Skip to comments.Gregory Scolds Bachmann for Listening to Public Opinion on Debt Ceiling
Posted on 08/15/2011 11:46:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
It appears David Gregory is a bit confused about how our system of government works.
During intense questioning of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Sunday's "Meet the Press," the host scolded his guest for having the nerve to actually care what the American people thought about raising the debt ceiling (video follows with transcript and commentary):
DAVID GREGORY, HOST: Let me ask you about the debt ceiling. You were adamantly opposed to raising the debt ceiling. You voted against that.
REPRESENTATIVE MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MINNESOTA): Mm-hmm.
MR. GREGORY: And there's a lot of people who said that was an incredibly reckless thing to do for our economy.
REP. BACHMANN: Oh, hardly, hardly.
MR. GREGORY: But, wait...
REP. BACHMANN: Yeah.
MR. GREGORY: ...let me just, let me just take you through it. It wasn't just the president of the United States, it was also the chairman of the Federal Reserve, it was the Treasury secretary, it was your entire...
REP. BACHMANN: And they've done such a smashing job for us, haven't they?
MR. GREGORY: Well, if I can just finish the question. The entire Republican leadership thought that was the wrong thing to do. Major members of the business community in this country thought that was the wrong thing to do. Why should we trust your judgment that that was the right thing to do and not a reckless act...
REP. BACHMANN: Because...
MR. GREGORY: ...on the part of a congresswoman?
"Why should we trust your judgment that that was the right thing to do and not a reckless act on the part of a congresswoman?"
Before we get to Bachmann's answer, can you imagine Gregory or any member of the mainstream media asking this question of former Senator Hillary Clinton when she was running for president?
Or such a question being asked about votes made by other high-profile Democrat women such as former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), or Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.)?
But I digress:
REP. BACHMANN: It's a great question you're asking, a fantastic question. Because that's the judgment of the people of this country. The people of this country would love to weigh in, and they would love to say, "Tim Geithner, Treasury secretary, you're wrong. Mr. President, you're wrong." And that's what we...
MR. GREGORY: But this is why we have elected representatives, Congresswoman...
REP. BACHMANN: That's, that's really, that's really...
MR. GREGORY: ...who actually know the true financial impact of a step like this. Maybe people are against raising the debt ceiling, but the reality is, bipartisan agreement, in the business community saying you don't do that, you don't mess with the full faith and credit of the United States. Would you have voted the same way...
REP. BACHMANN: That's right, that's exactly right.
MR. GREGORY: ...if you were the deciding vote?
Actually, we have elected representatives to go to Washington and carry out the wishes of their constituents whenever it's possible.
In this instance, the public as measured by a July 12 Gallup poll were strongly opposed to raising the debt ceiling. Such people didn't want the United States to default on its debt. They instead rightly believed there were ample revenues coming in from tax receipts in August to pay the interest on all of our outstanding treasury paper.
As such, folks like Bachmann that were against raising the debt ceiling were indeed carrying out the wishes of their constituents without being anywhere near as reckless as the administration and their shills in the media claimed.
On top of this, Gregory is certainly no one to point fingers about knowing the "true financial impact" of not raising the debt ceiling as he completely neglected to determine that for his viewers when he interviewed treasury secretary Timothy Geithner in July.
Maybe if the "Meet the Press" host had grilled Geithner with the same intensity he did Bachmann, the nation would have been far better informed of the "true financial impact" of such a move:
REP. BACHMANN: That's right, you don't mess with the full faith and credit of the United States. That's why I introduced the bill that I did that would have prevented any form of default. It's President Obama who failed to put any sort of a plan forward. That's what led to uncertainty. I was at another business here in, in west Des Moines, Competitive Edge, and, and the owner of that company told me that their problem right now is, again, uncertainty and the fact that they didn't know what was going to happen with interest rates, they don't know what's going to happen with Obamacare, and so they're on hold right now for hiring. The president is not sending the right signals. And again, let me just answer your question because you said, well, all the people in Washington said we had to raise the debt ceiling, all the people out in America said don't raise the debt ceiling. That's the problem with Washington.
