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Air Conditioning, Cable TV And An Xbox: What Is Poverty In The US Today? Analysis
Eurasia Review ^ | August 13, 2011 | Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield, the Heritage Foundation

Posted on 08/13/2011 5:03:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Each year for the past two decades, the U.S. Census Bureau has reported that over 30 million Americans were living in “poverty.” In recent years, the Census has reported that one in seven Americans are poor. But what does it mean to be “poor” in America? How poor are America’s poor?

For most Americans, the word “poverty” suggests destitution: an inability to provide a family with nutritious food, clothing, and reasonable shelter. For example, the Poverty Pulse poll taken by the Catholic Campaign for Human Development asked the general public: “How would you describe being poor in the U.S.?” The overwhelming majority of responses focused on homelessness, hunger or not being able to eat properly, and not being able to meet basic needs.[1] That perception is bolstered by news stories about poverty that routinely feature homelessness and hunger.

Yet if poverty means lacking nutritious food, adequate warm housing, and clothing for a family, relatively few of the more than 30 million people identified as being “in poverty” by the Census Bureau could be characterized as poor.[2] While material hardship definitely exists in the United States, it is restricted in scope and severity. The average poor person, as defined by the government, has a living standard far higher than the public imagines.

As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago....

(Excerpt) Read more at eurasiareview.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: dependency; economy; heritagefoundation; middleclass; poverty; welfare
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1 posted on 08/13/2011 5:03:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, i disagree with the X-box.
I am a Playstation 3 guy myself.
Add a lifetime supply of Ramen noodles and a pound of pot and i am SET FOR LIFE!!!

Woohoo!!!


2 posted on 08/13/2011 5:05:57 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would describe poor as having to live in a dangerous, crime infested neighborhood. Living in fear doesn’t compensate for the xbox, free lodging, free food, and free cellphone.


3 posted on 08/13/2011 5:06:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Air Conditioning, Cable TV And An Xbox

This is a joke...Most people living in Honduras have TVs and AC.

Anyone denying our standard of living, economy and borders have been in steady decline, and intentionally undermined, are not paying attention.

4 posted on 08/13/2011 5:09:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mowowie

“I am a Playstation 3 guy myself.
Add a lifetime supply of Ramen noodles and a pound of pot and i am SET FOR LIFE!!!”

(Perhaps the above explains your “About” page)

“THIS PAGE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.... 5 years later.....This page STILL under construction. “


5 posted on 08/13/2011 5:12:42 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting perspective. When I imagine poor, I imagine living like my Ozark inlaws a generation or two ago. No road to the house, no running water and an outhouse. But if you asked them if they were poor and needed a government handout they would be insulted.

With this perspective in mind, I rethink of the necessity of having my pocket picked for the “poor”. I rent, don’t own much and am saving up to buy land to build on. Now if I had all that I had earned that was taken by the goobermint for the poor, I would have a home.

What one man recieves without working for, another man worked for but did not recieve... (stolen from FR)


6 posted on 08/13/2011 5:13:35 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BwanaNdege
“THIS PAGE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.... 5 years later.....This page STILL under construction. “

ROTFLMAO!

7 posted on 08/13/2011 5:15:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Yea, I was gonna construct that page, but then i got high....

lol

I am actually pretty clean living, well sort of....


8 posted on 08/13/2011 5:16:24 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this really a bad thing?


9 posted on 08/13/2011 5:17:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you have a working link?


10 posted on 08/13/2011 5:21:03 PM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: driftdiver

It is a horrible thing for our system is unsustainable and is going to crash. When the toys are gone, after the final collapse, the once placated lazy idiots who infest our society will riot.


11 posted on 08/13/2011 5:21:21 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Picking up EBT in an Escalade, wearing Coogi, and drinking Grey Goose.

American Poverty.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 5:22:34 PM PDT by struggle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; YellowRoseofTx; Rashputin;
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


13 posted on 08/13/2011 5:24:59 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: central_va

“The once placated lazy idiots who infest our society will riot”

What do we do with them after the fact is going to be one of the biggest problems this country ever faced.

I dunno, maybe we could offer them welfare or something like that...


14 posted on 08/13/2011 5:25:59 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie
Add a lifetime supply of Ramen noodles and a pound of pot and i am SET FOR LIFE!!!

Did I once serve you with an Air Force Bad Conduct Discharge package about three years ago? I ask because, dangit, you sound mighty familiar!

;-)

15 posted on 08/13/2011 5:32:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Record number on food stamps (45 million)
Record number of obese people

Not a coincidence


16 posted on 08/13/2011 5:37:16 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could get by without cable tv and don’t even know what X-box is but AC really is a necessity.

