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There will no doubt be be those on this thread who say "But the Texas DREAM Act is different!"

Rick Perry's own words:

”We don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate”

He wants taxpayers to finance the education of the children of illegals, let them fill our classrooms and use up our resources, and even go so far as to let them go to our universities so they can take away the jobs of Americans...

All because “it’s not fair” that they should have to suffer. Sounds like quite an incentive for more illegals to pour over the borders.

1 posted on 08/15/2011 10:51:46 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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Rick Perry:

As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated.

The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions.

We must say to everyTexas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers.

That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 10:53:05 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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It is my understanding any kid who attends Texas pblic schools for 3 years gets in-state tuition if admitted to a state university?

If based on this issue you don’t want to vote for someone who thinks kids of undocumented parents should be treated the same way, in hopes the kids will become educated higher earning future taxpayers, then don’t vote for Governor Perry.

You will have other choices


3 posted on 08/15/2011 10:56:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (The super rich do not pay taxes, they collect taxes.)
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“To punish these young Texans for their parents’ actions...”

No, Rick. The point is that we should NOT REWARD children for their parents’ unlawful acts. Otherwise, we incent the parents to commit those unlawful acts.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:17 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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What candidate has other views on this subject?


6 posted on 08/15/2011 11:01:14 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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Has any GOP candidate taken a stand in support of enforcing our borders, or supporting Arizona's law?

They all seem as squishy as Bush and McCain...

Why do all the politicians care more about jobs for Mexican citizens than American citizens?

7 posted on 08/15/2011 11:02:13 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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"To punish these young Texans (sic) for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about,"

Yes, we should punish American children instead. Right, Rick?
8 posted on 08/15/2011 11:03:11 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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Dam. We already canceled the primaries and selected him as our candidate.
10 posted on 08/15/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by McGruff (a Sarah Palin supporter and proud of it.)
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He’s dreaming if he thinks I’ll support another Jorge Bush or Juan McCain.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 11:10:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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18 posted on 08/15/2011 11:16:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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It looks exactly like Rick Perry is part of the problem, not the solution!


20 posted on 08/15/2011 11:20:16 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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A look at liberal Maryland in the past several months will show exactly how the people feel about the Dream Act. Our governor signed a similar bill into law this spring and the people took to the petition streets to garner signatures to put this on the ballot. I believe around 52,000 confirmed signatures of registered voters were required and there were double that number of confirmed voter's signatures!

This is an issue that crosses party lines and is a BIG DEAL.

21 posted on 08/15/2011 11:21:18 AM PDT by Abby4116
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This is a smart move for Perry and only confirms my support for him. The Hispanic vote will be crucial next year. Obama is losing the Hispanics and Perry is smart to try and win their support. Now if he picks Rubio as his VP, then there’s no stopping the GOP in Nov. ‘12.


24 posted on 08/15/2011 11:27:56 AM PDT by Signalman
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25 posted on 08/15/2011 11:29:13 AM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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Bush II - warmed over lightly.

When Perry crashes and burns, expect the GOP establishment to pick Chris Christie and try and run him. But he is a much bigger target for conservative critics.


28 posted on 08/15/2011 11:32:06 AM PDT by ZULU (McConnell and Boehner are the Judas and Ephialtes of the 21st Century)
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Rick Perry is a nanny state statist, unafraid to spend taxpayer money in support of illegals in return for political favor.


37 posted on 08/15/2011 11:46:42 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
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“we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.”

I don't care where they come from, just how. Legally or illegally, there is a difference.

And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers.

Not at my expense. Get your corporate buddys to pay the bill, not me.

I'm sure the Perrybots will be along to tell us why this is ok......

43 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:30 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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This is the two-sidedness of Rick Perry I just don't understand. TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already. Perry includes himself when using the vernacular Tea Party. Yet Perry supports the national adoption of illegal immigrants and their offspring. And he advocates the Trans-Texas Super Corridor so that goods manufactured in Mexico, from companies avoiding taxes by moving manufacturing facilities to Mexico, have a quick and easy route back into the nation. And he supports programs like Gardasil for everyone. Just whose TAX dollars does he plan on using for these programs? We are Taxed Enough Already. Period. I don't want a dime of my money collected for any of these purposes. Punish the criminals, keep jobs in the States, and teach children to save it for marriage. You might not succeed, but failing to try is a travesty, and using my money to fund the alternative is criminal. For a guy who claims to be Tea Party, I'm just not squinting the right way to see it.


44 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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It’s not what he says, it what he does.


48 posted on 08/15/2011 12:00:45 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Perry in helicopter with Greta (TX-MX border is over 1250 miles)

2007: [excerpt] “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” [end excerpt] Source

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"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austin’s airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.

Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source

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CW: We've been dealt a hand here in Texas (and if you've read my threads you know much of this) where we have a federal government that has not answered the call to protect the 1250 border miles Texas shares with Mexico. Gov. Perry does not believe a fence is the answer to illegals crossing the U.S.-Mexican border. He believes conservative ascendancy will. So we do the best with what we have ($100M/yr of our own state money put up to help secure an international border). We have a lot of crime to combat and pay for because of the illegal activity (drugs, human smuggling and trafficking) generated by an unsecured international border.

We can't refuse to educate or give health care, as everyone in every state is faced with the same situation, but since Perry is a border gov, he's held responsible for illegal aliens, where everyone vents their frustration about the problem using him as a whipping boy (and to make political points and take pot shots). Perry's asked for drones (went to Israel and asked how they protect Gaza Strip), has asked for 3000 people here on the TX border (crickets). Perry has set up an elite Texas Ranger unit to work on the border. Then we find out the Feds have been "running guns" across the border and we've had people killed because of that.

The Texas Dream Act was set up because we have a lot of kids here from the way the feds have allowed this to snowball. Students who have been in Texas for 3 years and graduated from a Texas high school get instate tuition (no benefits -- they pay their way) The entire Texas Senate voted for this in 2001. (The Texas Dream Act does NOT have all the hidden goodies the U.S. Congress "Dream Act" was trying to get into law.)

Perry has said: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.”

The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days and the governor is allowed to call Special Sessions. He called a Special Session because he had put "sanctuary cities" on the agenda and the legislature dropped the ball -- but the Senate and then the House left again -- giving Gov. Perry nothing to sign (Texas legislators also have elections they'll be facing and no doubt didn't want a vote on this shadowing their re-election bids).

In this just ended session, after about 3 tries to slip it into a bill, a law that required people to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license got through [The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session......By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.]. However, the ink on that law was barely dry before it was overturned by a judge – as usual.

In this last Texas Legislative session Gov. Perry signed the Texas Photo ID Voting Law -- it took 6 years to get it through -- Only 6 states have a PHOTO Voter ID requirement.

Texas has a long history with Mexico and being "Mexican" does not mean that you aren't an American, or a Texan. A lot of Texans have Mexican heritage or are married to someone who does. Perry doesn't lead with his chin. He's a thoughtful man.

Rick Perry is as ready to fix this as anyone and understands it probably better than anyone running -- or commenting anonymously on a chat site.

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The 2001 TEXAS Dream Act was passed by 100% of the Texas Senate:

"It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the TEXAS Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach." Source

54 posted on 08/15/2011 12:09:49 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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In-state tuition for illegals is a bad idea even if a Republican is doing it. It also indicates an unwillingness to deal with our illegal immigration problem.


56 posted on 08/15/2011 12:18:02 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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