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Rick Perry Stands By Texas DREAM Act
U.S. News and World Report ^ | July 25, 2011 | Mallie Jane Kim

Posted on 08/15/2011 10:51:41 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

In sharp contrast to the national Republican Party line, Texas Gov. Rick Perry still supports his state's version of the so-called DREAM Act, which permits foreign-born children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition. "To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about," the potential dark horse GOP candidate told the New Hampshire Union Leader in his first New Hampshire interview of the 2012 campaign cycle.

Perry has not yet announced whether he will run for president, but he polls well. Real Clear Politics's average of polls, for example, puts him in fourth place behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Rep. Michele Bachmann, and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who is also undeclared. Perry opposes passing such legislation on the federal level, but his stance on immigration could tarnish his star among conservatives, who have fought efforts in other states and the U.S. Congress to pass similar legislation. Critics see such laws as a giveaway to people who have broken the law and unfair to American citizens who have to pay out-of-state tuition to attend universities across state lines.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; borders; dreamact; election; immigration; perry; rickperry; rinoperry; texas
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There will no doubt be be those on this thread who say "But the Texas DREAM Act is different!"

Rick Perry's own words:

”We don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate”

He wants taxpayers to finance the education of the children of illegals, let them fill our classrooms and use up our resources, and even go so far as to let them go to our universities so they can take away the jobs of Americans...

All because “it’s not fair” that they should have to suffer. Sounds like quite an incentive for more illegals to pour over the borders.

1 posted on 08/15/2011 10:51:46 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Rick Perry:

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated.

The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions.

We must say to everyTexas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers.

That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 10:53:05 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

It is my understanding any kid who attends Texas pblic schools for 3 years gets in-state tuition if admitted to a state university?

If based on this issue you don’t want to vote for someone who thinks kids of undocumented parents should be treated the same way, in hopes the kids will become educated higher earning future taxpayers, then don’t vote for Governor Perry.

You will have other choices


3 posted on 08/15/2011 10:56:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

“To punish these young Texans for their parents’ actions...”

No, Rick. The point is that we should NOT REWARD children for their parents’ unlawful acts. Otherwise, we incent the parents to commit those unlawful acts.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:17 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: silverleaf

No, let me go on record as saying I believe U.S. citizenship means something, and that breaking our laws should not be rewarded.

Especially at the expense of American citizens.

Sorry you disagree.


5 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:53 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

What candidate has other views on this subject?


6 posted on 08/15/2011 11:01:14 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Has any GOP candidate taken a stand in support of enforcing our borders, or supporting Arizona's law?

They all seem as squishy as Bush and McCain...

Why do all the politicians care more about jobs for Mexican citizens than American citizens?

7 posted on 08/15/2011 11:02:13 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
"To punish these young Texans (sic) for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about,"

Yes, we should punish American children instead. Right, Rick?
8 posted on 08/15/2011 11:03:11 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I’ll let you do your own homework. I’m just presenting the facts. ;-)


9 posted on 08/15/2011 11:04:11 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Dam. We already canceled the primaries and selected him as our candidate.
10 posted on 08/15/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Really, I’m still trying to figure out who the perfect candidate would be.


11 posted on 08/15/2011 11:07:59 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Agreed. We may have to hold our noses, bend over and take it to get rid of Obama.

But let’s not be so naive as to believe Rick Perry is what he claims to be.
:-/


12 posted on 08/15/2011 11:07:59 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Me too. Please see post #12


13 posted on 08/15/2011 11:08:34 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Sarah Palin is a presidential contender who has been firm and consistent in her support for Governor Brewer’s fight against illegal immigration in Arizona.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 11:09:41 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

He’s dreaming if he thinks I’ll support another Jorge Bush or Juan McCain.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 11:10:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Cowboy Bob

That is my question also.

What candidate is willing...

to build the fence?
to put armed soldiers on the fence?
to shoot the trespassers, the pregnant women, the kids?

Anyone?


16 posted on 08/15/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
They are here

Assuming they don't commit violent criminal acts, no politician is going to deport them

Not Sarah Palin, Not Ron Paul, NO ONE

So Governor Perry had to make a choice

As for the expense of the American citizens...Texans are going to pay for the choices of these parents, one way or another

We are going to be on the hook for welfare to low paid or jobless youth, or on the hook for state-rate college tuition for those who qualify to go to college (presumably the brightest and most motivated)

decisions decisions, which works better for Texas and our country in the long run?

