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Pawlenty Takes on Bachmann in Iowa Debate (Video)
Breitbart ^ | 8/11/11

Posted on 08/11/2011 8:59:42 PM PDT by Nachum

So much for "Minnesota Nice".

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; bachmann; ia2012; iowa; iowadebate; pawlenty; takes
Vid at link
1 posted on 08/11/2011 8:59:48 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

It looked like Paw was wreaking of desperation tonight. I have a feeling that he is short on cash and supporters. He may think that this is the way to boost his profile.


2 posted on 08/11/2011 9:04:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Nachum
The score as I saw it.

3 posted on 08/11/2011 9:09:56 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“He may think that this is the way to boost his profile.”

Probably. But it is not a good way to boost one’s profile or popularity. I thought his attacks were weak sophistry, and her accusations were devastating if true. He did not refute them, just reiterated that she was ineffectual.

I do not want Bachmann as President, but I do want her to keep up the good fight and become a senior legislator. I want to see her and others like her in leadership positions instead of suits like Boehner, McConnell and that ilk.


4 posted on 08/11/2011 9:16:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I'm not a Pawlenty fan, but I thought he hit her effectively on her weakness. She really has no victories, no accomplishments, and she clearly exagerrated her role in leading against those things she spoke about such as Obamacare and CAp and Trade. She was there, but she was not the leader as she implied.

She's a great congresscritter, has a great voting record, but she has zero executive experience, and if she were to be our nominee, she'd be beat like a drum because of that weakness.

5 posted on 08/11/2011 9:16:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Nachum

Pawlenty is trying to show Perry and Romney he would make a good VP for either of them. That he would carry the fight to Biden in the VP debate.


6 posted on 08/11/2011 9:19:58 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Nachum

I thought Newt won clearly - and I am not a supporter of his by any means. He had 3 or 4 really good moments, the best pimp slapping Wallace.

I thought Paw lost and I thought the both he and MB lost a little as they drug their fight on endlessly.

Thought Romney looked Presidential and had a good line or two, but of course played it mostly safe.

Paul was, well, Paul.


7 posted on 08/11/2011 9:22:57 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Lakeshark
I agree that Pawlenty made an excellent point on results. Good intentions are great but it's results that count.

BTW, does anyone know why she went off-stage. I thought that was disconcerting.

I liked Newt's setting things straight with the panel.

I thought Herman Cain won the debate.

JMHO

8 posted on 08/11/2011 9:23:57 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe.)
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To: tlb

I think that’s right. And Gingrich is just trying to be controversial so he can jack up his speaking fees after he gets booted.


9 posted on 08/11/2011 9:24:18 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Lakeshark
She was there, but she was not the leader as she implied.

I am with you that her leadership is thin here and there, but she was instrumental in the Obamacare protests in DC. Mark Levin retold the story a few weeks ago of how the first real protest started in DC and the she was the one contacting him and Jon Voight to attend. When the Boehner and Cantor types saw that she was going to make it a successful event, they jumped in and co opted it. She is not totally out of place in saying she leads some of these efforts.

10 posted on 08/11/2011 9:28:01 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: not2worry
I didn't here the rest of the debate, just this exchange and the Gingrich take down of Wallace (which was great).

I'd love to hear some of Cain's snippets as well. Others think he did well too from what I'm reading.

11 posted on 08/11/2011 9:32:58 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I think you're right about the protests, she did well with such a short time to organize them. I'll surely grant that to her.

Hey, I like her, don't get me wrong, I just think she'd make a poor nominee, and am not sure she could be a good executive leader.

I guess we'll see, if she wins as nominee, I'll support her.

12 posted on 08/11/2011 9:35:27 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

The thing that bugs me about her is her slow pivot on questions and wooden delivery. I am a Santorum fan because he never stumbles and gives fast and clear responses on any question he gets. I don’t know if Bachmann over preps or what, but that won’t cut it in debates with Obummer.


13 posted on 08/11/2011 9:41:38 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Nachum

I liked Bachmann she kicked Timmys azz and that Queer Wallace needs not mod any more debates!


14 posted on 08/11/2011 9:41:51 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Nachum

Pawlenty?? Tim Pawlenty??????

Yawn


15 posted on 08/11/2011 9:43:35 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Psalm 144

“I want to see her and others like her in leadership positions instead of suits like Boehner, McConnell and that ilk.”

Me too!


16 posted on 08/11/2011 9:46:28 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I thought Newt won clearly - and I am not a supporter of his by any means. He had 3 or 4 really good moments, the best pimp slapping Wallace.

Newt had a good showing and is obviously a smart guy. However, I'll never be able to erase from my mind the commercial he made, sitting on a couch with Nancy Pelosi, pushing the Global Warming agenda.

