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Texas Governor Perry says Arizona’s immigration law is not appropriate for Texas
ThaiIndianNews.com ^ | Friday, April 30, 2010 12:32:52

Posted on 08/13/2011 3:32:38 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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Perry comes out against the only effective state-level legislation that deals with Illegal Immigration
1 posted on 08/13/2011 3:32:41 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

He mentioned “comprehensive reform” ~ that means stepping back from treating foreigners as foreigners.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 3:36:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SoConPubbie

This story is from April of 2010. It’s hardly “News.”


3 posted on 08/13/2011 3:36:37 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: SoConPubbie
Don't get me wrong, I am in favor of the effort, but unfortunately the Arizona law will be rule unconstitutional by SCOTUS since it is the job of the Federal govt to enforce immigration law.
4 posted on 08/13/2011 3:38:09 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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VERY OMINOUS AND DEPRESSING


5 posted on 08/13/2011 3:38:17 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: SoConPubbie

“Texas has a long history with Mexico...”

Like...The Alamo? Who remembers it?


6 posted on 08/13/2011 3:38:23 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Perry = Amnesty


7 posted on 08/13/2011 3:40:54 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: SoConPubbie
In a 2001 Border Summit speech, Governor Perry described to fellow border governors and others in attendance the amount of poverty :

" President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity."

8 posted on 08/13/2011 3:42:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: muawiyah

Everyone knows that “comprehensive immigration reform” is just another way of saying amnesty. So Perry is like McCain. Seal the border first so we can amnesty those who are already here. Nice.

BTW, I’m not entirely opposed to a very limited amnesty for the truly hard cases, but that’s not what our political class wants. If we allow it, they’ll write an amnesty so generous virtually everyone already here will get to stay, and it looks like Perry is just another Bush in this regard.


9 posted on 08/13/2011 3:46:55 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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As far as I can tell Perry hasn’t been effective at all
when it comes to the border. Cant leave any thing at the
hunting camps in Del Rio for the past 15 years. Wildlife
cams showed us who the perps were. If you leave it unlocked
they just dirty it up. If you lock it they trash it.
Yep, Perry, Ineffective on the boarder to the point that it
looks like he’s actually for it.


10 posted on 08/13/2011 3:48:59 PM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Perry went to Mexico and bragged about Texas' Dream Act.

hen another border state (AZ) was being sued by the Obama administration Perry chose instead to oppose SB 1070.

Perry has spoken against using E-Verify to prevent illegal immigrants from getting jobs as state employees.

In a speech in Mexico in 2007, Perry said he supported completely open borders, calling for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”

It was in that same speech that he said he was against building a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border.

Perry is a fraud. And now that he has announced he will never withstand the scrutiny by his opponents.

11 posted on 08/13/2011 3:49:28 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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And this is why CFR-Rick is unsuitable as the GOP nominee.

He'd make an excellent DemocRAT nominee, however!

12 posted on 08/13/2011 3:49:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Regulation is government control of capital, and government control of capital is socialism.)
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Maybe I am wrong in my interpretation of that quote, but isn’t Perry telling the Mexicans that the only way to open the border is for them to stop being a rotten, low rent sewer? He is basically calling the Mexicans filthy cockroaches in polite terms here.


13 posted on 08/13/2011 3:50:01 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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Stimulus-Hating Gov. Rick Perry Used Stimulus to Balance Texas Budget
14 posted on 08/13/2011 3:50:20 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: SoConPubbie

Anyone leaning to Perry had better do some due diligence one this guy. His record is all over the net.

Perhaps these of the “problems” you’ll find there are why Perry dodged the debate and the Iowa straw poll: TOO MANY REAL CONSERVATIVES ASKING POINTED QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CRAPPY RECORD. I can’t speak for Perry’s heart and his relationship with the Lord. I’d simply remind you that Jimma Carter — now our second WORST PRESIDENT — also wore his alleged Christianity on his sleeve.


15 posted on 08/13/2011 3:53:35 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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Yeah a long history with Mecca as well? This guy is all over the place,What is his involvement in the Bush, Sutton smuggling organization’s??


16 posted on 08/13/2011 3:56:26 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SoConPubbie
All this proves is that he has more sense than you do.

Perry did take significant measures to secure the border without doing something that would alienate Hispanics. That is smart politics and will pave the way for an even easier win against Obama.

17 posted on 08/13/2011 3:56:40 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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but isn’t Perry telling the Mexicans that the only way to open the border is for them to stop being a rotten, low rent sewer?

Given that Mexico has a corrupt government, a corrupt military, corrupt law enforcement and corrupt citizens, isn't it a bit of a stretch to ever think they might be anything else? It is. Consider his following comments and the others make sense.

In a speech in Mexico in 2007, Perry said he supported completely open borders, calling for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”

At minimum he is delusional at worse he is a open-borders RINO who can't be trusted.

18 posted on 08/13/2011 3:56:52 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: SoConPubbie

Seems to me if he were running to be Governor of Texas now instead of President that he’d probably be addressing Arizona’s law in a more positive manner.