I have to agree with the governor, to include these kids with every other 3 yr student at a Texas school, including plenty of kids whose American parents are bums, druggies and winos

17 posted on 08/15/2011 11:16:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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18 posted on 08/15/2011 11:16:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: silverleaf

I promise. I won’t vote for him.


19 posted on 08/15/2011 11:18:12 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

It looks exactly like Rick Perry is part of the problem, not the solution!


20 posted on 08/15/2011 11:20:16 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
A look at liberal Maryland in the past several months will show exactly how the people feel about the Dream Act. Our governor signed a similar bill into law this spring and the people took to the petition streets to garner signatures to put this on the ballot. I believe around 52,000 confirmed signatures of registered voters were required and there were double that number of confirmed voter's signatures!

This is an issue that crosses party lines and is a BIG DEAL.

21 posted on 08/15/2011 11:21:18 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

This could be Babs speaking. Looking down your nose and TELLING THE AMERICANS WHAT THEY WILL HAVE TO ACCEPT! SCREW YOU BUDDY!
We as Americans were never asked if they wanted 1-10th of Mexico’s population! RULING-CLASS SCUM AND THEIR OPERATIVES!
Perry works for them!


22 posted on 08/15/2011 11:21:42 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: swain_forkbeard

AMEN


23 posted on 08/15/2011 11:22:13 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

This is a smart move for Perry and only confirms my support for him. The Hispanic vote will be crucial next year. Obama is losing the Hispanics and Perry is smart to try and win their support. Now if he picks Rubio as his VP, then there’s no stopping the GOP in Nov. ‘12.


24 posted on 08/15/2011 11:27:56 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


25 posted on 08/15/2011 11:29:13 AM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: Signalman

All the DREAM Act will do is to encourage even more illegals to cross the border.


26 posted on 08/15/2011 11:30:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

>We may have to hold our noses....<

Not if yiou jump off Rick Perry’s little red pickup truck right now and get behind a true American Conservative, Michelle Bachmann.

I will never hold my nose to vote again. it is time for the people of this country to come together to do the right thing for our own survival! NO MORE RINOs!


27 posted on 08/15/2011 11:30:32 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Bush II - warmed over lightly.

When Perry crashes and burns, expect the GOP establishment to pick Chris Christie and try and run him. But he is a much bigger target for conservative critics.


28 posted on 08/15/2011 11:32:06 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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To: dfwgator

That’s why we need the federal government to secure the border.


29 posted on 08/15/2011 11:32:33 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: silverleaf

Exactly


30 posted on 08/15/2011 11:34:49 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: magna carta

There it is. Ive been screaming it from day one, RICK PERRY IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE AND IS NO GOOD!! If he won the election he would help pass amnesty for millions of illegals and hand this country right back to the dems, probably for good with all those new dem voters. People think it got bad quick with the dems in control, wait until they have control with NO chance of being voted out.


31 posted on 08/15/2011 11:35:50 AM PDT by allsouthern
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To: silverleaf

Very reasonable response - and Perry’s was a reasonable policy as well. Too bad both of you are catching so much flak.


32 posted on 08/15/2011 11:37:04 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Signalman
That’s why we need the federal government to secure the border.

Like that's ever going to happen.

33 posted on 08/15/2011 11:38:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Signalman
>>This is a smart move for Perry and only confirms my support for him. The Hispanic vote will be crucial next year. Obama is losing the Hispanics and Perry is smart to try and win their support. <<

So you're willing to surrender conservative principles, U.S. sovereignty and ignore the rule of law to pander for the Hispanic vote. All on the taxpayer dime. Duly noted. Can't enforce existing laws now, can we? /sarc

Spoken like a true RINO. You sound like Señor Jorge Bush.


34 posted on 08/15/2011 11:40:36 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: ZULU
When Perry crashes and burns, expect the GOP establishment to pick Chris Christie and try and run him. But he is a much bigger target for conservative critics.

A real heavyweight, too.

35 posted on 08/15/2011 11:41:18 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: silverleaf
What part of "illegal" do you not understand?


36 posted on 08/15/2011 11:42:40 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Rick Perry is a nanny state statist, unafraid to spend taxpayer money in support of illegals in return for political favor.


