Posted on 08/14/2011 12:46:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
I wonder if Zeidman is aware that Romney's religion considers him and all Jews to be gentiles?
Is this true? Michele Bachmann worked in an Israeli kibbutz for a summer.
I am not interpreting other’s faith—you are!
You seem to KNOW what is in other people’s hearts—and if they are “good” Christians.
My only point is -—No! You, even if you think you are god—can never know, for sure, what is in other people’s heart. Only God can (and should) judge.
I am just judging “ACTIONS” and you seem to think that actions are not connected to belief. You seem to be very Clintonian—notice, I say “seem”—in that, you think if people say the “right” words, and their actions don’t support those words-—then you should believe all that they say, anyway. Hogwash!
I judge only actions....I don’t pretend I am a god—I just read St. Thomas Aquinas and Cicero and Locke and Reid and the Federalist Papers, so I have an understanding of the intent of the Founding Fathers when they designed the government of the US, so I know what beliefs should underlie the philosophy of people who run for office. They are not running for office in China. There is a difference in philosophy—and that philosophy is VITAL.
Then, I see what politicians actually do. I’ve learned many years ago, you can’t believe anything politicians say—only a few Statesmen, who are very rare. It is good to be skeptical when it comes to politics. I am.
Religion....well, that is different-—I believe in God—not in people or idols, who can never be perfect. I put more faith in some people, than in others—but I judge only by their actions—never by just words. Even if I think someone is very devout and holy—I could be wrong, because I can not see into their heart. I always know that, but there is a place for the “educated” guess—that is the best we can do—and that comes from watching actions.
Perry is a politician and, as such, he is probably better than a lot of them and far better than the one in office at the moment—no doubt.
But, he has his flaws as does everyone. I just argue on the points of the Constitution—and Christianity—I don’t know what truly is in Perry’s heart—power tends to corrupt though and politicians say what is expedient to which ever group they are addressing.
We are supposed to be a nation ruled by Law (not man) and when you don’t apply laws equally (illegals) you are getting people killed and favoring some over others....it leads to chaos in the end—or tyranny, and it rewards evil behavior (illegality) which will always create more of it. BTW, Jesus would never condone breaking the laws of Caesar.
Jesus did believe in Just Law—there is nothing unjust about our immigration laws. Mexico is the corrupt hellhole. The Pope even condemned the government of Mexico and the evil of their system which separated families. Our government should have put an end to this illegal activity years ago so Mexico would maybe have been cleaned up in the 60’s, instead of completely being taken over by cartels. You don’t encourage evil acts, ever!!!
That is just common sense.
Some of the most pagan people I know advocate the name of Jesus—and they have lesbian pastors. Just saying words do not make one a Christian—it is the actions consistent with the Bible. His advocation of NY laws acknowledging immorality concerns me deeply—it is anathema to Christianity and also to the philosophy of the Founders which the Constitution is based on—”Right Reason according to Nature”. That statement of his was very troubling to me. I think Just Law is crucial to our nation—and homosexual marriage makes a farce of that concept and destroys logic and reason and Natural Law Theory (teleological design by God). No Christian can ever be for homosexual marriage, anymore than they could be for child rape.
I just don’t trust Perry because of what he said, that is inconsistent with Christianity and with the philosophy of Rule of Law. I can not see what is in his heart, and can not say if he truly believes in Christianity. True, sometimes he says the right words—but words never mean anything....it is actions. Just remember Clinton carrying that huge bible smiling on Sunday, as he just had finished with Monica. Politicians are what they are (Machiavelli), and some are so much better than others.
The fact that Perry supported Giuliani (pro abortion and pro gay agenda) in 2008 makes everything he says suspect to me.
I have no clue what reality you live in. Texas has a very healthy economy and is being run quite well.
Good luck finding the Jesus Christ of politics. Until then, mere mortals need to be elected to office, and we need to work with the people actually running for the nomination.
The only potential candidate who has not point blank denied interest is Palin, and we can find just as many bones to pick about her record. I would consider her candidacy too, but she is not perfect, either.
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Interesting, because the liberals are all attacking Perry because of his moves to secure the border, end sanctuary cities, etc.
Don’t confuse people with facts!
What is his stance on immigration?
The only thing I’ve seen is his ending sanctuary cities, creating special state task forces to do the federal government’s job, and getting a lot of flack from liberals for being “anti-immigrant.”
The only place I’ve seen Perry called “open borders” is F.R.
Agreed. A quick Google search of “Rick Perry anti-immigrant” pulls up many hits.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s anti-Hispanic Agenda Goes Down
Rick Perry Resurrects Measure To Curb Illegal Immigration In Texas
Texas Gov. Rick Perry Pushes Harshest Anti-Immigration Bill Yet .
I didn't say anything of the sort. Jesus's concerns were primarily of the next world not this one. He was above the petty debates of the world and certainly had no time for those who exalt worldly governments.
It would not be the first time in history that the successors of civilization had slipped in ignorance and descended into a mire of chaos.
Absolutely-—it is the story of civilizations. But it usually defines the end of one.
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