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Rationalizing Pedophilia in Islam
Jihad Watch ^ | July 29, 2011 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 08/12/2011 9:19:16 AM PDT by robowombat

Rationalizing Pedophilia in Islam

by Raymond Ibrahim Jihad Watch July 29, 2011

Earlier this month we saw—or rather, were once again reminded—that Islam permits pedophilia in the guise of "marriage": Top Saudi cleric, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for girls to marry, "even if they are in the cradle," and that the only criterion is that "they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men."

Admirable patience to childish antics While this practice speaks for itself, it is interesting to witness the great lengths some Muslims go to justify or rationalize it—or even to turn it into a source of pride.

Consider, for example, this Muslim cleric discussing Muhammad's marriage to the child Aisha when she was nine. Far from blushing for shame, the cleric actually uses this anecdote to boast of the prophet's "patience" and "magnanimity." Translation of relevant excerpt follows:

The story of the prophet's marriage to Aisha reveals to us aspects like the prophet's conduct with Aisha, and more importantly the aspect regarding the relationship between the husband and wife, to show how one should treat his wife, just as the prophet did with Aisha.

We know that Asia's mother went to take her down from the swing that she was playing on to fix her hair and prepare her for the prophet so he could enter her [have sex with her]—and she did that all on the same day.

Aisha's own account in Sahih Bukhari is telling enough: she talks about how her mother hurriedly prepared her and then "handed" her over to Muhammad, and how "nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon."

The cleric continues:

So you see, she was playing with her fellow playmates even though her day of consummation was that very same day—and all that they did was to fix her up for the prophet so he could have sex with her.

Now what do we see when the prophet married Aisha? Did he go to her and say "Okay that's it, you're married, you're now a grown up, you're supposed to be mature, you need to do this and that; you need to forget about your toys and your little friends; you are now a wife of a man, you have to see to my needs" and that's it?

No. The prophet allowed her to continue playing with her toy dolls—indeed, the prophet even sometimes gave her such things to play with. [This hadith has more details, including how Aisha's little girl friends would "hide themselves" whenever the prophet came to her until he called them out.]

It should be noted that the cleric recounted the above with much awe and amazement—as if to say, "Look how indulgent and open-minded our prophet was!"

In fact, such was the cleric's whole point: to show that Islam, according to the example of Muhammad, expects older Muslim husbands to be patient with their younger wives: "The older husband should not expect the younger wife to be at his level of maturity; rather, he should go down to her level, for he is capable, whereas she is not."

As "gentlemanly" as this ostensibly sounds, it is yet another example of how Muslim scholars deal with Muhammad's lifestyle: because they cannot condemn or ignore his practices, they inevitably go to great lengths to rationalize or justify them—to find the good in every situation their prophet was involved in, while being oblivious to all the bad.

Thus here we have a cleric straining to find a positive aspect to Muhammad's pedophilia—that he was patient and indulgent of his child-bride—while ignoring the heart of it: that the man Islam is built around desired to have sex with a child in the first place.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: fatwa; islam; korananimals; muhammad; muslim; pedophilia; rop; trop

1 posted on 08/12/2011 9:19:20 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Ping


2 posted on 08/12/2011 9:22:49 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: robowombat

Mohammad said he was a prophet so its ok.
Joseph Smith said he was a prophet so its ok.
Warren Jeffs said he was a prophet so its ok.
/s


3 posted on 08/12/2011 9:25:45 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: robowombat

?


4 posted on 08/12/2011 9:27:25 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: robowombat

No different from the Mormon Warren Jeffs.


5 posted on 08/12/2011 9:27:25 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: DannyTN

Starting a Cult and taking advantage of the underaged seem to go hand in hand don’t they?


6 posted on 08/12/2011 9:28:01 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Control issue, I guess.


7 posted on 08/12/2011 9:29:31 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: DannyTN

Mohammad said he was a prophet so its ok.
Joseph Smith said he was a prophet so its ok.
Warren Jeffs said he was a prophet so its ok.
/s
Noted, but there is still Zechariah 13:3.
And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.
Not that any "votaries of the prophet" would believe such, but they will believe eventually.
8 posted on 08/12/2011 9:32:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: robowombat

Sick.


9 posted on 08/12/2011 9:34:38 AM PDT by semaj (Anybody who claims that violence never solved anything is a liar..., just ask the government.)
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To: robowombat

Awww - MadMo was a perv! Who knew?


