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Texas Governor Signs Bill for Tougher Hate Crime Penalties
LA Times ^ | May 12, 2001

Posted on 08/14/2011 9:11:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

After refusing for months to say where he stood, Republican Gov. Rick Perry signed a Texas hate crime bill Friday that strengthens the penalties for offenses against minorities, gays and others.

The James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Act was named for the East Texas black man who was dragged to his death from a pickup truck in 1998 by three white men, including two avowed white supremacists.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 1984; oldnews; perry; thoughtcrimes
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1 posted on 08/14/2011 9:11:46 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Guess who I won’t be voting for.......


2 posted on 08/14/2011 9:13:51 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Guessing you won’t be invited to the Perry Christmas Party.


3 posted on 08/14/2011 9:15:13 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"... strengthens the penalties for offenses against minorities, gays and others."

This is crap! A hate crime should not be defined as offenses against just minorities but against any citizen.

4 posted on 08/14/2011 9:17:42 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
mmmm,mmmm,mmmm .......... the real Perry's revealing himself, isn't he? His image is crumbling fast, hopefully!
5 posted on 08/14/2011 9:17:50 AM PDT by Old Badger (I still like Palin because she will tell like it is and she'll take no prisoners!)
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To: mrreaganaut

ping


6 posted on 08/14/2011 9:18:30 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: SoConPubbie

I can guess you don’t like Perry, but why post a 10 year old story?


7 posted on 08/14/2011 9:19:48 AM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well politics is ugly sometimes. I’m glad he’s in. I’d be happy with Palin, Perry or Bachmann. Reading comments at huffpo in Perry. They’re scared. Call me nuts but I like the idea of another Texan being presdient (other than Ron Paul).


8 posted on 08/14/2011 9:20:53 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: SoConPubbie

Ah yes, yet another constitutionally illiterate RINO. Sarah will beat him like a rented mule. Is there a fringe minority group he hasn’t yet pandered??? Gag me with a spoon.


9 posted on 08/14/2011 9:23:39 AM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: toddausauras

“Call me nuts but I like the idea of another Texan being presdient...”

NUTS! I am afraid that Perry will be another boot wearin’ drawlin’ faux conservative.


10 posted on 08/14/2011 9:24:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: SoConPubbie

As an SP supporter this is disappointing.
Murder is murder. Murdering a homo because he is a homo is no worse than murdering an old woman because she was a safe target. I don’t know where SP stands on the hate crimes but I hope she can see through this, OTOH, economy, energy are #1 issues


11 posted on 08/14/2011 9:24:03 AM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: ken in texas; SoConPubbie
I can guess you don’t like Perry, but why post a 10 year old story?

I noticed he's been posting other old stories about Perry as well. I guess he thought we wouldn't notice?

If you don't like him, don't vote for him. But don't go around posting old stories like it's todays news.

12 posted on 08/14/2011 9:25:36 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SoConPubbie

It is so astounding how many on FR are determined to bring down Gov. Perry, a fabulous candidate who can defeat Obama next year. In fact, they are doing nothing but HELPING Obama get re-elected.

I see nothing wrong with that bill.......no one should be discriminated against. If you are a Christian, would you prefer to be discriminated against because of your faith? It isn’t a one-sided street, folks.

What many of us love about Gov. Perry so much is that he can bring so many people from all parts of the GOP together and also win over the independents, in addition to sharing conservative values!

RICK PERRY, 2012!


13 posted on 08/14/2011 9:26:02 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 ("FREEDOM, PROSPERITY, RESPONSIBILITY: RICK PERRY 2012!")
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To: SoConPubbie

More 10+ year old spam. From the LATimes , no less.

Why don’t you post more news worthy, like this?

http://www.gonzalescannon.com/node/4356


14 posted on 08/14/2011 9:26:02 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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15 posted on 08/14/2011 9:27:09 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: SoConPubbie

You have talent for digging up info about Perry that is a decade old. Can you also post Obama’s transcripts or articles or anything about his academic prowess? I think we have his voting record in the Senate—”present”.