19 posted on 08/13/2011 3:57:08 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Perry, you just got the ZOT.

Another politician who should go to jail for aiding and abetting criminals.

20 posted on 08/13/2011 3:57:32 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: RINOs suck
Perry did take significant measures to secure the border without doing something that would alienate Hispanics.

Name it.

21 posted on 08/13/2011 3:57:35 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yes. You are correct. But there is no telling the Perry haters this. They’re determined to smear him.


22 posted on 08/13/2011 3:59:48 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Dick Bachert
Anyone leaning to Perry had better do some due diligence one this guy. His record is all over the net.

And it's all over this forum as well.

Rick Perry was Al Gore’s Texas campaign manager
Rick Perry endorsed pro-abortion candidate Rudy Giuliani for president in 2007
Rick Perry advocated for Texas’ version of the Dream Act and defends his position still
Rick Perry opposed the border fence
Rick Perry opposed SB 1070, Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration law
Rick Perry vocally opposed Obama’s stimulus plan but took billions in stimulus money to balance the Texas budget
Rick Perry said he was Fine with NY’s gay marriage law
Rick Perry was hand-picked by Karl Rove and is an establishment Republican
Rick Perry is no conservative

23 posted on 08/13/2011 4:01:38 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: SoConPubbie

24 posted on 08/13/2011 4:05:35 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: DRey; Lazlo in PA
Maybe I am wrong in my interpretation of that quote, but isn’t Perry telling the Mexicans that the only way to open the border is for them to stop being a rotten, low rent sewer? He is basically calling the Mexicans filthy cockroaches in polite terms here.

No Lazlo, the money quote from the article which tells Perry's focus on this issue is this statement by him:

"Some aspects of the law turn law enforcement officers into immigration officials by requiring them to determine immigration status during any lawful contact with a suspected alien, taking them away from their existing law enforcement duties, which are critical to keeping citizens safe."

Yes. You are correct. But there is no telling the Perry haters this. They’re determined to smear him. DRey, I know dealing with the cold harsh facts/reality is harsh when you've drunk the kookaid of Perry Propaganda, however, if you give a good ol' college try, you can do it!

Furthermore, anytime, anyone, drags out the Hate card you know they have lost the argument.

25 posted on 08/13/2011 4:12:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Lazlo in PA

Like Paul , he feels it’s up to us to remove the reasons they come.

It’s not up to us to prohibit their coming.

We cannot ever remove the reasons that make them chose to come.


26 posted on 08/13/2011 4:13:16 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: DRey; Lazlo in PA
Maybe I am wrong in my interpretation of that quote, but isn’t Perry telling the Mexicans that the only way to open the border is for them to stop being a rotten, low rent sewer? He is basically calling the Mexicans filthy cockroaches in polite terms here.

No Lazlo, the money quote from the article which tells Perry's focus on this issue is this statement by him:

"Some aspects of the law turn law enforcement officers into immigration officials by requiring them to determine immigration status during any lawful contact with a suspected alien, taking them away from their existing law enforcement duties, which are critical to keeping citizens safe."

Yes. You are correct. But there is no telling the Perry haters this. They’re determined to smear him.

DRey, I know dealing with the cold harsh facts/reality is harsh when you've drunk the kookaid of Perry Propaganda, however, if you give a good ol' college try, you can do it!

Furthermore, anytime, anyone, drags out the Hate card you know they have lost the argument.
27 posted on 08/13/2011 4:14:15 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: NoLibZone; Lazlo in PA
Like Paul , he feels it’s up to us to remove the reasons they come.

It’s not up to us to prohibit their coming.

We cannot ever remove the reasons that make them chose to come.


aw but au contraire, you most certainly can by simply making it impossible for illegals to get a job or benefits.

Take away the carrots, and they have no reason to either come or stay.
28 posted on 08/13/2011 4:15:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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Furthermore, anytime, anyone, drags out the Hate card you know they have lost the argument.

Indeed. I've been one of Perry's loudest critics, and for good reason, he's a RINO. But I don't hate the man. Seems some just can't separate the two.

29 posted on 08/13/2011 4:18:50 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: SoConPubbie

More scrub candidates. FURP.


30 posted on 08/13/2011 4:26:28 PM PDT by Crucial
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Rick Perry's record on border security.

» Starting in 2005 with Operation Linebacker, the state has sought to provide funding, manpower and equipment to local law enforcement agencies operating along the Texas-Mexico border.

» The state's latest operation, Border Star, builds on the successes of previous operations with unprecedented local, state and federal law enforcement coordination. With the assistance of the 80th and 81st Legislatures, the State of Texas has been able to appropriate more than $110 million each session to fund and amplify these efforts.

» In response to a rising tide of gang violence in Texas communities, the Governor allocated $4 million in criminal justice grants to cities across the state to increase patrols of gang hotspots. In 2009, Gov. Perry worked to secure more than $10 million in state funding for enhanced anti-gang efforts during the 2010-11 biennium.