MR. GREGORY: Right. But, but why does that make it...
REP. BACHMANN: They're not listening to the people.
MR. GREGORY: ...why does it make it the right thing to do? I mean...
REP. BACHMANN: Well, because, because, because representatives are supposed to represent the people that they serve. The people that they're serving are saying, "You guys don't have it figured out. Stop spending money you don't have."
MR. GREGORY: But so public opinion will be the sole determinant of how you vote on a particular issue?
She didn't say it would be the sole determinant, but the wishes of constituents should certainly be a factor in how an elected official votes.
Unfortunately since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 and the White House in 2009, the Left and their media minions have gotten used to their representatives doing whatever they want with total disregard for public opinion.
Now that some folks on the right are once again paying attention to the voters, Gregory and his colleagues think it's "reckless."
Quite the contrary, what has been reckless for the past four years is Democrats passing bill after bill with far greater support from the press than the citizenry. That started to change this January, and people like Gregory can't stand it.
Of course doing the public's bidding will surely come back in vogue the second it's once again on the side of the Left.
Funny how the public is only important when their views mesh nicely with those of so-called journalists.
When this isn't the case, these very same citizens become immediately labeled as uninformed and reckless.
It's always quite a treat to watch the intellectual capacity of the average American quickly skyrocket when he or she agrees with the prevailing liberal view.
Gregory is a F’ing idiot.
Gregory is a F’ing idiot.
Someone tell Bachman to STOP TALKING TO THE LIBTARD MEDIA
Palin learned this already...
I missed that line because he was talking over her. She did a good job. I do wish she had said, "and what happened after the debt ceiling was raised?" That comment should completely slam his line of reasoning. Dead. Done.
Now THAT, my FRiend was worthy of a double post!
Bachmann isn’t my first choice, but Gregory is an ass and she did answer well.
I just heard his laughable interview with Michelle B on Rush.
The part that made me spray coke was where he inferred that congress critters actually understand economics.
You’ll find none of us with a real education (e.g. science and engineering) who do not laugh at Keynesian “economics”. In our world, that laughable piece of excra-Obama-ment is comparable to watching someone step into a bucket, pull on the handles, and expect themselves to rise.
But but but Obama just said he’s touring America to get grassroots ideas on how to improve the economy
The Left likes to pretend that we are a democracy, right up until the point where We The People reject big government, as run by a bunch of elitists. It is at that point that the Left steps right in and says "Whoa! You can't listen to the mob! Wouldn't it be better if we just had ... uhhh ... big government, as run by a bunch of really smart guys from the Ivy Leagues?"
She's a smart lady and is fully capable of correcting early missteps. This is a long way from over. (Except for Ron Paul.)
Gregory’s wife was a top lawyer at Fannie Mae when they were busy destroying the housing market. These folks belong in prison, not in front of a camera.
Imagine the public telling government it can’t keep borrowing to keep spending...
Shouldn’t you be on this thread calling anybody who didn’t want to raise the debt ceiling a “moron”?
David Gregory is such a jerk. Michele handled him very well.
Gregory is a F’ing idiot. And so is the President of the United States, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, the Treasury secretary, the entire Republican leadership, and major members of the business community in this country.
Why should we trust their judgment that that was the right thing to do when it has never worked before?
Cut the fricken spending you collective asses.
If raising the debt ceiling was the right thing to do, why did we get a credit downgrade after it was passed?
The question that I’m still waiting to hear posed to Bachmann is this one:
“What specific programs or agency budgets would you cut from the 2012 budget to achieve a savings of $1600 billion which would balance the budget and remove the need for an increase in the debt ceiling.”
Until I hear that answer I’m personally going to treat Bachmann’s vote against raising the debt ceiling as nothing more than political posturing.
And BTW, David, she also happens to be a very brilliant US tax attorney, so she may just know a little bit more about economics than you do.
Our candidates SHOULD talk to all media, take them on at every corner. If they don’t have the brains or guts to do it, they should not run.
Commies hate the idea of representative government.