10 posted on 08/12/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: fishtank
The difference is Warren Jeffs represents a fringe position within a minority religion. He and others like him seek to isolate themselves from the rest of society. Islam proclaims its views directly and is what we all know it is. An expanding and aggressive world religion/culture that represents a threat to our national security. The very foundation of Islam is power orientation and the liberties the Faithful (males anyway) are given to ‘do with as they please’ with non Muslims is the greatest strength of Islam. Islam is globalized thug culture taken to the highest level. I may find Mr. Jeffs to be be repulsive but I don't fear him. Islam is something we all need to be on guard against all the time.
11 posted on 08/12/2011 10:15:29 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

“because they cannot condemn or ignore his practices, they inevitably go to great lengths to rationalize or justify them—to find the good in every situation their prophet was involved in, while being oblivious to all the bad.”

Sounds alot like the Democrat party and their “Taxes are the cure for everything” belief.


12 posted on 08/12/2011 10:30:02 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DannyTN
Jim Jones & David Koresh were self described prophets, too.
13 posted on 08/12/2011 10:34:27 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: robowombat

Muslims rationalize pedophilia because so many of them engage in it. It’s a product of the religion.


14 posted on 08/12/2011 10:34:51 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Mister Da
Earlier this month we saw—or rather, were once again reminded—that Islam permits pedophilia in the guise of "marriage": Top Saudi cleric, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for girls to marry, "even if they are in the cradle," and that the only criterion is that "they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men."

What a absolute PIG this Saudi freak is.

Oh my gosh-Arabian men have HUGE SEXUAL PROBLEMS so apparently they have to latch on to a dirtbag like mohammed to justify the abuse they are willing to lay upon (no pun intended) little girls.

Arabians must be desparate men-disgusting.

I cannot believe the filth Islam wallows within-may God bless ALL of the women and little girls who live as slaves to those dirtbags.

15 posted on 08/12/2011 10:43:41 AM PDT by Republic (uhbama sure has brought a grubby cabal of filth into his inner circle)
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To: robowombat

If you want to truly understand this issue, this websit is a must read:

http://www.dhushara.com/book/zulu/islamp/nakface/naked.htm

When I was in college, we read Nawal El Saadawi’s book “The Hidden Faces of Eve,” as part of our World Religions’ curriculum. Absolutely chilling.


16 posted on 08/12/2011 10:47:19 AM PDT by Chandalier (You say Obama, I say O-blame-o!)
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To: Chandalier

Thanks for the link. (quick glance...read later)


17 posted on 08/12/2011 11:28:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Chandalier

Chilling indeed.

Theologically though, she is very ignorant to accuse Christianity of the same kind of misogyny. It’s the same old idiotic trope of “Christian Victorian morality thinks sex is bad and evil”.

I guess she never read St. Augustine, where he said that sex would have been more pleasurable before the Fall than after it.


18 posted on 08/12/2011 12:54:04 PM PDT by Claud
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To: robowombat

Perfect cult to create psychotics.


19 posted on 08/12/2011 3:16:24 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Republic
islam is so full of justified evil - pedophilia, polygamy, rape, murder, lying, stealing, & theft - it is obvious it is the worship of satan.

To call islam a great religion is to admire the worship of satan.

I am astounded at churches that invite this evil into their church & call it an equal to Christianity. Pure Blasphemy!

There are many who say the Judeo-Christian God is the same God of Islam. Hogwash! The God who gave us the 10 Commandments & the Golden Rule cannot be the same God who told mohammed (piss be upon his head) to rape children & commit mass murder. One cannot commit jihad & "love thy neighbour as thyself" at the same time. Polar opposites.

20 posted on 08/12/2011 3:44:15 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: TASMANIANRED
I recently heard a discussion by several woman in my wife's circle about this topic. These are all ‘educated’ ‘liberated’ professionals, mostly in the ‘helping professions’. Surprisingly they considered Islam as a classic example of an incubator society for producing sexual psychopaths. The inability of the products of such a culture to ever feel comfortable with any woman who was educated and even mildly assertive leads inevitably towards a dysfunctional person both societal and sexually. One woman called Islam a ‘psychopath factory’. So it would appear the mantra ‘religion of peace’ is wearing thin for at least some liberal women.
21 posted on 08/12/2011 3:51:41 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

They are beginning to get a clue..

It isn’t just educated assertive women that is the problem.. It’s with all women.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg.


22 posted on 08/12/2011 5:40:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: robowombat

The difference between Jeffs and Mohammed is only that Jeffs did not command an army capable of taking over whole nations. Imagine what Jeffs would do if he were the law for a whole nation and there was no one strong enough to stop him. In this country Jeffs is a criminal who has to hide his crimes behind high walls and the protections given to people who profess to be religious but Mohammed was the government. He didn’t have to hide it from anyone.

This is what is so shocking for so many people to understand. Islam is just a cult that grew powerful through war and pillage.


23 posted on 08/13/2011 3:24:05 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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