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Russia and China accused of cyber-spying campaign to steal U.S. secrets
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 12, 2011 | By Ken Dilanian

Posted on 08/13/2011 5:55:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Washington — The military and intelligence services of Russia and China are conducting a sustained campaign to steal American commercial and military secrets through cyber espionage, according to the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and he warned that sophisticated computer hacking poses a major danger to U.S. interests.

"Nation states are investing huge amounts of time, personnel and money to steal our data," Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) said Friday in a speech to an association of retired U.S. intelligence officers. "We are not as prepared as we need to be."

Rogers' remarks were framed as a warning against overly steep cuts in the intelligence and defense budgets, and he cited cyber attacks as the top threat to the United States outside of Al Qaeda. He particularly blamed Russia and China.

"Clearly the intelligence agencies and the military [from both countries] are involved," he said afterward.

Rogers' views are widely shared by national security officials, but the allegations are rarely voiced in public.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cyberattack; espionage; redchina

What?  Cyber-Spying? ...

1 posted on 08/13/2011 5:55:27 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Meanwhile, we continue to fund the rise of growing rival superpower China with our muddle-headed stubborn belief in “free trade”.

While our own country’s manufacturing base, crumbles.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 5:58:23 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why spy when you can give obama $5 and he’ll tell you all you want to know?


3 posted on 08/13/2011 6:26:05 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This same complaint has been issued for more than a decade, and the same two culprits, China and Russia have been named. Apparently, our ability to counter the attacks have been as feeble as our economy, our education system, and, especially, our political will.


4 posted on 08/13/2011 6:31:42 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why don’t they just read the NYT?


5 posted on 08/13/2011 6:40:01 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Flag_This

Because, belive it or not, there are still people in our government who would hold back some info from this administration in order to protect it from being leaked.


6 posted on 08/13/2011 6:45:37 AM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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"Because, belive it or not, there are still people in our government who would hold back some info from this administration in order to protect it from being leaked."

I'm sure there are very many loyal Americans serving within our gov't, but that didn't stop china's military capabilities (specifically ICBM missile technology) from progressing by leaps and bounds during the clinton admin. I would suspect things are several orders of magnitude worse now.

7 posted on 08/13/2011 6:57:55 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No acts of war, though. Or....


8 posted on 08/13/2011 7:02:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Flag_This

You have a good point.

Also : This should come as no surprise, we are doing the same thing to them.

All Countries are doing it to each other, Its part of the game.


9 posted on 08/13/2011 7:07:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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"All Countries are doing it to each other, Its part of the game."

Espionage should always be expected, but how do you defend against treason from within at the very highest levels? That's not supposed to be part of the game.

10 posted on 08/13/2011 7:10:25 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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I suppose there have always been John Kerry’s in the Senate.

Bill Clinton appeared to be the first resident of the White House who openly shared secrets with the Chinese.Gave them missile secrets they are using now.

Obama doesn’t have to divulge secrets he and the Democrats are destroying us single handed.


11 posted on 08/13/2011 7:20:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why bother with stealing IP from American companies? Between putting the entire patent office online for everyone to see and exploit, along with companies willfuly handing their trade secrets over to them to make a quick buck exploiting third world labor, I guess they get what they have coming. Your IP laws stop at the US border, and if you think you can do anything about it, let’s see how well you fare in a chinese court.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Stealing trade secrets is a huge problem, especially in the automotive industry. The biggest perpetrators are the chinese, followed by the koreans, and then the indians. It’s so bad that the unwritten rule is that no asians are allowed in the shop, period. One of my previous employers in the machine tool industry was really burned by the koreans stealing their trade secrets. And they barely recovered from that loss.


13 posted on 08/13/2011 7:39:59 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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‘The military and intelligence services of Russia and China are conducting a sustained campaign to steal American commercial and military secrets through cyber espionage...’

Wow, there’s a shocker.


14 posted on 08/13/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The flip side of this is that its real easy to plant decoy data on systems that are under attack or vulnerable.


15 posted on 08/13/2011 8:51:26 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Flag_This
No doubt about it. The technology makes it easier and cheaper to steal routine classified information. Still need a spy network for those areas where its hard to use hacking. We are hemorrhaging from every which way. The country as a whole and as policy no longer consider security in any meaningful way. At some point this would make us open to attack.
16 posted on 08/13/2011 10:06:30 AM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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