Skip to comments.Bomb Kills Five U.S. Troops in South Afghanistan
Posted on 08/11/2011 4:50:24 PM PDT by rlferny
A roadside bomb killed five American troops in southern Afghanistan on Thursday, the U.S. military said, less than a week after American forces suffered their worst single loss of the Afghan war when Taliban insurgents shot down a helicopter.
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What are we trying to accomplish in Afghanistan? Does anyone know?
Many of them were. There is no goal or mission there. It’s a mess and getting worse.
As I understand it we are trying to establish in Afghanistan a government as good as that in Detroit or in Chicago.
For this we have given over 1,600 dead Americans and over 13,000 wounded.Also, we have spent a lot of money, but since 40 percent of it was borrowed from China, I guess that doesn’t count.
“five American troops”
This is something that has gotten on my nerves for years. They should employ the term soldiers. The proper use of the word troops should be to refer to larger groups. In my opinion, the media has been doing this deliberately to inflate the size of our military commitments.
I think it has something to do with the re-election of 0bama.
Your observation is irrelevant. The Afghanistan situation is unrelated to any of those you mentioned. And for the record we still occupy Germany Italy and Japan We have major forces in Korea still. We also have forces in Iraq
The battle is against radical Islam and the battlefield of choice by both sides is Afghanistan.
There are people on this forum who have become liberal pacifists just like they did in the early 70’s. Pacifism kills.
“a government as good as that in Detroit or in Chicago.”
We are aiming high I see!
At this point, I think we're trying to find a path to a dignified exit as opposed to fleeing with our tails between our legs as the Soviets did.
“There are people on this forum who have become liberal pacifists just like they did in the early 70s”
Sorry there bud but I have three (3) sons that have been in this conflict so pacifist I am not. But when your enemy points an RPG at you and you can’t shoot them - there is something very wrong.
This is such bull$HIT! Pull our troops out now and bomb the Taliban strong holds back into the stone age. Our Lib media will sugar coat this to protect the Kenyan King. Sickening!
Afghanistan needs a final solution.
Unlike the situation in Afghanistan, the U.S. laid waste to the Axis powers in World War II and reduced much of their landscape to rubble before occupying them. That's why you didn't have this kind of sh!t going on nearly ten 'effing years after the war against those nations started.
The battle is against radical Islam and the battlefield of choice by both sides is Afghanistan.
The radical Muslims in the royal family of Saudi Arabia -- who continue to rule with the support and protection of the United States government -- thanks you for fixing your gaze on that 6th Century sh!t-hole known as Afghanistan.
I'm ready for our troops to come home, without a doubt.
But, if you're gonna ask the question above, then why aren't you asking why King George III raised taxes on tea in the colonies?
I mean, if you're gonna to live in the past...
A bit late for that.
Re. Iraq, again Pres GW (Doofus) Bush rightly got into Iraq in 2003 to squash Barack Hussein (oops I meant Saddam Hussein), and eliminate his propensity for biological & chemical warfare plus his suppport of Al Queda. Once Saddam was found & arrested and then executed, Bush should have immediately pulled the plug and vacated Iraq asap. Instead the dumb ass kept us over there and allowed the dems to hammer the Repubs in 2004-06 and thereby get control of the House with Nazi Pelosi as speaker. And then to hammer the Repubs even more in 2008 and thereby sweep the commie pig 0dumb0 into his coup d'tat as well as the demoRATs gaining control of the Senate. Thank you Doofus Dumb Ass Bush. And now we have 0dbumb0 continuing the Iraq engagement because it gives him the opportunity again to bash Bush and to spend money like crazy.
The travesty now is that we are continuing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars in two muzzlim cesspools AND our troops are being shot, killed, maimed & persecuted by JAG for politically correct kangaroo trials in which our soldiers are increasingly being arrested & tried & convicted for trumped up ridiculous charges.
But the greatest travesty of all is that our soldiers are being shot, maimed & killed on behalf of that commie pig RAT bastard sonofabitch 0dumb0. I wish every US soldier would refuse orders to go into battle until 0dumb0 resigns from office. What a RAT bastard commie pig. I am calling for the U.S. military to refuse any orders from 0dumb0, other than to immediately vacate & leave Iraq & Afghanistan. WTF are we still doing there, now on behalf of 0dumb0???
I always thought the idea was to cripple Al Qaeda and kill OBL.
Well, Barry spiked the football for a month after the Seals got OBL, and he is still using it as campaign fodder.
Does our President even know that we still have troops in Afghanistan?
One thing we dont have to be concerned about is any of MYTH FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMEYS kids being casualties, the entire clan avoids military service.
It’s a fair question. I think we’ve learned many expensive lessons about ideological blindness.
I don’t think that anyone truly knows. We just kill some Taliban and capture and release others. Our ROE are so screwed up that the Taliban can shoot at our troops from behind women and children with impunity. Obastard has already announced that he is cutting the surge troops and going from being marginally undermanned to grossly undermanned.
I am a very big fan of "More Rubble Less Trouble". It saddens me to no end that we send our brave ones to die for no reason.
We could make some progress if Karzai were to have an "accident".
I say turn that he11 hole into glass. How is that for pacifism!
You are wrong.
BTW, does anyone here believe that we really got those behind the attack on Saturday? That was awfully convenient of them to announce. I don’t buy it for a second.
Not one bit. Has to keep poll numbers up with losing that many special ops
Agreed. Too quick and convenient. If Bambi said the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside and check before I believed it.