37 posted on 08/15/2011 11:46:42 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
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To: madprof98

Please see post #36


38 posted on 08/15/2011 11:48:22 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: silverleaf

I see no need for deportations. No one will support it because it seems cruel.

What I would do is enforce electronic document checks for new hires, and fine employers who hire illegals 50,000 dollars for each violation.

Employers would stop hiring illegals, and the illegals would self-deport. End of problem....


39 posted on 08/15/2011 11:48:26 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: dfwgator

You really think Mexicans are going to hire coyotes to smuggle them across the desert so their kids can attend public school for 3 years to get a tuition break?

I used to be opposed to the Maryland DREAM act but on reading it, it makes sense to get behind this and use it to assimilate the next generation, rather than than perpetuate how the parents are living and whine about “It’s not FAAIIRRR ‘cause the parents did something illegal to get here....”

Especially when the kids of every American citizen druggie and junkie and 5th generation welfare mama in the state of Maryland are eligible for cheap community college, if they had the ambition and smarts to work for it

Sometimes life isn’t fair. So how do we make the best of it..

Conservatives ought to be giving these kids scholarship money for writing essays about America’s conservative heritage and the opportunities it creates
for them and their children


40 posted on 08/15/2011 11:49:24 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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To: Sporke

Exactly. But we have people who would rather eliminate our borders (aka U.S. Sovereignty) than enforce the law, all for short-term political gain.

What’s alarming is that some FReepers are on board with the sell-out, cheering it on, and claiming it is somehow “honorable” and “a smart move.” Un. Frickin. Believable.

A nation without borders is not a nation.


41 posted on 08/15/2011 11:52:53 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Sporke

a worker registration system could also address this problem of chaos and lack of any rational and coherent respect for law and order

I think this is part of the solution a conservative administration will try to bring about

Having a better economy and a renewed pride in American exceptionalism can only help. and Screw La Raza!


42 posted on 08/15/2011 11:53:38 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
“we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.”

I don't care where they come from, just how. Legally or illegally, there is a difference.

And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers.

Not at my expense. Get your corporate buddys to pay the bill, not me.

I'm sure the Perrybots will be along to tell us why this is ok......

43 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:30 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

This is the two-sidedness of Rick Perry I just don't understand. TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already. Perry includes himself when using the vernacular Tea Party. Yet Perry supports the national adoption of illegal immigrants and their offspring. And he advocates the Trans-Texas Super Corridor so that goods manufactured in Mexico, from companies avoiding taxes by moving manufacturing facilities to Mexico, have a quick and easy route back into the nation. And he supports programs like Gardasil for everyone. Just whose TAX dollars does he plan on using for these programs? We are Taxed Enough Already. Period. I don't want a dime of my money collected for any of these purposes. Punish the criminals, keep jobs in the States, and teach children to save it for marriage. You might not succeed, but failing to try is a travesty, and using my money to fund the alternative is criminal. For a guy who claims to be Tea Party, I'm just not squinting the right way to see it.


44 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Signalman

True but we don’t need states bending over backwards to find even more ways to spend money on illegals.


45 posted on 08/15/2011 11:56:46 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: waterhill; ixtl

(((ping)))


46 posted on 08/15/2011 11:57:56 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Envisioning

>>I’m sure the Perrybots will be along to tell us why this is ok...... <<

Oh, they’re already here. No matter how much the issue goes against U.S. sovereignty, the constitution or the rule of law, some knucklehead will come out of the woodwork to defend it. It never fails.


47 posted on 08/15/2011 11:58:29 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

It’s not what he says, it what he does.


48 posted on 08/15/2011 12:00:45 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Envisioning

>>Not at my expense. Get your corporate buddys to pay the bill, not me.<<

YES! My question to all the Perrybots defending this: doesn’t this ENCOURAGE more illegal immigration? Why wouldn’t this give Mexicans even more incentive to come here in bigger droves than they already are?

Grow a brain, people!


49 posted on 08/15/2011 12:01:01 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
What’s alarming is that some FReepers are on board with the sell-out, cheering it on, and claiming it is somehow “honorable” and “a smart move.” Un. Frickin. Believable.

Unfortunately it is belivable. Had you been around here in 2006 thru 2008 you would have read the same comments from numerous FReepers defending Bush and McCain on their push for immigration reform legislation.

50 posted on 08/15/2011 12:02:19 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
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