16 posted on 08/14/2011 9:27:35 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: SoConPubbie
Gee, what a timely article. Published on:

MAY 12, 2001

No agenda here.

17 posted on 08/14/2011 9:30:58 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: ken in texas
I can guess you don’t like Perry, but why post a 10 year old story?

Did his position on this change?

I could find no evidence of that, if I had, I would not have posted this article.

If his position has not changed, if he did not admit this was a terrible mistake, then it is fair game and should give us insight into how this conservative poseur thinks. It should also give you pause if you are or thinking about supporting Perry.
18 posted on 08/14/2011 9:31:08 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: unixfox; SoConPubbie; toddausauras; ken in texas
It's more some sort of vendetta with these guy. Long nights looking through every Liberal website trying to dig up dirt on Conservative candidates.

Maybe they are applying for a position at DU or Daily Kos?

19 posted on 08/14/2011 9:32:28 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek
More 10+ year old spam. From the LATimes , no less. Did his position on this change?

I could find no evidence of that, if I had, I would not have posted this article.

If his position has not changed, if he did not admit this was a terrible mistake, then it is fair game and should give us insight into how this conservative poseur thinks. It should also give you pause if you are or thinking about supporting Perry.

Who cares if it is from the LA Times, it is not denigrating Rick Perry, just reporting the facts.

Quit being an apologist for Rick Perry and stick to being a conservative.
20 posted on 08/14/2011 9:33:13 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Outlaw Woman
Gee, what a timely article. Published on:

MAY 12, 2001

No agenda here.


Did his position on this change?

I could find no evidence of that, if I had, I would not have posted this article.

If his position has not changed, if he did not admit this was a terrible mistake, then it is fair game and should give us insight into how this conservative poseur thinks. It should also give you pause if you are or thinking about supporting Perry.

Quit being an apologist for Rick Perry and stick to being a conservative.
21 posted on 08/14/2011 9:34:38 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: wolfcreek; unixfox; SoConPubbie; toddausauras; ken in texas
It's more some sort of vendetta with these guy. Long nights looking through every Liberal website trying to dig up dirt on Conservative candidates.

Maybe they are applying for a position at DU or Daily Kos?


Another apologist for Rick Perry pretending to be a conservative.

Try dealing with the fact that Perry never retracted this.

This is his history.

I know this must be disturbing for you, but he is not the conservative he is pretending to be.
22 posted on 08/14/2011 9:36:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; ken in texas; wolfcreek; TheOldLady; famousdayandyear; Outlaw Woman; unixfox; ...

So given this history of supporting/signing Hate Crimes Legislation, his history of extreme Open-Borders support, his history of throwing millions of millions towards a healthcare proposal that primarily benefited Illegals, his history of spending millions upon millions upon every feel-good educational proposal, what we have here is anothter “Compassionate” Conservative, a la, GWB.


23 posted on 08/14/2011 9:41:06 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m not sure how you bringing up these “facts” is going to help get a conservative elected and get rid of Obama.

Face it. Perry has a significant chance of being the nominee. Assuming for a moment he is the nominee, what are YOU going to do?

Support him?, Vote for Him?

Or Not vote, Or vote for Obama?

If you say you would support Perry as the nominee, then I hope you realize you are shooting yourself in the foot with this stuff.


24 posted on 08/14/2011 9:42:40 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: SoConPubbie

Hate Crimes.. yet another BS law brought about by special interest groups i.e. queers etc.


25 posted on 08/14/2011 9:43:17 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: famousdayandyear
You have talent for digging up info about Perry that is a decade old. Can you also post Obama’s transcripts or articles or anything about his academic prowess? I think we have his voting record in the Senate—”present”.

As I posted to the other Perry Apologists on this thread.

Did his position on this change?

I could find no evidence of that, if I had, I would not have posted this article.

