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Warren Buffet Times Op-ed: Stop Coddling the Super-Rich (AKA, Will somebody please raise my taxes)
New York Slimes ^ | 08/15/2011 | Warren Buffet

Posted on 08/15/2011 8:28:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

OUR leaders have asked for “shared sacrifice.” But when they did the asking, they spared me. I checked with my mega-rich friends to learn what pain they were expecting. They, too, were left untouched.

While the poor and middle class fight for us in Afghanistan, and while most Americans struggle to make ends meet, we mega-rich continue to get our extraordinary tax breaks. Some of us are investment managers who earn billions from our daily labors but are allowed to classify our income as To understand why, you need to examine the sources of government revenue.

Last year about 80 percent of these revenues came from personal income taxes and payroll taxes. The mega-rich pay income taxes at a rate of 15 percent on most of their earnings but pay practically nothing in payroll taxes. It’s a different story for the middle class: typically, they fall into the 15 percent and 25 percent income tax brackets, and then are hit with heavy payroll taxes to boot.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: buffet; hypocrite; rich; tax; taxes; warrenbuffet; warrenbuffett
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1 posted on 08/15/2011 8:28:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Warren Buffet knows . . . ya gotta be wealthy to be a socialist.

It's easy for a multi-billionaire.

What a ruling class elitist Democrat hack he is. The perfect socialist fat-cat. He knows that no matter what, he will be unaffected.
2 posted on 08/15/2011 8:31:44 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama would spend all your super rich friends money in a few days and then be back for more


3 posted on 08/15/2011 8:31:56 AM PDT by molson209
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To: SeekAndFind

1) How many of birkshire hathaway’s companies seek tax havens (Don’t get me wrong — I am all for businesses maximizing tax savings)

2) How much of his own money does ole Warren shelter?

3) Why doesn’t Warren donate to the treasury? Has he? Maybe I missed it.

What a hypocrite!


4 posted on 08/15/2011 8:32:14 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: SeekAndFind

He should send everything he has into the IRS. That way I’ll be able to get a Sosha Security check a few years from now.


5 posted on 08/15/2011 8:32:22 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You wana pay more pay more, one one is stopping you.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 8:34:23 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Tulane

He only pays himself 100k so his wealth grows untaxed.

I wish these rich folks would get their assets taxed when they start talking about income taxes, and everything they have is sheltered


7 posted on 08/15/2011 8:38:34 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Mr Buffet,

File a 1040-EZ next year and prove you mean it. Or, better yet, just send a check today in the amount you propose your taxes be raised.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 8:38:46 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: svcw

Mr. Buffett, feel free to write a check as large as you’d like to the US Department of Treasury when the mood so strikes you. I guarantee that they’ll cash it. Until you do so sir, shut it.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 8:40:13 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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There’s nothing stopping this man from paying more in taxes. Simply add a few zeroes to your check to the IRS. You nor the government should even have the power to tax my income to begin with, let alone arbitrarily decide how much I or anyone should pay. The 16th Amendment is an abomination and is the singular item creating all of our problems. It should be repealed yesterday.


10 posted on 08/15/2011 8:41:28 AM PDT by jsdjason
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To: SeekAndFind
From http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance:

You can write a check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it's a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public. Mail your check to:

Attn Dept G
Bureau of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

Just mail in a check, Warren.

There are a couple ways to fix this "problem". First, throw out the entire tax code and implement a national retail sales tax like the FairTax. It won't matter whether you earn your money via capital gains, dividends or wages because you'll pay the same rate when you spend it.

Alternatively, charge the same rate for capital gains as for wage income, but include an inflation adjuster so if you buy a stock for $1000 and sell it for $2000 years later but the Treasury and Federal Reserve have destroyed the value of the dollar so $1000 then is equal to $1400 now, you will only pay income tax on $2000 minus $1400, or $600. Your cost basis will be the purchase price times the CPI when you sold it divided by the CPI when you bought it, or just a little bit more calculation than now.

Also, Warren, don't tell me any of your "quadruple A" bond BS. You own insurance companies whose assets are significantly held in treasury bonds. A downgrade from AAA to AA+ hits you hard in the wallet. You aren't a neutral observer, but rather someone neck deep in this swamp.

11 posted on 08/15/2011 8:41:42 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nothing is stopping him from sending the IRS an extra check.

He admits he pays a 17.4% rate when his actual rate is 35% based on his income but he feels he should pay more?