» In September 2009, Gov. Perry announced the formation of highly-skilled Ranger Recon Teams — which include Texas Rangers, Texas National Guard Counterdrug forces, Highway Patrol and DPS Aviation assets — in order to address threats building in the unincorporated areas along the Texas-Mexico border.

» Since early 2009, Gov. Perry has repeatedly called on Washington to authorize the deployment of 1,000 Title 32 National Guard soldiers to the Texas-Mexico border to support border security operations currently underway. (see letter to President Obama, letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and request to Defense Secretary Gates)

» Gov. Perry has also recommended an expeditious deployment of unmanned aerial vehicles to provide real-time surveillance and intelligence to law enforcement on the ground.

31 posted on 08/13/2011 4:41:58 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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Excellent! I'm glad to see your boy can do more than just go to Mexico and advocate for open borders. Really, I am.

But anti-gang units is securing the border? If you say so.

Nice effort on your part also, more than you've ever bothered to put in before. Now if Perry could just reverse his liberal positions of luring ILLEGALS to America through his open border advocacy and side with other border states who are being sued by the Obama admin he might actually have some real credibility on the issue. I'm not holding my breath, though.

32 posted on 08/13/2011 4:49:42 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: SoConPubbie

Perry will be another GW Bush on the issue of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”.

I don’t want any more Republican presidents who will do the liberals work for them.


33 posted on 08/13/2011 4:52:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (One Trillion seconds = 31,709.79 YEARS / One Trillion dollars = Obama's spending for 3 months)
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To: Perdogg
Don't get me wrong, I am in favor of the effort, but unfortunately the Arizona law will be rule unconstitutional by SCOTUS since it is the job of the Federal govt to enforce immigration law.

Since bank robbery is a federal crime why do local law enforcement officers "bother" enforcing that law?

34 posted on 08/13/2011 4:53:19 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DRey

Not Perry Haters, we’ve just had to raise our standards to survive.


35 posted on 08/13/2011 5:00:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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Perry comes out against the only effective state-level legislation that deals with Illegal Immigration

Hmm, since the Arizona law has never been enforced, how can you make that statement? You are trying to make a case that because Perry doesn't think SB1070 is the right approach for Texas, that he is by definition pro-illegals. Wrong. States have different approaches to the problem. Perry has preferred to try banning sanctuary cities, tried passing a law to require e-verify, and passed a law requiring voter ID. He also has a standing request to place 1000 National Guard troops on the border to beef up enforcement.

36 posted on 08/13/2011 5:17:14 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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I'm glad to see your boy can do more than just go to Mexico and advocate for open borders.

Perry has never supported open borders and you know it.

37 posted on 08/13/2011 5:31:06 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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Perry has never supported open borders and you know it.

No, I don't know it. Maybe you don't know that he did.

In a speech in Mexico in 2007, he said supported completely open borders, calling for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”

38 posted on 08/13/2011 5:35:58 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: central_va

I pretty sure bank robbery is a state crime unless you cross state lines.


39 posted on 08/13/2011 5:42:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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Rick Bush III. Shamnesty is dead, loser.


40 posted on 08/13/2011 5:46:58 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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It’s a federal crime if the bank is FDIC insured.


41 posted on 08/13/2011 5:47:23 PM PDT by SUSSA
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Bank robbery is a federal crime, since the many bank jobs of the 1930s...if noone is hurt in the bank robbery then the feds usually let locals/state prosecute.


42 posted on 08/13/2011 5:52:28 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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This story is from April of 2010. It’s hardly “News.”

All the more telling.

43 posted on 08/13/2011 5:56:12 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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>>This story is from April of 2010. It’s hardly “News.”<<

I think this is brought out to inform the electorate on the candidates’ record.

And it’s posted under “politics/elections,” so it’s valid.


44 posted on 08/13/2011 5:59:43 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

But don’t you know, you CAN’T do that with Perry!!! It’s not fair!!! Anything he’s said or done outside the past two weeks is irrelevant!!!


45 posted on 08/13/2011 6:01:18 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: SoConPubbie

hmmmm. . .


46 posted on 08/13/2011 6:21:31 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Tammy8; SUSSA
I stand corrected.
47 posted on 08/13/2011 6:23:06 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: South40

Perry info


48 posted on 08/13/2011 6:48:59 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: South40

The real Rick Perry reveals himself to those who do their homework. His real name’s not even Rick or Richard. It’s James. And he’s not a conservative, unless you think Bill Clinton was a conservative. Open-borders progressive, and bought-off bag man for corporate welfare schemes that have looted Texas coffers of billions over the past decade.

Sleazier than McCain, IMHO. And that’s saying something, because I absolutely abhor McCain.


49 posted on 08/13/2011 7:17:05 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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Well put, CJ. I have a feeling now that Perry has announced, his ‘conservative’ credentials won’t survive the scrutiny they are sure to get. The information is out there and each and every one of his opponents is sure to make the most of it. We need to keep this poser as far from the White House as possible and let him fall to the wayside with Romney where he surely belongs.


50 posted on 08/13/2011 7:22:34 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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