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Palin on Bachmann win: 'Not much of a surprise'
msnbc ^ | Saturday August 13, 2011 | NBC's Alex Moe

Posted on 08/13/2011 9:31:21 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

EUREKA, Ill. -- Sarah Palin told NBC News that Rep. Michele Bachmann winning the straw poll will not affect her decision to run or not, calling her win "not much of a surprise."

"It is not much of a surprise," Palin told NBC News. "I think, at this point, it is more of a test of organization. ... The prediction was that it would either be Ron Paul or Michele Bachmann, because they spent a lot of time and energy to make sure they had delegates there who would cast those votes

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bachmann4romney; iowastrawpoll; michelebachmann; notrunning; palin; palin2012; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 08/13/2011 9:31:25 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Doh! That’s funny.


2 posted on 08/13/2011 9:34:09 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bigtigermike

And money. Cain spent more time there than both Paul and Bachmann, but they spent millions, he spent $100k. They bought 6000 tickets, he did not buy votes. They had radio and TV ads, he did not.

His is all grassroots.


3 posted on 08/13/2011 9:35:05 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: Bigtigermike

Also poor Mittens..he came in what, 4th place..I was expecting him to win since everyone considers him the “Frontrunner” even though he is a liberal RINO..but it was still surprising to see him lose


4 posted on 08/13/2011 9:37:27 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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5 posted on 08/13/2011 9:37:43 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Romney wasn’t there and didn’t even have a tent space/booth there. So why would you expect him to win?


6 posted on 08/13/2011 9:39:25 PM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: deport

Oh well I did not know about the tent thing, but I thought that since everyone considered him a frontrunner that he would win the straw poll, but I Guess after he did so poorly at the debate people did not vote for him.


7 posted on 08/13/2011 9:46:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
... but I thought that since everyone considered him a frontrunner that he would win the straw poll...

He did win in 07... That seems ominous in and of itself. Good riddance!

8 posted on 08/13/2011 9:49:36 PM PDT by Mensius
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To: justsaynomore

Even if Cain doesn’t make the top four...his ‘political investment’ has put him on the scene so Americans fully know about him...as well as politicians....good move on his part no matter the outcome. We won’t be seeing the end of Cain no matter how this plays out.


9 posted on 08/13/2011 9:50:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: Bigtigermike

Who are the people that cast ballots in the Iowa straw poll? What are their “demographics” or other indicators of probable general viewpoint or political bent?


10 posted on 08/13/2011 9:51:51 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Mensius

HAHA yeah, let’s hope he drops out of the race, I dont see it happening though, his ego is too big, but if he loses NH or SC he is finished.


11 posted on 08/13/2011 9:52:42 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Romney wasn’t even at the event in Ames today. Only six of the announced candidates were there, had booths and made a speech to the attendees today. Yes he did participate in the Fox debate a couple days ago.

Take care and have a good one.


12 posted on 08/13/2011 9:52:48 PM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: Bigtigermike
All this rigamarole and determinations courtesy of officialdom yet Sarah Palin is still the undisputed front runner despite not yet announcing. Get behind her, wayfarers.

13 posted on 08/13/2011 9:54:47 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: deport

Oh I see, thanks for letting me know. I am still getting familiar with how the straw polling works. Oh so the poll had nothing to do with the debate that Fox had, this is a totally separate thing? I see, thanks for the info, you take care too!!


14 posted on 08/13/2011 9:55:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Bigtigermike

the liberal scumbags appear to be quite unnerved over the implications of her victory. I love it. I would love to see President Bachmann. Democrats would be hanging themselves in despair especially after she forces them to attend heterosexuality training camps. LOL


15 posted on 08/13/2011 9:59:30 PM PDT by RC one (whatever.)
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To: Elsiejay

my understanding is middle-age evangelicals for the most part were voting....but the straw poll is really meaningless because first of all its all about bribing people to vote with food, entertainment etc....(lets see who they vote for without the food and prizes in the caucus) and second of all, these voters are not 100% committed to one candidate, they will jump ship possibly as things start to shift later on and other candidates drop out.


16 posted on 08/13/2011 9:59:38 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

which of the candidates were
giving away the tickets you
need to have to vote?


17 posted on 08/13/2011 9:59:53 PM PDT by 50gunsalute
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To: 50gunsalute

I think it was Bachmann and Paul and you can see the results - these things are bribes and highest dollar payouts for food...entertainment...etc


18 posted on 08/13/2011 10:01:35 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Every single thing you list in your post just makes me wonder why Iowa has such a say in presidential politics. Or any kind of politics for that matter... everyone is quick to quip that we should sell California off to pay down our debts to China but I could think of a few other places to start.


19 posted on 08/13/2011 10:04:30 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Pay-for-play, GOP-style. Interesting that, according to a report I saw, the first call to MB congratulating her was from Mitt Romney. Wonder what he said? :)


20 posted on 08/13/2011 10:08:15 PM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bigtigermike

whoever has the best giveaway deal would get my straw!!

