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He Speaks (Perry will compete against Obama for California)
Time ^ | August 11, 2011 | Mark Halperin, The Page

Posted on 08/11/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

In an Austin interview with Mark Halperin, Rick Perry says he has decided he wants to be president, talks about the advice he got from George W. Bush, and says he would compete against Barack Obama in California.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepage.time.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; governing; perry; presidency; presidentperry; rickperry
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1 posted on 08/11/2011 11:12:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This guy is a fool.


2 posted on 08/11/2011 11:16:06 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s my top pick right now.


3 posted on 08/11/2011 11:17:08 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He may as well. This will be the last election before California collapses into an insolvent state of spear throwing, Mad Maxian anarchy. We’ll be too busy salvaging stuff from all the Mexicans that went South for a better job market, engaging in inter-yacht-club piracy, and setting up ambushes on the 405 to have time to vote.


4 posted on 08/11/2011 11:20:30 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

look like he’s in....


5 posted on 08/11/2011 11:20:51 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Obama Debt-Laden)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry verses Obama = A great Tea party Candidate opportunity.
6 posted on 08/11/2011 11:21:57 AM PDT by right way right (Whats it gonna take?)
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To: forgotten man
This guy is a fool.

......"So, what’s the most important thing that’s facing this country? It’s getting this economy back. I am a pro-business governor. I will be a pro-business President if this does, in fact, ensue and I’m blessed to be elected President of the United States—unabashedly [so] because the fact of the matter is, there’s nothing more important than having an environment created by government that allows for the private sector to risk its capital to know that they have a good chance of having a return on the investment. Because at that particular point in time, the men and women who are out of work today can be back employed. They can take care of their family. They can do the things they desire in their lives. And without that strong economy, America can’t be strong militarily. We can’t have, frankly a presence in the world that we need to have. It all goes back to having an economy that people are comfortable with—they can risk their capital and they’ll have a return on the investment. We don’t have that today.".....

7 posted on 08/11/2011 11:22:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A generation ago, Republican Presidential candidates, President Reagan in particular, competed coast to coast: New Jersey, California, states that have become, now, reliably democratic. If you ran would you aspire to campaign in California and win that in the general election?


Yes sir, I actually have had that conversation. Now I’m enough of a realist to know that California is a pretty high hurdle for a Republican. But I’m going to go out there and I’m going to have a story that’ll [make] a lot of people—Independents and maybe even some Democrats—look at me and go, “That’s the type of individual that we can get behind. You know to make America proud of itself again.” I think America is an exceptional country. I think we have a great story to tell. I think the world needs a strong America both economically and militarily.

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/2011/08/11/he-speaks/#ixzz1UkF8qQMN


8 posted on 08/11/2011 11:23:17 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Obama Debt-Laden)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
California is LOST to the GOP. Check with “moderates” Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina.
9 posted on 08/11/2011 11:23:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Rick_Michael

=^D


10 posted on 08/11/2011 11:25:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
All joking aside, if Perry forces Obama to try to defend California, it's pretty much science that Obama is so far underwater he'll need to play defense even to keep the Blue strongholds safe.

This is an aggressive shot over the DNC bow and I freaking like it.

11 posted on 08/11/2011 11:26:45 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I hardly expect candidates to concede Cali over a year before the election.

What Perry actually said was that he would campaign there and expected to win some support from Indies & Dems. No mention of wasting tens of millions in futile advertising.

12 posted on 08/11/2011 11:28:41 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: Steel Wolf

Halperin: A lot of people have said President Obama will be tough to beat because he’s a very formidable fundraiser. What kind of confidence do you have that you would be able to go toe to toe with him raising money.

Perry: I think it will be quite competitive in the fundraising side.

Halperin: So that doesn’t intimidate you or worry you at all?

Perry: Not a bit.


13 posted on 08/11/2011 11:29:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Crichton

H: If you ran would you aspire to campaign in California and win that in the general election?

P: Yes sir, I actually have had that conversation....


14 posted on 08/11/2011 11:32:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: forgotten man

“This guy is a fool.”

You have no idea what you’re talking about.


15 posted on 08/11/2011 11:33:08 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Big mistake. Every election, Republicans waste millions of dollars on California that should be used elsewhere.


16 posted on 08/11/2011 11:33:44 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thank you, I can read. Point?