The house I grew up in had AC but we could have gotten by without it. The house was a frame one with high ceilings, large screened windows, and lots of huge old oak shade trees.

The last hurricane we had put the power out for 7 days and a lot of places it was 9. My generator would not operate the central AC but I went out and bought a small window unit which would run off the generator.

It cooled the bedroom enough so I could sleep other wise I may very well have died of heat stroke. I am in my 60’s and probably would have been OK when I was younger.


17 posted on 08/13/2011 5:38:41 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Grizzled Bear

Well, I did fly a F-22 once.

Then i woke up in a bush in my neighbors yard covered in vomit.
Was it me?

lol, now i really want a drink.


18 posted on 08/13/2011 5:39:04 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
actually the article missed the single most telling sign that someone is poor in this country...

they are grossly overweight.

Yep, nothing can tell you quicker if someone is poor in America quicker than looking at how fat they are, the fatter the poorer. That alone tells me everything I need to know about being poor in America.

19 posted on 08/13/2011 5:39:21 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: central_va

“It is a horrible thing for our system is unsustainable and is going to crash. When the toys are gone, after the final collapse, the once placated lazy idiots who infest our society will riot.”

The only thing unsustainable is the welfare state. Its fine for poor people to have these things, its not fine for tax dollars to be paying for them.


20 posted on 08/13/2011 5:42:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There are statistics that support that. The poorer you are, the fatter you are. Rich people in this country are thin generally. Especially women. Rich guys can carry a few extra pounds, but I can’t think of a billionaire who is morbidly obese. The only multi-millionaire I can think of who is severely obese is Michael Moore.


21 posted on 08/13/2011 5:46:08 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The US is in the “Political play for useful idiots” type of poverty.


22 posted on 08/13/2011 5:54:55 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s in poverty is the US? A lack of decorum.


23 posted on 08/13/2011 6:20:19 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: dragnet2
This is a joke...Most people living in Honduras have TVs and AC.

You ever been to Honduras?

That statement is a joke.

24 posted on 08/13/2011 6:37:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, I must be destitute then. I have A/C. THe only reason it’s running now is that there is smoke from a forest fire 100 miles away. Oterhwise, we only run it if it’s over 90F and we run at at around 78. Can’t afford it otherwise. No cable, can’t afford and don’t want. Just got a Wii but it was a gift. I make a good income and am barely making ends meet while these leaches do nothing but take and take and live a better lifestyle. I’m gettin fed up.


25 posted on 08/13/2011 7:03:18 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: mowowie

If it’s not seedy, I give you six months . . .


26 posted on 08/13/2011 7:20:26 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just saw an ad on TV promoting free cell phones with 250 free minutes per month for the poor. http://www.assurancewireless.com/Public/HowToQualify.aspx

You may qualify for Assurance Wireless if you participate in any of the following government programs:

Ohio

. Medicaid
. Food Stamps/SNAP
. General Assistance
. Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
. Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF/Ohio Works First)
. Federal Public Housing Assistance (Section 8)
. Home Energy Assistance Programs (HEAP, LIHEAP & E-HEAP)
. The National School Lunch Program’s Free Lunch Program
. Supplemental Security Income-Blind & Disabled (SSDI)
OR You may qualify based on household income. Click here for more info.


27 posted on 08/13/2011 7:55:51 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: Publius6961
This is a joke...Most people living in Honduras have TVs and AC.

That statement is a joke.

Is it?

The little country of Honduras probably have more television stations available than some rural Americans. Here is just one site with over a dozen stations, in fact according to this one site, many television stations in Honduras have news, and most have live broadcasts in addition to online web-casts.

On-line webcasts? Who would of thunk it.

Here's a link:

http://www.honduras.com/television-stations.html

28 posted on 08/13/2011 8:04:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A DYNAMITE video on this very subject here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkebmhTQN-4


29 posted on 08/13/2011 9:01:47 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I see where your coming from so I have to ask how do we rectify the situation? I've read articles where the powers that be would like to ban firearms from public housing.

If a popular criminal gets arrested the local public housing may erupt in riots complete with racist connotations galore. The local authorities feel obligated to rein in the LEOs. The local authorities do not want to be lite up as racist. Everything is back to normal in the ghetto.