I’m right there with you. I find myself questioning every single thing that he says.
God bless their families. May the soldiers rest in peace.
Every word he says is a lie, including and and the.
“Does our President even know that we still have troops in Afghanistan?”
Probably not; don’t you remember one of his daughters wearing the peace sign T-shirt?
Way to support the troops!
it's never what they say,it's what they do
Don’t worry, one of zero’s generals will come out this afternoon (heck maybe during Carney’s press conference) and say we killed the terrorists in a “kinetic” strike (liberal speak since we can’t say anything about killing terrorists we have to resort to phrases from High School Physics)
“They should employ the term soldiers. The proper use of the word troops should be to refer to larger groups.”
We have all branches of the service fighting there so “soldiers” isn’t appropriate either. English doesn’t seem to have a generic term except “service members”.
When I write cards & letters to be included in care packages sent by two groups to which I belong, I have to use the salutation “Dear Service Member” (or “Dear Hero”) because I don’t know where or to whom or to which branch the card/letter/package are going.
In a word—oil. I suggest you Google Soviet Union, oil and Afghanistan. Why do you think they were there?
The Mid East is about two things: Oil and Islamoterrorism. If we were energy independent and there was no Muslim terrorism we would not have to be there.
As for Islamoterrorism: Do you really believe that if we abandoned Afghanistan the ragheads would stop coming? If so, tell me which part(s) of the Islamoterrorist mantra do you not believe? The one that declares simply and clearly that we (Islamoterrorists) will convert, enslave and or kill you.
Moreover, oil and the terrorists are interrelated. If we surrender Afghanistan to Al Queda it will use it to step up its attacks on Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Quatar et al. Given our dependence on Middle East oil, do you think that’s a good thing?
To be sure, I too am frustrated beyond words at our political class and its inability to finish this war. Should not have lasted more than a couple of years; and our full military capability should have been brought to bear. Vietnam all over again.
My son’s a career soldier and on his fifth deployment to the Mid East. So far this deployment his unit has lost 5 killed and 8 wounded and the deployment is only half over. Under the present regime in Wash. I believe our soldiers are risking their lives for nothing. That does not change the overall Mid East political dynamics. Running away from Afghanistan will only embolden Islamoterrorism.
I pray that The Usurping Marxist Onada’s defeat by conservatives in 2012 will bring people to Washington with a will to finish this war with overall victory.
Sadly, it is impossible to totally stop suicide and IED attacks. I’m afraid that will be with us for many years.
I ask that question every day. What is our goal? And knowing Obama’s plan is to have secret peace talks with the Taliban makes me think we are losing precious lives for nothing, absolutely nothing. I wonder why republican candidates are not talking about the wars.
Ya know, that's an awfully interesting thought.
We know the US could never get away with it during a conservative or even moderate administration. But with this crowd, they could easily pull off a massive strike and not be seriously called onto the carpet for it.
Wonder if we could find a stealth conservative, get him elected as a left-wing loon, bomb the stuffing out of our enemies, and call it a day. Nah, the New York Times would blab and give away the secret.
Actually, warrior would be a generic, if archaic, term in English....
I mostly agree with you. But this an enemy like no other. He engages in terrorism as his weapon of choice. I think we should carpet bomb them, kill their leaders, drop bibles over them, and leave.
“What are we trying to accomplish in Afghanistan? Does anyone know?”
It’s called a honey pot. You want to eat in peace from the flies, you put a honey pot on the porch. You want to live in peace here at home from muzzie terrorists, you give them targets in Afghanistan. It works.
true. very correct.
but just as a person is not given sedatives when they have a brain injury, this masks the real problem.
People have been “misunderstanding” Islam for centuries.
Islam itself declares war on all non-sharia countries.
until we follow Sun-Tzu, and learn and admit the truth,
this war will NEVER end.
(and even worse, is tying the hands of our “decoys”,
by the insane ROE.)
and meanwhile, while we are lulled in comfort that all the bad guys are lured to the “honeypot”,
they ARE in the USA, actively working to destroy us:
and we ALREADY have Dearbornistan and secluded Islamist communities in Virginia, and 100+ Islamist Gulen schools,
some even in TEXAS!
Sharia Enclaves in the West...Coming to an American neighborhood near you
American Mosques: Jihads Incubators
Paul Sperrys book, Infiltration:
How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington.
the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to the CHIEF AIDE to the U.S. Secretary of State:
What a waste. For what? This is just part of the price that we all pay as Americans for having people who hate America running America.
This brave young man's sense of duty and supreme sacrifice has been reduced to, using Edmund Burke's phrase in a related context, "an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle".
Yup. Osama’s dead and ‘nation building’ for Afgn is a waste of time. Most of the strikes on the Taliban are with predators which could be operated out of Khazakstan.
I disagree. The very willingness of Americans to go to the ends of the earth and fight and die for their country is part of what keeps us secure. We are safer because there is nowhere so remote that our enemies can hide and feel safe.
But that is a far cry from the current state of mission-creep there, where it got changed to the usual bit of 'nation building', a lost cause. That's 'dying for your country', but to what end?
Too many of our service personnel have been killed or wounded since then attempting the impossible. And now we are at the point to where the 'brightest and the best' in Washington are admitting it, we're pulling out, Afghanistan will revert back to its natural condition as a failed state, and all the blood and treasure will be for naught.
This whole thing could have been largely handled now if the goalposts had not been altered.
Just my view from the saddle.