17 posted on 08/11/2011 11:35:59 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: forgotten man

“Under the leadership of Gov. Rick Perry, Texas has championed and built upon the concepts my father used to rebuild America in the 1980s.” — Michael Reagan


18 posted on 08/11/2011 11:40:16 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: green iguana

He has no chance of being competitive in California. Why waste limited resources running for president in California? Those resource should go someplace where a Republican has a chance. Remember last November when the
Republicans put money into Carly Fiorina’s campaign. That money could have been used in the Colorado senatorial campaign where the Republican candidate narrowly lost. If Rick Perry thinks that he has any chance in California he has very bad judgement.


19 posted on 08/11/2011 11:40:16 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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20 posted on 08/11/2011 11:40:36 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’d vote for Perry or Romney - my two top choices with all the rest, including those not running, not able to win.


21 posted on 08/11/2011 11:41:35 AM PDT by existentialist
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To: forgotten man
If Rick Perry thinks that he has any chance in California he has very bad judgement.

You may notice that Perry did not say he had a reasonable chance to win California or that he would spend a dime in California.

22 posted on 08/11/2011 11:42:15 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He just has to tell California how much they’re business climate sucks vs. Texas and he’ll have an audiance.


23 posted on 08/11/2011 11:42:40 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner

their


24 posted on 08/11/2011 11:46:00 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: forgotten man

California will be in such terrible economic shape by the time of next year’s election, that almost any of the current candidates vying for the Republican nomination will be competitive.

All politics is local, and that locality will be hurting big time.


25 posted on 08/11/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: forgotten man

Well, it doesn’t hurt to try. I say go for it!


26 posted on 08/11/2011 11:55:20 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; patriot8
I just listened to the second clip there, it appears the myth propagated by most Perry supporters at FR that he is at odds with the Bush family is patently false. Perry says he has a close personal relationship with the entire family in this interview.

Interesting, yes?

27 posted on 08/11/2011 11:55:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Crichton
Thank you, I can read. Point?

Can you think?

28 posted on 08/11/2011 12:00:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lakeshark

I think Perry will draw everyone together and sweep the election.


29 posted on 08/11/2011 12:01:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

he would not be my first choice but if he is the GOP choice I will work very hard for him.
There is no 1005 idlea candidate that will appeal to everyone but Perry will come across as pretty attractive to many.

Califronia!!! How funny, didn’t they just vote to do away with the electoral system in their state?
meaning they will apportion their votes based on % of votes cast
SO whoever the GOP candidate is will get some calif electoral votes.
calif screwed themselves
Texas, as second biggest block of electoral votes did NOT change so no matter how many votes the loser ( 0dumbo)get he will not gt a single texas electoral vote
YeeHaw


30 posted on 08/11/2011 12:02:30 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Lakeshark
Interesting, yes?

Yep, if they got any closer, why George W. Bush and his father may have considered actually endorsing him in the general election against a democrat....I'm sure they though about it, I'm sure they came real close, maybe just by a hair to doing it........who knows, now that they are buddies, maybe they can actually get over the hump and endorse him.....

I actually thought it was odd that Poppy Bush endorsed Perrys primary opponent, but when the general election came around and Perry was facing a democrat, he suddenly was AWOL.

31 posted on 08/11/2011 12:02:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I imagine you think you’re posting some kind of point or counter-point, but it’s really just a fragmented quote. If you have a point, elucidate, instead of being a jackass.


32 posted on 08/11/2011 12:04:12 PM PDT by Crichton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He may, but you have to admit, you and some others gave us a load of bull about the rift between Perry and the Bush clan.

The idea that he couldn't be tarred with being a second W, from the right or the left has been debunked now.

33 posted on 08/11/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
I just listened to the second clip there, it appears the myth propagated by most Perry supporters at FR that he is at odds with the Bush family is patently false. Perry says he has a close personal relationship with the entire family in this interview.

The tensions between Bush and Perry are well documented, but I think Perry has tried to bury the hatchet. He doesn't want the Bush clan actively opposing him, though I doubt if any will endorse him in the primaries. There is no contradiction.

34 posted on 08/11/2011 12:09:05 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: RWGinger

CRAP
How stupid are californians??
What they just did was, all calif electoral votes will go to the candidate that vets the most votes NATIONALLY.

That is purely purely stupid.
I guess it does help 0dumbo but why would californians give up their vote?
geez what a freakin stupid thing they did


35 posted on 08/11/2011 12:15:26 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: CA Conservative

The contradiction is in how it’s been presented by the Perry supporters in defending him from those who see him as GWBII. There may have been disagreement, but clearly from this interview they are close personally, and I’d say that’s not particularly comforting to me that he is close with Rove & Co..