If I had been there, I guess that would have been Bachman.


21 posted on 08/13/2011 10:09:54 PM PDT by 50gunsalute
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To: justsaynomore
They bought 6000 tickets,

They each bought 6000?
22 posted on 08/13/2011 10:13:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’ve always been a cynic. As I find out how things really work, I am becoming a jaded cynic.

The candidates “entertain”, buy tickets for their voters and very often bring in their own supporters.

So I guess the only real value is name recognition and the results of this straw poll are really meaningless.


23 posted on 08/13/2011 10:16:40 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

I agree and I think it’s embarrassing. It’s propaganda in a way - so they can say they came out 1st, 2nd or 3rd - whatever - when it means jacksh*! Those who aren’t paying attention will, by design, get sucked into the results.


24 posted on 08/13/2011 10:23:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: presently no screen name

Palin still hasn’t commented on McCain’s attack on the Tea Party, but she comments on a worthless Iowa straw poll?

What’s going on with her?


25 posted on 08/13/2011 10:28:42 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: Bigtigermike
my understanding is middle-age evangelicals for the most part were voting....but the straw poll is really meaningless because first of all its all about bribing people to vote with food, entertainment etc...

To show how worthless straw polls are, Pat Robertson ran away with the Iowa straw poll one year.

26 posted on 08/13/2011 10:31:17 PM PDT by Polybius
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27 posted on 08/13/2011 10:31:57 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Bigtigermike
"It is not much of a surprise," Palin told NBC News. "I think, at this point, it is more of a test of organization. ... The prediction was that it would either be Ron Paul or Michele Bachmann, because they spent a lot of time and energy to make sure they had delegates there who would cast those votes

It would appear that Governor Palin has a firm grasp of what is going on and what is important.

It would also appear, whereas President Reagan talked over the heads of the Press to get his message to the American people, that Governor Palin is not only talking over the heads of the Press, but more importantly, over the current pre-defined political process of the day to the American people.

One smart lady that Governor Palin, and soon to be President Palin.
28 posted on 08/13/2011 10:35:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Al B.

Say what you will about Mitt Romney and how truly meaningless the IA Straw Poll is other than as a winnowing tool, but calling MB to congratulate her is a lot classier than telling some MSM reporter that MB’s win was no big surprise (which it wasn’t). Sorry, but that’s just tacky.


29 posted on 08/13/2011 10:41:02 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Sarah Barracuda

lol I know. Was WONDERFUL. Now if he’d just come in 4th when we get to he Caucus.


30 posted on 08/13/2011 10:46:29 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: berdie

I agree that they’re meaningless, when you have Ron Paul coming in a close second, and Bachmann’s antagonist , Tim Pawlenty, spending lots of energy directly trying to discredit her as if THEY were the presumptive “front-runners” and one of them had to go.But hey what do I know-—it must have worked, look who came in third-—Pawlenty.
He came across very poorly, and looked like a bully besides.
Let’s hope Huntsman disappears immediately-—if there was ANYONE who didn’t belong on that stage, it was him. And wasn’t he the only one who made a point of cheering the Boehner plan?


31 posted on 08/13/2011 10:46:34 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (No need for a tagline, but here it is anyway..........)
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To: Carling
What’s going on with her?

What's with you? You want to put strings on her and control what she says, what she doesn't? And Sarah did speak out on Hannity about the insults to the TeaParty.

Do you want/have strings on MB? She's a founder of the House Tea Party Caucus. Why hasn't she spoken out? Sarah's a private citizen, MB is being paid. Maybe you want to pull her string and make her apologize for her manager's trashing of a Patriot conservative - SARAH. What’s going on with MB? Where is her loyalty to conservatives? Yet she considers herself a voice of conservatives. "Do as I say but not as I do" is in play.
32 posted on 08/13/2011 10:53:56 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: EDINVA; Al B.

Why is the truth suddenly tacky?

And a conman calling to congratulate somehow classy?


33 posted on 08/13/2011 10:57:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: SoConPubbie
over the current pre-defined political process of the day to the American people.

Well, I'm thankful. Not everyone knows the process - this one, now, I know. So, indeed, her winning is no surprise. Read post #3.
34 posted on 08/13/2011 11:02:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: EDINVA
Say what you will about Mitt Romney and how truly meaningless the IA Straw Poll is other than as a winnowing tool, but calling MB to congratulate her is a lot classier than telling some MSM reporter that MB’s win was no big surprise (which it wasn’t). Sorry, but that’s just tacky.

So a serial liar, complete finger-in-the-wind, fake conservative calling somebody can be taken on face value?

And how do you know Governor Palin didn't call Bachmann as well?