(Maybe he's not so smart, after all?)

17 posted on 08/11/2011 9:51:25 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Lazlo in PA

I think that Pawlenty is “short on character and integrity.”

He’s off my Kwanzza list.


18 posted on 08/11/2011 9:55:49 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Nachum

So much for “Minnesota Nice”.

I hate that phrase. I am offended and insulted by it. FWIW.


19 posted on 08/11/2011 10:32:57 PM PDT by DManA
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
My take:

The clear winner tonight was Newt Gingrich. I think he managed to revive a flagging campaign with his extensive command of political history and also a plan of action for now, today.

I think Herman Cain (I'll admit bias, as I am a firm supporter) came in a close second. He displayed a good mix of personality and policy points.

The Bachmann/Pawlenty food fight was distracting and irritating. Silly, over the top. Unfortunately, any good that came from their answers was lost amidst the bickering.

Santorum had some great answers; this debate did him some good.

Ron Paul, for all that folks like to tease him, is actually the best "canary in a coal mine" for whether or not something should be considered by the FedGov. We need more advocates of liberty like him.

Romney looked polished and presidential. His answers, as others have noted above, was "safe." But I think more Americans are interested in genuine over "safe" nowadays.

Just MTC.

20 posted on 08/11/2011 10:45:52 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often,)
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To: bigbob

Newt has to pull out all the conservative notions he can muster...his talk is cheap. His actions during the last few years make’s him undesirable...He let his true self come out during those years...finger in the wind, then state his policy’s...


21 posted on 08/11/2011 11:01:00 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Lazlo in PA

Santorum made some great arguments and had good response’s for his position...


22 posted on 08/11/2011 11:03:39 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Nachum
I totally agreed with Newt: Wallace played one against the other (Pawlenty vs Bachmann) as "entertainment" for the MSM, "talking points for 'snooz' programs and lib cocktail programs" who will be patting Chrissy, Wallace that is, from his liberal friends!

This should have been about trashing Obama, libs in Congress and socialist government - not one another, that has nothing at all to do with what kind of president that candidate would make - NOT about red meat gotcha points for libs to laugh their a@@ off at "conservatives."

23 posted on 08/11/2011 11:44:22 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Nachum

That spat was the real deal. When they cut to commercials there was no nicey-nice between the two. Bachmann was p.o’d and you could see it. Definitely bad blood there.


24 posted on 08/12/2011 12:14:00 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
It looked like Paw was wreaking of desperation tonight. I have a feeling that he is short on cash and supporters. He may think that this is the way to boost his profile.

There are times I suspect we don't agree on much but on Pawlenty there is no daylight. 100% with you.

25 posted on 08/12/2011 12:15:29 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pawlenty's attitude reminded me of Obama in the debate.)
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To: newzjunkey
There are times I suspect we don't agree on much...

We have to agree on probably 60% of things by default. We are both on Free Republic. That is more agreement than I have with some members of my own family.

26 posted on 08/12/2011 12:26:54 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: TheWriterTX

The Bachmann/Pawlenty food fight was distracting and irritating. Silly, over the top. Unfortunately, any good that came from their answers was lost amidst the bickering.

I though Wallace picked the MN fight for them with his question, and it was right after that Mr Newt chided him.


27 posted on 08/12/2011 3:35:47 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Yosemitest

You pretty well nailed it. I saw the same lineup as you.

The first 3 were the only ones who actually impressed me. Old Gingrich really put on a show! Michelle actually stuck to her guns and did not relent and Herman Cain told it the way it actually is.

All of the others were nothing more than retreaded politicians trying to “repackage” themselves.


28 posted on 08/12/2011 3:59:24 AM PDT by DH
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To: Psalm 144

I agree with your post#4. I didn’t see the debate but just watched the video of that segment and it’s clear that Bachmann answered forthrightly while Pawlenty obfuscated.

In regards to that segment of the debate, Bachmann was the clear winner over Pawlenty.


29 posted on 08/12/2011 6:29:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Nachum

Newt won, Crazy eyes lost big


30 posted on 08/12/2011 6:36:51 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION...SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Nachum

As usual, FOX does a lousy job with a debate. The questions were awful and designed to be combative rather than useful.

I would suggest a Conservative Talk Radio Show debate where people like Rush, Ingraham, Beck, Levin ask questions that would be helpful and get to the important issues.

FOX fails every time in election and debate coverage. I had to laugh how they blamed the candidates. I didn’t, Fox moderators made foolish asses out of themselves.


31 posted on 08/12/2011 6:43:32 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Friendofgeorge

crazy eyes?


32 posted on 08/12/2011 7:25:21 AM PDT by tioga
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