36 posted on 08/11/2011 12:15:40 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He Speaks

Of all the nerve, how dare he!

37 posted on 08/11/2011 12:17:26 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: CA Conservative

Barbara want Jeb to run so they will hold out until they see he just will NOT do it.

Hannity had Jeb on lately and asked if he was interested. He said no but I thought he would like to have someone beg him. Too bad the only someone is his mother......

I think Perry has a better chance of winning than Romney. I would love to see Perry and Bachman on the ticket with Palin running for the Kyl’s seat in AZ.


38 posted on 08/11/2011 12:34:49 PM PDT by IceAge
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To: Lakeshark
He may, but you have to admit, you and some others gave us a load of bull about the rift between Perry and the Bush clan.

I have fought posters tooth and nail to explain that it is Karl Rove and his tactics against Perry and his team (including Carney) who have been at odds.

This continued with Rove and the "Bush team" working with Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison to defeat Perry in the 2010 election so she would return to Texas and the Governor's seat. AND it appears that this faction (from what is discernible in the media) is backing Romney. I did not put this on a Bush vs Perry footing.

I've also had to dispel this Bush II stuff -- The Bushes are from money and elite schools; Perry is hardscrabble, an Aggie and has worked his butt off to achieve his goals.

39 posted on 08/11/2011 12:36:52 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: IceAge; All
Jon Huntsman gets Jeb Bush Jr.'s endorsement for 2012 "His campaign said Bush Jr. will serve as national co-chair of GenH, with the mission to reach out to young people."..................
40 posted on 08/11/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: pallis

At least set the framework by educating the leftists or the dumb ones what is really at stake. If they choose the Leftist loser ways again then so be it. Ca will re-elect Obama unless it turns into North Korea and then it becomes a battleground state.


41 posted on 08/11/2011 12:44:52 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m not anti-Perry, but this is the second time I have to admit to second thoughts on an issue with him. I really don’t want someone who is comfortable with the present GOP establishment. I’d rather have someone who makes the GOP elite kick and scream while forcing them to join his position, much like Reagan did.


42 posted on 08/11/2011 12:45:40 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: forgotten man; fieldmarshaldj
First, you have to campaign nation wide, even in places where you might not win. It's military common sense that "he who can't skin holds a leg." Grant understood that, and so did Ike.

Second, I'm still not convinced CA is gone. Yep, you cite Fiorina and Whitman, but neither of those were as conservative as Perry. I think that if you even have a shot in CA, quite the opposite from the "conventional wisdom," you have to offer a CLEAR choice and that a more conservative candidate would do better than a moderate. DJ, what do you know about Bush 04 vs. McCain 08---again, with caveats that they weren't entirely similar races?

43 posted on 08/11/2011 12:47:42 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: RWGinger

That was moonbeam Governor Brown....I believe...not sure whether it is legal...


44 posted on 08/11/2011 12:48:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Lakeshark
.....There may have been disagreement, but clearly from this interview they are close personally, and I’d say that’s not particularly comforting to me that he is close with Rove & Co..

You're like a dog with a favorite chew bone.

If Rick Perry gets in, will Karl Rove be out?

45 posted on 08/11/2011 12:49:20 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cheerio

“California is LOST to the GOP. Check with “moderates” Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina.”

Maybe we should run a Conservative GOP instead????? Worked for Reagan!


46 posted on 08/11/2011 12:53:16 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: green iguana

You’re too kind.


47 posted on 08/11/2011 12:54:09 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I didn't click your link, because it seems you didn't actually hear what he said about his relation to the Bush family, did you? It's in the link you posted, both by transcript and audio.

Call that a chew bone if you like, I call it a problem for conservatives looking for a candidate.

48 posted on 08/11/2011 12:55:51 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The lege voted for it and Brown signed it
The change approved by Brown will occur only if it is adopted by states with a majority of the electoral votes in the country. California is the eighth state to approve the new system.

so for now nothing changes and won’t change in near future. Texas and Florida will not likely agree. NY will. Pa and Ohio? who knows

I thought what had happened was like in some state that voted to split electoral votes based on % each candidate gets
but this is much worse


49 posted on 08/11/2011 12:57:01 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Lakeshark

“they are close personally, and I’d say that’s not particularly comforting to me that he is close with Rove & Co..’

That did it. I am voting for Obama instead (/SARCASM!)

Do you want Obama defeated or don’t you?


50 posted on 08/11/2011 1:03:00 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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