If his position has not changed, if he did not admit this was a terrible mistake, then it is fair game and should give us insight into how this conservative poseur thinks. It should also give you pause if you are or thinking about supporting Perry.

Lastly, what does Obama's transcripts have to do about anything?

False analogy that has nothing to do with this current debate.
26 posted on 08/14/2011 9:43:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Well that Mexican,Muslim loving Fool is done!!


27 posted on 08/14/2011 9:45:08 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Does the bill also have provisions for distringuishing hate crimes from love crimes or friendship crimes, and how to determine the appropriate penalties for each crime type ?


28 posted on 08/14/2011 9:47:03 AM PDT by emax
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To: precisionshootist
I’m not sure how you bringing up these “facts” is going to help get a conservative elected and get rid of Obama.

Face it. Perry has a significant chance of being the nominee. Assuming for a moment he is the nominee, what are YOU going to do?

Support him?, Vote for Him?


First, sorry, but I don't share your opinion concerning Rick "Open-Borders" Perry gaining the nomination.

Once the information of his checkered conservative past is fully vetted during this campaign, the base will turn away from him. He won't make it to the finish line.

Secondly, let's say by some twist of fate he makes it to the finish line; I'll have to make that decision then based on what else comes out about him. His Open Borders positions and support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, however, makes it unlikely, because like GWB and McCain, he will be trying to push this over the finish line and this will destroy our country.
29 posted on 08/14/2011 9:47:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Hah. Have you heard the news out of Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc?

The funny thing about this legislation is that it might as well be called the White People's Protection Act. At least there'll be something to use against these Facebook racist mob attacks that are all the rage.

We have a Lynching law in South Carolina that basically makes it a crime for a mob of people to attack someone who's outnumbered. No ropes necessary. You can probably guess the demographics of those serving time for lynching in South Carolina. Sad, bitter...but true.

30 posted on 08/14/2011 9:47:44 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Outlaw Woman

Exactly. Some people truly are ignorant...


31 posted on 08/14/2011 9:50:46 AM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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Ever since three white men beat the 49-year-old Byrd, chained him by the ankles to the bumper of a Ford pickup, then pulled him down Huff Creek Road in the early hours of June 7, 1998, Jasper has been almost synonymous with the horrors of racism.

Byrd's remains were found scattered in 75 places along the twisting path that cuts through a pine forest. His head and right arm were discovered about a mile from his mangled torso.


32 posted on 08/14/2011 9:52:52 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: ken in texas

“I can guess you don’t like Perry, but why post a 10 year old story?”

What has Perry done to remove the law, if we all agree it stinks? In other words, as long as the law is on the books, it is fair game.


33 posted on 08/14/2011 9:55:03 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: unixfox
If you don't like him, don't vote for him. But don't go around posting old stories like it's todays news.

Few things are more relevant concerning a presidential candidate than the bills he signed into law as a sitting governor, whether this year or ten years ago.

You can't get much more lame than pretending such things should be ignored by the voters looking for a candidate to support.

34 posted on 08/14/2011 9:57:08 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SoConPubbie

My post is relevant. The energy required to post two items (4years and 10years old) speak volumes of the intent here—is it that you want Obama for another term? If not, who do you support from the conservative side? Could it be, I don’t know, Palin?
Just what we need: internecine quarreling.


35 posted on 08/14/2011 9:57:08 AM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: unixfox

“If you don’t like him, don’t vote for him. But don’t go around posting old stories like it’s todays news. “

Actually, I agree with the above (even if I can’t stand Perry). When old (but valid) stories like these are posted, people should put a comment down to that effect (i.e., or put the year in parentheses).


36 posted on 08/14/2011 9:57:29 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Cheetahcat
Well that Mexican,Muslim loving Fool is done!!

You mean obama?

37 posted on 08/14/2011 9:57:41 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Who cares if it is from the LA Times, it is not denigrating Rick Perry, just reporting the facts.”

Actually, if it was the LA Times, they’re praising Perry. But you’re right on the mark, except that you mention the year up front.