Hey Buffett, stop taking deductions if it's that big of a concern for you.

12 posted on 08/15/2011 8:43:59 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing prevents Buffet from disavowing all deductions and using the current income tax rates or even the “Clinton era tax rates” on his capital gains. And if the old man would just stop giving away his money to charity, his estate could pay more death taxes to his favorite charity, the government. Lead by example instead of running your mouth. Also Buffet should teach the government that “millionaires and billionaires” don’t start at 200,000.


13 posted on 08/15/2011 8:44:37 AM PDT by kushnejz
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To: SeekAndFind

 

Try this one on for size and read past the first couple sentences and paragraphs:

It’s like a bunch of rich guys running around acting altruistic and claiming the death tax should be reinstated or at higher levels.

What they don’t tell you is their holdings include companies who profit from estate planning, income shelter, etc.

If the government has no death tax it is a direct competition to the insurance companies, law firms, Wall Street, etc.

Without the death tax there is no need for their services and such stringent estate planning.

Here is an excellent video explaining Warren Buffet and Berkshire-Hathaway. Get a cup of coffee and watch it. You will see the scheme explained and then you will get it.

Also note what companies he has acquired, how and why:

Why This Superrich Guy Likes High Taxes
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8035391/

Warren Buffett Benefited From Death Tax
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15951

Wanna know why Buffet pushed for TARP bailout?
Suffice it to say Berkshire owned stock in some largest receipents of TARP valued at $13 billion around that time.

Here is the funny part:
Buffett increased his bank holdings in September, while he was arguing in the media that Congress should approve the bailout to prevent the collapse of the global financial system.

TARP was approved in October of that year, just one month later!

It’s good to be king!

He actually said “if he didn’t think the government was going to act(in a way that would positive and accretive to hihis holding) he wouldn’t have been doing anything that week”. (paraphrased)

For more read here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/04/05/65496/buffett-champion-of-bailout-is.html

BofA in April 2009 was around $4 per share and is now trading at $13.80 per share as of 3/02/2001

Wells Fargo in April of 2009 was around $11 per share and is now trading at around $31 per share.

How about US Bancorp trading at around $14 per share in April 2009 and now trading at about $26 per share.

Goldman Sachs Group trading at some $51 dollars per share has now zoomed to above $160 per share.

How about those poor folks at American Express trading at just above $10 per share in 2009 and now they are trading at about $45 per share?

Bottom line: We, the schmuck taxpayer, paid to enhance the holdings of companies like Berkshire and investors in Berkshire.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 8:45:24 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

Warren Buffet shelters his wealth in insurance companies. He knows that Congress isn’t going to change that.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 8:47:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

here you go , old man:

How do you make a contribution to reduce the debt?
There are two ways for you to make a contribution to reduce the debt:

You can make a contribution online either by credit card, checking or savings account at Pay.gov
You can write a check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it’s a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public. Mail your check to:

Attn Dept G
Bureau of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/resources/faq/faq_publicdebt.htm#DebtFinance


16 posted on 08/15/2011 8:49:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The mega-rich pay income taxes at a rate of 15 percent on most of their earnings...

Unless of course they earn their money from one of many available TAX FREE vehicles available in the current income tax code. Earnings from those are taxed at zero percent!

17 posted on 08/15/2011 8:49:01 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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Warren, you own about 32% of Bershire Hattaway, right. So your share pays 35% of Bershire Hattaway income so your misleading the public.

You don't pay a dime in dividends so you push for higher taxes on dividends which makes you richer.

How many companies have you stolen because the founders family owed the IRS an inheritance taxes.

18 posted on 08/15/2011 8:50:09 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Sudetenland

That’s right.

A Warren Buffet no longer worries about money. He’s in the position where he can gain more power and influence by making the statements he makes here.

Like you suggest—the socialist first gains wealth, then he pushes socialism.

Socialism is slavery disguised as “sharing.”


19 posted on 08/15/2011 8:51:14 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The guy is a liar. First, I highly doubt he pays at the rate he claims. Remember, the “rich” category according to the democrats starts at $200k for singles and $250k for married filers, and I will guarantee you those folks pay a lot more than a 15% effective rate. They also pay the payroll tax (or self-employment tax if they operate out of a partnership or are self-employed). Let's see his tax return (release it) and see what he really pays. He talks of mega rich, but he wants tax hikes for the $200k/$250k group. The guy is a liar.
20 posted on 08/15/2011 8:51:47 AM PDT by HwyChile
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