You can always tell when someone suffers from an acute case of PDS; they always run to the most negative possible spin on any of Palin's action because they have an agenda, one they won't be honest about, but an agenda nonetheless.
35 posted on 08/13/2011 11:07:22 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: EDINVA
Say what you will about Mitt Romney and how truly meaningless the IA Straw Poll is other than as a winnowing tool, but calling MB to congratulate her is a lot classier than telling some MSM reporter that MB’s win was no big surprise (which it wasn’t). Sorry, but that’s just tacky.

Call me cynical (because I am), but Mitt Romney calling to Michelle Bachmann to congratulate her, is almost condescending, its also presumptuous but its clear he is acting very much like a front runner.........Its also slick, in that it gives the image that he wants, where he, the front runner, called the presumed upstart, and pretends to take the high road, kudos on strategy, but I don't like it.

As for Palin, I have no idea what the context was off this comment, and what she else she said, while many are defending her, or attacking her, to me, there is to little information for me to do either, the media has a tendency to chop her comments in a way to portray her in the worst light possible, and also is attempting to make this into some kind of "cat fight". I won't attack her or defend her comments here, but I will give her the benefit of the doubt after having seen so many of her comments taken out of context to manipulate public opinion regarding her.

36 posted on 08/13/2011 11:22:07 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Bigtigermike

Michelle is amazing, impressing more and more with every appearance! Sarah sounds a little bitter after her movie flopped.


37 posted on 08/14/2011 12:17:31 AM PDT by 83Vet4Life
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To: presently no screen name

So, SP/MB won’t happen?


38 posted on 08/14/2011 12:50:46 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Bigtigermike

kitty kitty


39 posted on 08/14/2011 12:51:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: EDINVA
calling MB to congratulate her is a lot classier than telling some MSM reporter that MB’s win was no big surprise (which it wasn’t). Sorry, but that’s just tacky.
So should everyone who isn't a candidate call MB to congratulate her, or just the ones you despise?...Did Perry call?
40 posted on 08/14/2011 1:00:04 AM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: Polybius

before you use words like worthless...with all due respect

they indicate the nominee from 63-75% of the time last 8 election cycles for the GOP-Dems respectively

they are not worthless

but they are not ironclad...I wonder how they compare to Dixville Notch as an indicator of each party’s nominee?

(looking it up.....)

much much higher rate of predicting eventual nominee

still hardly Carnack...but can weed the outliers down

I’m just happy a social conservative won and has been leading polls ...it’s only been 27 years


41 posted on 08/14/2011 1:00:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: EDINVA

She was asked a question about it. She didn’t volunteer it out of the blue and unless you heard her you can’t really say whether it was tacky or not. You’d first have to know the actual question (and the tone of Palin’s answer). For instance, “Were you surprised at Michelle Bachmann’s win?” and “No I wasn’t surprised” is pretty innocuous.

Were she to not answer the question someone would be making hay out of that as well. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Cindie


42 posted on 08/14/2011 1:59:36 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I just watched video of the debate ...With the exception of Ron Paul and Herman Cain , the rest are phoney baloneys ! Not that I support either of the aforementioned , its just that the others look like they are Hollywood scripted . The American public has become Americanidolized . Maybe it takes an ex-pat like myself to see that .


43 posted on 08/14/2011 3:46:53 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: deport
Romney wasn’t there and didn’t even have a tent space/booth there. So why would you expect him to win?

I would expect him to have a chance at winning because he and his views are already well known, but that's with the assumption the voters there agreed with his views. They didn't.

44 posted on 08/14/2011 4:57:06 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: justsaynomore

Cain did buy tickets because my sister got one from him.


45 posted on 08/14/2011 5:00:49 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Bigtigermike
You're wrong about the first part, right about the second part. I do not believe people make their selections based on a candidates offer of tickets and food and bus rides. They first make their selections and then accept the offers from the candidates.

Some don't even care who gives them a free ticket. There are other groups making free tickets available. Strong America Now called my home offering me a free ticket.

Of course, there will be shifts, especially after some begin to drop out.

46 posted on 08/14/2011 5:07:59 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Sarah Barracuda

He may have been as low as seventh. Romney can’t feel good about the results of the Straw Poll.


47 posted on 08/14/2011 5:09:49 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: deport

Neither was Perry and He got 700 write in Votes!


48 posted on 08/14/2011 5:14:23 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: 50gunsalute
Free tickets were available all over the place, it wasn't limited to candidates, groups also offered them.

I believe there is very little reflection on a candidates' votes and what they offered to voters. When everyone is offering them, then there is little loyalty to a candidate because they offered a free ticket.

Folks make their selections and then get the tickets.

49 posted on 08/14/2011 5:15:52 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: EDINVA; Virginia Ridgerunner
....calling MB to congratulate her is a lot classier than telling some MSM reporter that MB’s win was no big surprise (which it wasn’t). Sorry, but that’s just tacky.

Who said Mitt calling MB to congratulate her wasn't classy? I didn't.

Who immediately seized upon the oppportunity to offer an opinion about Gov. Palin's "tackiness". You did.

Lighten up...LOL.

50 posted on 08/14/2011 5:30:42 AM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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