Skip to comments.Proposed rule on farms called Ďabsurdí
Posted on 08/12/2011 6:27:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
A new rule being proposed by the federal Department of Transportation would require farmers to get commercial drivers licenses.
The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, which is a part of DOT, wants to adopt standards that would reclassify all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles, officials said. Likewise, the proposal, if adopted, would require all farmers and everyone on the farm who operates any of the equipment to obtain a CDL, they added.
The proposed rule change would mean that anyone who drives a tractor or operates any piece of motorized farming equipment would be required to pass the same tests and complete the same detailed forms and logs required of semi-tractor trailer drivers.
Drivers would keep logs of information including hours worked and miles traveled. Vehicles would be required to display DOT numbers. A CDL in Virginia costs $64 for eight years, or $8 per year, not including the cost of an instructional class and the written test.
If the DOT reclassifies farm vehicles and implements as commercial vehicles, the federal government will have regulatory control over the nations farm workers, estimated at over 800,000, by requiring them to have commercial drivers licenses.
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time to bring back mules and oxen
oh wait, then there’s PETA
Another department that needs to be defunded. This is beyond stupid.
Obama can just sign an executive order. “Stroke of the pen, law of the land”.
Like most Federal bureaucrats, they need to create work for themselves.
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
This is another action that intends to extend federal control over food supplies.
This is ridiculous, most people drive tractors on private land.
Daddy had me on tractor when I was 12 or 13. Heck I used to ride to the store to to get a coke on one.
If farmers can be required to pass CDL tests then candidates for Congress should be required to pass tests on the Constitution and the voters should be required to pass test on knowledge of Government and political leaders.
All those guys who acquiesce to the notion that driving is a “privilege” since see do it on publicly financed roads. We are just about to be told by our government that driving is a privilege ON OUR OWN LAND.
The reason that kids can get driver’s licenses at 14 in Kansas is so that they can drive the wheat from the field to the elevators. And in my experience, the trucks that they use don’t have any type of tags, maybe for Missouri too.
Here's a budget cut. Also any money going to the UN, Federal Education agencies (keep it local), NPR, EPA, and any other worse than useless (destructive) departments.
Republicans should demand a moratorium on new regulations and use this outrage to support their position.
Looking at three things here:
1- absolute control
2- in the Marxist eyes, small farmers are independent minded small business people, which they hate
3- Marxists need to control the food supply . . . it gives them more power to strong-arm non-compliant citizens; they have been known to create a punishing famine before
This proposal is evil to the core!
Thanks. I guess they decided to listen to farmers. It’s just scary, though, what they try to sneak by us. I’m beginning to hate my government.
During planting and harvest seasons, farmers will work 24, maybe 36 hours without sleep. Is the DOT gonna require that we observe some sort of hours of service law in our own fields? Could they at least order God to hold off on weather changes while we rest?
Just a random crazy thought but are the trying to get CDLs in the hands of the millions of illegals aliens who farm so they can sign them up to vote?
Exactly . . . two steps forward, one step backward. The far left is a pack of liars, thieves and murderers.
Congress or the president creates a department/agency, department/agency runs amok creating massive and bizarre legislation that takes freedom and prosperity away piecemeal in accordance to special interest groups that control the process.
This whole system is corrupt and needs to be dismantled.
Absolutely. Never turn your back on a bureaucrat.
What about RIDING LAWNMOWERS?.........................DO II NEED A CDL TO CUT MY GRASS?........
Oh, wait, that would be another excuse, “Sorry, Honey, I can’t mow the yard. My CDL is expired.”.................
I asked my son who lives in Indiana about this the other day. He and his brother-in-law farm about 700 acres. He said the same thing. That driver’s licenses are under state authority and Indiana which is nothing more than 200/mi x 300/mi of farmland would never adopt such a crazy thing. The state doesn’t have autority on your land. And besides, it’s really dumb. They don’t drive this equipment on roads anymore to move it around. They run it up on trailers and zip they’re gone with it.
It’s just another tax grab and it’s all about control. They are trying to get control of what goes on on your private land.
The CDL requirement was for driving on public roads, not on your own property.
Still it’s a very dumb and typical government rule.
The good news is that they have nixed the rule now.
A farmer needs a CDL to plow his field BUT a Mexican can drive an 18 wheeler anywhere he wants with just a Mexican
Paging Claire Wolfe: Is it time YET?
big government’s intent is to do away with small farms and have only corporate farms.
Trail balloon or just stupid bureaucrats?
Agency backs away from farmers’ driver’s license
3:10 a.m. CDT, August 12, 2011
Wisconsin farmers are happy the U.S. Department of Transportation is backing away from its plan to reclassify agricultural machinery as commercial vehicles.
I thought the Federales passing laws to get rid of incandescent light bulbs was “crazy” and “absurd”
Must be that too many families are still holding on and working the old farm instead of selling out to developers and agricorps.
I think the DOT got slapped down. This time at least.
Like most Federal bureaucrats, they need to create work for themselves.
Federal bureaucracy - the OTHER Great Society.
Overpaid, lard ass, affirmative action, porn surfing, Federal employees trying desperately to justify getting paychecks. Trying to look busy and useful. Total idiots that need to be fired. 50% of the Federal workforce is unneeded and gumming up the works. For starters fire everyone at EEOC, EPA, Department of Education. These places are all Obama voters. The permanent bureaucracy of leeches.
Tenth Amendment meets the Commerce Clause.
Maybe we should insist that candidates pass the same test as legal immigrants face. If they don’t pass then they get deported. Joe Biden would fail for sure.
I have not been too fond of the CDL program. One main reason not to hold one is the federal intrusion and micromanagement. Here in Colorado, if you hold an ordinary license, violations that don’t accrue points are not posted to your driving record and out of state violations that are minor are no points, therefore don’t show. Only out of state violations that count are major ones like DUI.
For a CDL holder, the rules are different. Every infraction just about down to a parking ticket are posted to your driving record and this includes infractions in a non-commercial vehicle like your car. Also with a CDL, you have to follow more stringent rules like on vehicle equipment. For example tinted windows, I can have them on my vehicles but if I had a CDL, I have to follow the federal rule on tint which is th 70% visible light transmission rule which is basically clear glass.
One of my coworker’s husband is a truck driver and also rides motorcycles. They were in California and his bike got a parking ticket. Normally it would be something to be blown off but because he had a CDL he had to pay it or it would affect his CDL.
The visible effect of creeping communism.
Their authority derives from law that regulates transportation. The is a gross over step. Somebody needs to slap them down.
Have they done a cost/benefit analysis?
Have they done an environmental impact study?
Or did they just pull this out of the wazoo aperture?
Apparently so many farmers raised hell that they have now backed off, at least for now.
Better yet, since they are privy to classified information, make them get security clearences.
We'd get rid of most of them - and nearly all the lefties - overnight.
They’re just maneuvering to slap the highway tax onto farm diesel fuel. This is a first step where they back off the CDL requirement and “compromise” on the diesel tax.
Riding lawn mowers are next on the list.
The Feds can, and routinely do, compel states to change their laws. The cudgel they use is witholding Federal highway money.
They did it to impose the 55 mph speed limit, raise the drinking age to 21 in all states and to lower the presumptive limit for DUI to .08 percent BAC.
So long as the states are dependent on Federal money, the Feds call the tune.
It’s always about more “revenue”.