38 posted on 08/14/2011 9:59:39 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: toddausauras

Don’t worry... “nuts” is the new normal.

Before this next year is over, I’ll probably be back to burying dead bodies under my house.


39 posted on 08/14/2011 10:00:43 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: SoConPubbie

Just lost my vote


40 posted on 08/14/2011 10:01:12 AM PDT by Zebra
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Well that Mexican,Muslim loving Fool is done!!

You mean obama?”

No Perry, he was laying brick at a Mosque! We all know Zippy Obamas background.


41 posted on 08/14/2011 10:02:27 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Heck, W had to take on the Byrd case in the presidential debates with Algore.

GWB was pressed to support ‘hate crimes’ legislation but noted existing criminal law was good enough.

Two of the guys that killed Byrd got the death penalty and the other got life. There was no need for a ‘hate crimes law.’

Perry is more liberal than GW Bush on this one....


42 posted on 08/14/2011 10:02:38 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: precisionshootist

“I’m not sure how you bringing up these “facts” is going to help get a conservative elected and get rid of Obama.”

I’ll help you here. These facts will come out in the next 15 months, like it or not - because the Democrats are EXPERTS at separating Republican candidates from their base - they don’t need our help. It is MUCH BETTER to have them out in the open now. If he’s properly vetted and still considered the best, so be it, and I, for one, will vote for him. If he’s not, then all hell is going to break loose once he’s nominated and the Dems start their attack campaigns.

“Face it. Perry has a significant chance of being the nominee.”

Agree...but we better know who the heck we’re nominating.

“Assuming for a moment he is the nominee, what are YOU going to do? Support him?, Vote for Him?

In my case, I’ll do just what I did in November, 2008, which is hold my nose, vote for him, and HOPE that his actions (for once) really do match his words. In other words, I’d rather vote for someone that I can trust from the start.

“If you say you would support Perry as the nominee, then I hope you realize you are shooting yourself in the foot with this stuff.”

No, we’re not. As I’ve said countless times this weekend, the Dems are more than capable of finding out every time Perry didn’t tie his shoelaces correctly, much less finding out about major policy weaknesses.


43 posted on 08/14/2011 10:06:40 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: SoConPubbie; lentulusgracchus

Nasty, nasty to not only approve of the concept of “hate crimes” but to increase the penalties.

Perry sucks.


44 posted on 08/14/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Cheetahcat

I Googled “Perry, Muslim, ancestors”

Nothing yet but I’m only on page 32


45 posted on 08/14/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SoConPubbie
I don't recall anything said by him about the subject in the intervening 10 years.

Although I'm personally opposed to so-called "Hate Crime" legislation, signing it was probably his best alternative considering the outcry over Byrd's murder and how Texas politics work.

Politics is an ugly business, none of those involved are perfect, and you play the hand you're dealt.

46 posted on 08/14/2011 10:09:00 AM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: ken in texas
"I can guess you don’t like Perry, but why post a 10 year old story"

So people won't enable him to create such stories in the future.


47 posted on 08/14/2011 10:10:15 AM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: tsowellfan

“I Googled “Perry, Muslim, ancestors”
Nothing yet but I’m only on page 32”

LOL. Keep looking. I’m thinking Southeast Algeria, although the records might be a bit parched by now.


48 posted on 08/14/2011 10:10:58 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: ken in texas
Although I'm personally opposed to so-called "Hate Crime" legislation, signing it was probably his best alternative considering the outcry over Byrd's murder and how Texas politics work.

Politics is an ugly business, none of those involved are perfect, and you play the hand you're dealt.


You're making excuses for him Ken.

If he was a man of principle, conservative principle, he would not have signed it.

GWB, even with his faults, took the right position on this while Governor of Texas. It's in the article.
49 posted on 08/14/2011 10:14:00 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Wow! Found some stuff on him on a website called Democracy Now! It’s right under the picture of Bush making a monkey face.


50 posted on 08/14/2011 10:14:04 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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