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USPS proposes cutting 120,000 jobs, pulling out of health-care plan
washingtonpost.com ^ | August 11, 2011 | Joe Davidson

Posted on 08/11/2011 3:05:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

In an attempt to stem its financial hemorrhaging, the U.S. Postal Service is seeking to reduce its workforce by 20 percent, including through layoffs now prohibited by union contracts. USPS also wants to withdraw its employees from the health and retirement plans that cover federal staffers and create its own benefit programs for postal employees.

This major restructuring of the Postal Service’s relationship with its workforce would need congressional approval and would face fierce opposition from postal unions. But if approved, eliminating contract provisions that prevent layoffs and quitting the federal employee health and retirement programs could have ramifications for workers across the government and throughout the national’s labor movement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: layoffs; obamacare; postal; postoffice; usmail; uspostalservice; usps

1 posted on 08/11/2011 3:05:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Now is the time!


2 posted on 08/11/2011 3:09:46 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There are a lot of post office branches that could be closed and returned to the tax rolls. Would business really be hurt if postal service was reduced to 3 days a week? I doubt it. The private sector could pick up any priority mail.


3 posted on 08/11/2011 3:09:50 PM PDT by MovementConservative (Go Mariners! 2012!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If USPS runs into too much resistance, I’d like to remind them there is 9.2% (as if that were the real figure) of our workforce out of work today. I’m not convinced they’d demand what the unions are.

Steady work at a decent wage, with moderate benefits would be fine. And they would agree to set up their own retirement plans too.


4 posted on 08/11/2011 3:11:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer is anti-US, the West, Christian, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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5 posted on 08/11/2011 3:13:19 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m sure the unemployment rate will go down to 8.3% after this happens.


6 posted on 08/11/2011 3:13:47 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is that you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: MovementConservative
Most of the 28,000 essentially useless small postal facilities are ON THE TAX ROLLS. USPS rents them. USPS also pays the taxes separately.

When they abandon them, and the leases run out, the value of the buildings will be dramatically reduced and the property tax rates will be adjusted appropriately.

So much for "returning them to the tax rolls".

BTW, my number "28,000" is much better than the USPS number of "3,500" because it was done with an eye only to operational needs ~ not political expediency!

7 posted on 08/11/2011 3:13:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MovementConservative

I would think that IF it saved a whole heck of a lot of money, going to 4 days a week would be acceptable, as long as it comes along with less pay and fewer workers, which with govt isn’t always the case...


8 posted on 08/11/2011 3:15:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: muawiyah

I know a retired postman who tells me that he and his retired postman wife both collect their pensions and get something close to 100K/year plus full medical benefits. For the rest of their lives.

*sigh*


9 posted on 08/11/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: muawiyah

Most of the closed postal facilities here in Dallas and surrounding smaller communities have been redeveloped pretty damn quickly. Usually into retail, thus BOOSTING the tax rolls.


10 posted on 08/11/2011 3:19:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: muawiyah

With all due respect, why not repeal the private express statutes and allow the marketplace to decide the type, frequency and quality of mail service?


11 posted on 08/11/2011 3:20:02 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A Christmas job or summer job with the Post Office was coveted by my young friends in the 50s & 60s, it always paid far more that other ‘short time’ jobs. It does today with many perks...it wasn’t too long ago that the US Post Office ‘cleaned’ up their arrogant act and required their workers to be polite and kind to customers. Being run by the private sector is long over due......


12 posted on 08/11/2011 3:25:41 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Judith Anne

Your postman dings twice? /rimshot


13 posted on 08/11/2011 3:32:59 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

We are always getting less and less for paying more and more.


14 posted on 08/11/2011 3:33:30 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Just switch them over to ObamaCare. If it’s good enough for us peons, it’s good enough for postal workers.


15 posted on 08/11/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Obama administration has discovered that Unemployment benefits create jobs !!!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/10/carney_unemployment_benefits_could_create_up_to_1_million_jobs.html

Therefore, We need more unemployment to stimulate the economy.

Start now. Start with government workers. The more, the better.


16 posted on 08/11/2011 3:35:20 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just switch them over to ObamaCare

Did I hear somebody say "waiver" ??

17 posted on 08/11/2011 3:36:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: txhurl

Yep.

My husband died before retiring and never collected SS. I sure would like to get what he paid in all those years...


18 posted on 08/11/2011 3:37:08 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! Why...why...