30 posted on 08/13/2011 10:45:35 PM PDT by BBell
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Of course they are fat. They cannot afford a gym membership, you unfeeling cretin! ;P


31 posted on 08/14/2011 3:37:24 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

been saying since Dec of 09 that anyone who wants welfare in this country should have to spend 6 months in Afghanistan living in a mud house with no heat, no bathroom and no running water so they can truly understand what being poor really means


32 posted on 08/14/2011 3:45:03 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: cyclotic
Wow, I must be destitute then. I have A/C. THe only reason it’s running now is that there is smoke from a forest fire 100 miles away. Oterhwise, we only run it if it’s over 90F and we run at at around 78. Can’t afford it otherwise. No cable, can’t afford and don’t want. Just got a Wii but it was a gift. I make a good income and am barely making ends meet while these leaches do nothing but take and take and live a better lifestyle. I’m gettin fed up.

I am right there with ya'. I cut cable a few years ago, run the AC only when it is over 90 and then set at 75-80 depending on humidity levels. Buy food through Angel Food Ministries and supplement with stuff from the Dollar Store. I can't tell you the last time I went to a regular grocery store? Can't afford it! No game box things here...only luxury left is my internet connection. It has been a long time since I've seen the inside of a restaurant too. New clothes for summer was two pairs of shorts bought on sale from Walmart and a few tank tops.

I don't get any government handouts, I really don't want them.

I'm doing all I can to keep my head above water, but it is getting harder every month. Some basic bills are getting skipped 'cause the money just ain't there or they get underpaid...gas, electric.

My "nice SUV" in the driveway is my work. It is needed for the operation of my business and yeah...it feels funny to pick-up food from the church in it, but it is what it is right now. My money needs to go to it and it needs to be dependable.

I'm worrying about winter. Last winter we set the thermostat at 60F wore sweaters and covered up with throws to stay comfortable. I don't know how we'll do it this winter. I've been tucking away 10% off every job, but it ain't going to be enough I don't think.

My biggest concerns in the next six months....taxes. Taxes on my property and income. Business compared to LY is up over 75%, so we're making headway...we've gone from living off the LOC to looking to start paying on the LOC. So we're headed in the right direction, but in another few months and other concerns start to creep in. Like 0bamacare concerns and taxes and just general uncertainty affecting me or my clients.

33 posted on 08/14/2011 4:20:09 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting that so few households - not just poor - have a separate freezer. That is one of the best ways to save $ (buying things on sale and stocking up), but along with cooking from scratch, not “worth” it to most.


34 posted on 08/14/2011 4:31:08 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: boop
The only multi-millionaire I can think of who is severely obese is Michael Moore.

Oprah.

35 posted on 08/14/2011 4:31:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; boop
The only multi-millionaire I can think of who is severely obese is Michael Moore.

Oprah.

AlGore.

36 posted on 08/14/2011 4:33:42 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In this nation being poor is being obese. In a declining number of third world nations, being poor is being underweight and starving. With the standard of what equals poverty going up everywhere, we can only expect a tough time dealing with what would have been trivial in the past.


37 posted on 08/14/2011 10:40:31 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: airborne
Good ones, but Oprah and Gore aren't MOUNDS of fat, like Michael Moore.

What an upside down world. We have so much bounty that our poorest citizens can have access to enough calories that make them 400lbs. Even Henry the VIIIth wasn't that big, and he was known for his feasting.

38 posted on 08/14/2011 11:36:10 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: nascarnation

Isn’t it simply amazing how people can stay so ridiculously fat and be on food stamps. Just amazing!


39 posted on 08/14/2011 3:42:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: cyclotic

I know what you mean, I’m getting pretty frustrated lately too. We have started to sacrifice a lot to cut costs all while my family is paying for somebody else’s free ride. The family that lives on the other side of the street are “poor” and have had their utilities paid for them through some program. Yet they leave the porch light on all night, charge the battery for their kids motorized car, have just about every light on in the house all the time and I’m sure they run their A/C 24/7.

What a wonderful world!


40 posted on 08/14/2011 3:51:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

No incentive to conserve when it’s all free.


41 posted on 08/14/2011 4:17:55 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: KarlInOhio

I thought you were joking about the “free” cell phones until I heard an ad today in Seattle advertising the same program. Just as you said, it states that if you are a welfare recipient, you are “entitled” to a taxpayer funded phone. So we not only get the privilege of paying for the ads, we get the privilege of paying for the “free” cell phones. Ah, yes, how “poor” are American poor people.


42 posted on 08/14/2011 9:31:31 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

http://freedomkeys.com/gap.htm

43 posted on 08/14/2011 9:41:37 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Helping the poor through the government is like feeding the sparrows through cows"-Dr. Walter Wms.)
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