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Police water cannon and plastic bullets? After 50 years of the most lavish welfare state on earth?
The Daily Mail ^ | 14th August 2011 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 08/14/2011 9:36:44 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek

What an utter admission of failure, that after 50 years of the most lavish welfare state in the solar system, you cannot govern your country without soaking the citizenry in cold water and bombarding them with missiles from a safe distance. Except, of course, that it is because of the welfare system that this is so.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: socialism; uk
Interesting look by Peter Hitchens at the London riots - the logical result of decades of welfare-state socialism, uncontrolled immigration and multiculturalism run amok. This is the promised land for US liberals.
1 posted on 08/14/2011 9:36:49 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Richard the Lion Hearted Weeps.


2 posted on 08/14/2011 9:41:14 PM PDT by Beckett08 ("My Jihad means 'My Struggle' So does "Mein Kampf.")
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

A south American country whose name escapes me, had a novel idea with the water cannons. They sprayed rioters with the water...and a “harmless” blue dye. It would give the skin a blue “smurf like” tinge and would wear off after a few days. Of course it would be enough suspicion to ID and question someone.

And the ones that were not in class for a few days...they got IDed also.

They should have used the idea as a promo for the new “Smurf” movie!

DK


3 posted on 08/14/2011 9:49:34 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Brilliant piece, and thanks for posting it. This is really, really good.

As the polluted flood (it is not a tide; it will not go back down again) of spite, greed and violence washes on to their very doorsteps, well-off and influential Left-wingers at last meet the filthy thing they have created, and which they ignored when it did not affect them personally.

And it has now, hasn't it? Croydon is not exactly Watts.

All this piffle enshrines the official (and hopelessly wrong) view that crime is caused by circumstances and background, not by unleashed human evil.

I don't think the enlightened multiculti who have smothered our parent society believe in evil, actually. A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. A liberal who remains a liberal after he has been mugged is a suicidal fool, and these suicidal fools are intent on taking their country with them.

4 posted on 08/14/2011 9:54:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Socialism, being iniquity in state form, must be by definition not of God.


5 posted on 08/14/2011 9:58:13 PM PDT by lurk
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
And that is why we have many more nasty surprises waiting for us, here in The Country Formerly Known as Great Britain.

You got that right. I also enjoyed the writer slamming that effeminate phoney Conservative Cameron. He is a first class loser. Lady Thatcher would not have put up with any of this. The true mettle of Cameron is being shown to all with the handling of this rioting.


6 posted on 08/14/2011 10:17:40 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

7 posted on 08/14/2011 10:24:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
During the Watts riots of 1965 many stores were looted and burned. The stores owned by Koreans were not looted nor were they burned. The reason is quite simple. Those that rioted and looted noticed that when you tried to loot a store owned by Koreans, you body leaked blood and on occasion you head exploded from a well aimed rifle or shotgun.

When the bad guys come to your house or store, you better go medieval on them, or they will go medieval on you.

8 posted on 08/14/2011 10:26:27 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Take our Prime Minister, who is once again defrauding far too many people. He uses his expensive voice, his expensive clothes, his well-learned tone of public-school command, to give the impression of being an effective and decisive person. But it is all false. He has no real idea of what to do. He thinks the actual solutions to the problem are ‘fascist’. Deep down, he still wants to ‘understand’ the hoodies.

Hmmmm...now, who else does that sound like? His name escapes me.....

9 posted on 08/14/2011 10:33:59 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Beckett08
Beckett08: “Richard the Lion Hearted Weeps.”

You can say that again. To think Great Britain once ruled the civilized world and was both feared and respected. Now it's a laughing stock.

Mrs. Thatcher was probably the last prime minister who understood that liberalism isn't just ineffective. It's evil. It dehumanizes people. It's immoral. The rioters are neither poor nor downtrodden. They are immoral.

Western Civilization has been coasting for decades on its Judeo-Christian past. Today's generations no longer know how we got here or why, and I think the cultural train has finally jumped the tracks.

Totalitarian government is the end result if people cannot govern their own evil impulses. That's where Britain (and the US) is ultimately headed, because liberty is doomed if people don't return to Judeo-Christian concepts of individual morality and responsibility.