The USPS is trying to operate just like a REAL business, and we cannot allow that to happen!

What’s next...term limits for Congress Critters?

Oh, the horror, the horror...


19 posted on 08/11/2011 3:38:19 PM PDT by moovova (“There is nothing wrong with our country,” Obama said in a speech at a Holland, Mich. plant.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Everything is working perfectly, according to 0bama’s plan.


20 posted on 08/11/2011 3:54:52 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Despite continued cost-cutting efforts that include a reduction of 7,500 administrative positions, the U.S. Postal Service lost $3.1 billion in the third quarter of the fiscal year as mail volume continued to plunge. Postal officials said Friday that they will be forced to default on payments to the federal government by fall if Congress does not act.

The loss for the quarter that ended June 30 narrowed from $3.5 billion during the same period in fiscal 2010. But the Postal Service said it will have a cash shortfall and will have reached its legal borrowing limit by the end of the fiscal year, when it must make a $5.5 billion payment to a trust fund for health benefits for retirees.

The Postal Service expects to lose as much as $9 billion this year.

Donahoe has been lobbying Congress to pass legislation that would eliminate the health fund prepayment and give the agency access to a pension fund into which it has overpaid. He is also pushing to eliminate Saturday service, a proposal that could save $3 billion a year but that has proven unpopular with members of Congress.

21 posted on 08/11/2011 4:08:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Can’t help but think that the underlying problem is unions.


22 posted on 08/11/2011 4:09:31 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: cherry
The agency announced in July that it has targeted about 3,600 unprofitable post offices for closure in the next year. Another 700 announced last fall also are on the chopping block.

Donahoe has been lobbying Congress to pass legislation that would eliminate the health fund prepayment and give the agency access to a pension fund into which it has overpaid. He is also pushing to eliminate Saturday service, a proposal that could save $3 billion a year but that has proven unpopular with members of Congress.

23 posted on 08/11/2011 4:10:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

Postal service pulling out of healthcare? I thought Obamacare was going to cut costs of healthcare!


24 posted on 08/11/2011 4:26:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (/s)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; newzjunkey

“USPS also wants to withdraw its employees from the health and retirement plans that cover federal staffers”

So, I guess the postman ain’t as good as the officeman?


25 posted on 08/11/2011 4:45:18 PM PDT by ngat
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To: Judith Anne

and they probably retired around age 50 or so...I would imagine.


26 posted on 08/11/2011 4:59:35 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Mr. Lucky

And while their at it, spin off Amtrak. It’s the same sorry story.


27 posted on 08/11/2011 11:20:25 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Judith Anne

Have you checked with your local Social Security office to see what your benefits as a widow might be? My brother in law was told to apply at age 62 for my deceased sister’s benefit, which is a higher amount than his.


28 posted on 08/11/2011 11:29:09 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik

Yes. We (ss and I) compared it all possible ways.


29 posted on 08/11/2011 11:39:54 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: ntnychik

It’s not the amount that ticks me off, it’s that all the years my husband put in to SS, no one except the freaking government gets any benefit from those dollars.

Sometimes, I have some unpleasant thoughts about the government.


30 posted on 08/11/2011 11:42:04 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

US Postal Service Facing Financial Problems Largely Created by Congress

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30012522#44115351

host says no taxpayer money is used for the operations of the USPS


31 posted on 08/12/2011 6:00:49 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Nachum

considering they can’t even get a package delivered on time, it’s no wonder they are not keeping up with FedX.


32 posted on 08/12/2011 7:09:09 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
We went up to the main post office in Anniston, Alabama a week or so ago to mail a small package. There was ONE counter open! ONE!!! There was a line of about 12-15 people waiting. It wook me 30 minutes to get to the desk. I was 5th in line. During this time, there were at least FOUR and FIVE postal employees who kept coming out and asking if anyone had bla bla bla. But NONE of them opened a drawer and assisted customers. At one point there were three employees just standing in the back area there, arms folded, yaking back and forth and doing NOTHING!!! All the while this one guy moved slow, slower and slowest in servicing the line. He would yak with the customers and take even more time. By the time I got there, I said I want to mail this. He started to ask the 30 questions if I needed this, this or that. I said, All I want to do is mail this package and get the heck out of here. Next time, I don't care what the price, I am going to UPS or FedExp. I have had it with the stupid post office.
33 posted on 08/12/2011 10:09:59 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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