a Palin/Perry ticket?
Maybe a Perry/Palin ticket?
Any of the three would be fine, frankly, and about a TRILLION percent improvement over what we have now.
God save the United States of America.
The Obama campaign (MSM & Democrats) will try to push the "Not another Texas governor" theme, but I don't think it will get much traction. It's a weak weapon.
Americans will be getting Rick rolled with Perry, he is not a conservative
We need 12-15 million swing votes to win. Neither Bachmann nor Palin() can get that many to shift.
Good points. There’s alot about Perry I like. There’s alot I don’t. Not candidate is perfect.
We need to make sure we focus on a Tea Party Congress. I doubt any GOP prez is going to veto any legislation coming out of that, except maybe for Romney.
Perry will come in to help the elites stop Bachman. Then it will be handed to Romney. It’s his turn. Hope I’m wrong.
Yeah, I’m betting Perry is the next POTUS.
Good points all. But Romney as the nominee takes ObamaCare off the table as a campaign issue.
Personally, I would love to see a Perry/Cain ticket!
Romney = Howard Dean’s lead in ‘03.
It’s a myth that he will get the nomination.
Perry will bury him.
Vote Rick Perry! Because we just can’t get enough of that good ol’ Bush Republicanism!
Because no Republican will ever be good enough for some people!
I’m looking for the person who will unabashedly standup an say that what they have done, promoted or whatever beliefs they hold follow and strengthen the Constitutional principles the Founding Fathers laid out for this Nation. I would have hoped that the persons in tonight’s ‘debate’ along with Perry would be doing this. Perry for me has to explain what is going wrong and how it gets remedied as much as any of the others while the pot is being stirred.
You give Palin flack b/c of her endorsement of McCain, but you give Perry a pass and he’s endorsed mega rinos....
And he IS a RINO to boot. So, still why him over Palin?
Vote Republican! Yeah, we suck, but not quite as bad as Democrats!
There was a news clip either Tuesday or yesterday that said the SRM is heading to Texas to start trying to dig up all the dirt they could find on Perry to use against him.
Well, not always!