We need God.

10 posted on 08/14/2011 10:37:38 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Only Margaret Thatcher has balls. Everyone else in the UK are nutless.

And given Maggie’s condition, and what she already did for Britain so long ago that they squandered, it isn’t fair for the brits to expect her to fix things again.


11 posted on 08/14/2011 10:38:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lurk

lurk: “Socialism, being iniquity in state form, must be by definition not of God.”

Socialism is state sponsored immorality.

What’s funny is the way liberals try to deal with the ravening evil they’ve created. It’s like trying to reason with a feral tiger.

Every time the left fails it simply doubles down and says it didn’t go far enough to create a fair society. Frankly, I don’t think they’ll ever wake up. What we need to do is reach those in the middle who still have some semblance of sanity left.


12 posted on 08/14/2011 10:41:32 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: CitizenUSA

“It’s like trying to reason with a feral tiger.”

Try reasoning with a feral water moccasin...much more dangerous.

That said, socialism is an iniquity from hell. It is evil. It deprives the sheeple of their human rights because they are too stupid to recognize/understand what is going on in the ‘management’ of their lives.

And when socialist governments (Cameron’s is socialist) crack down, they do so with a vengencence.

GB has noe ‘conservative’ gov’t options...just varied forms of socialism...same here...not much difference between the socialism of the Democrats and the Republicans. Both generally are evil.


13 posted on 08/14/2011 10:52:32 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: CitizenUSA

“Mrs. Thatcher was probably the last prime minister who understood that liberalism isn’t just ineffective. It’s evil.”

And she was liberal by the standards we consider to be conservative.

You are right...’We need God’.


14 posted on 08/14/2011 11:06:04 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
This is the promised land for US liberals

Yep, these European socialist welfare-states are the perfect models for what the Democrats want for America.

15 posted on 08/14/2011 11:15:31 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

bookmark


16 posted on 08/15/2011 12:22:23 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I am in the middle of Thatcher’s autobiography—what an Iron Lady! She was incredibly smart—had a chemistry degree from Oxford and then got a law degree—She had read and understood Hayek before she was 22 years old and had read Karl Popper’s philosophical book on the Poverty of Historicism. She understood how evil socialism was—the Road to Serfdom at 22.

They need a thousand Thatcher’s to save England. Sad—the home of Milton, Wilberforce, Newton, Shakespeare—so many great minds.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 12:39:53 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: hosepipe

Very relevant quotes, thanks.


18 posted on 08/15/2011 1:10:05 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Amen.


19 posted on 08/15/2011 1:11:28 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Water cannon and plastic bullets - of course.

After generations of wasting all of England's money on welfare, there is no adequate riot control equipment. After all, water is cheaper that shot, as in “grape shot” and plastic bullets are ‘approved’ by socialists but lead bullets are not.

Pity Poor Albion, his perfidy has ruined him.

20 posted on 08/15/2011 4:23:16 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Have they even used the water cannons and plastic bullets yet? I haven’t heard the weekend news from over there.


21 posted on 08/15/2011 5:10:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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No, there’s been no need to as there has been no trouble since Wednesday


22 posted on 08/15/2011 5:24:36 AM PDT by Mitch86
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No, there’s been no need to as there has been no trouble since Wednesday

Ah, I guess everything worth stealing is gone.

23 posted on 08/15/2011 5:39:55 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
After the article:

Sorry we are unable to accept comments for legal reasons

I wonder what those reasons are?

24 posted on 08/15/2011 5:55:12 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

That is often the case on Daily Mail articles, for example one of the tabloid fluff pieces about a soap star in her bikini (which I was looking at purely for educational purposes...) has the same proviso underneath.


25 posted on 08/15/2011 6:19:20 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: Mitch86
which I was looking at purely for educational purposes

Ah, I see.

And bless you for your tireless devotion to self-improvement. :-)

26 posted on 08/15/2011 6:45:57 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: cpdiii

I’ll second that tactic. Unfortunately the gun grabbers got there before the rioters.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 11:41:23 PM PDT by tdscpa
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