Gregory proved his head is as thick as a castle wall. What a fool! What a blatantly rude fool! He should be cleaning toilets rather than taking up precious air time!
The stupid MSM only helps to show up Bachmann’s credulity than hurting her.
MR. GREGORY: ...let me just, let me just take you through it. It wasn’t just the president of the United States, it was also the chairman of the Federal Reserve, it was the Treasury secretary, it was your entire...
REP. BACHMANN: And they’ve done such a smashing job for us, haven’t they?
She has already stated that she would cut entitlements like Paul Ryan. That is what has to be cut, no two ways about it.
I wish any of the candidates who has no or little chance when given one of these argumentative questions by the like of Gregory or any of the rest of the street punk media, gets out from their podium and coldcocks the SOB. The could say as the questioner is picking themselves up off the floor: now you have heard from the right.
When Pawlenty started with his “What has she done” crap I was thinking “What have the successful people done over the past 5 years”?
Her success has been standing firm in the face of overwhelming odds. Going along to build a record of success would have been her failure.
In the end, I believe her in my gut.
“And there’s a lot of people who said that” the old Katey Couric line.
We have Sarah Harpies here....no way
Btw....do a little googling...see who some of the ring leaders supported in 2008
Like they should have any credibility
Gregory’s wife likely helped cook Fannie Mae’s books, which resulted in a huge phony profit. For this she probably got a huge bonus with the understanding that a sizable chunk of it would go to Bwaney Fwank, Doddering Fool Dodds and Bwana Zerobama campaign funds.
Now that is hilarious
He appeals to experts. Conservatives rely on experience. It is the age old battle between the "Gods" Of The Copybook Headings & the Pied Pipers of Socialism. (See Kipling's astute but concise analysis: The Gods Of The Copybook Headings; or to understand & avoid the folly that Gregory apparently accepts, A Better Way [How To Avoid Economic Crises!]
The Founders intended that the Representatives reflect the current will of the people, and that the Senators would take a longer view reflecting the will of the State Governors. So she is doing what she should do and the a*hole reps who voted for Obamacare against the will of the people were in the wrong.
Good point re Kipling’s poem. The copybook headings are Laws of Life that are violated at great risk.
The only time David Gregory has been semi coherent was when he appeared drunk on the Imus radio show. He should do meet the press while drunk, it might make more sense.
Gregory is an idiot.
He suggests we listen to even more bad advice from people who have shown themselves to be massive failures.....typical Lib...
She has already stated that she would cut entitlements like Paul Ryan. That is what has to be cut, no two ways about it.
That’s a perfectly reasonable position for Bachmann to take but that will hardly scratch the surface of a $1.6 trillion deficit. The fact of the matter is that nobody, including Michele Bachmann or Paul Ryan, has detailed a 2012 budget that comes in at anything like the $2.2 trillion that represents the U.S. Federal Governments FY2012 income.
So until I see that FY2012 balanced budget I’m just going to laugh at those politicians, mostly Tea Party types unfortunately, who are either just naive or are just voting what their constituents want - no more borrowing. While that sounds good even to me you have to be able to explain what the consequences would be if you actually managed to balance the budget in a single year. If you think that is easy consider the fact that even if you zeroed out the entire $670 billion Defense budget you would still have a long way to go.
If anyone believes that a FY2012 balanced budget is achievable just show us where the $1600 billion in cuts are coming from.
Bachmann it turned out did well voting ‘no’ because the final deal was another closed doors secret agreement that was shoved down members throats at the last minute much like the stimulus and obama-care and TARP were with trigger gimmick to try to hide the meaning of the vote. Amazing the MSM considers these smelly deals examples of ‘bi-partisonship Washington working’.
Just to be my usual contrarian self, you cant cut entitlement spending without defying the results of most polls. So 'the views of the American people' is usually what ends up giving us deficits even though they say they hate them, that and big deals.
Very great risk, indeed. As, for example, Keynesian Harvest.
This is the conceit of the left. They know better, so you have no right to speak up against their views.
During our own Great Recession, the multiplier has been below 1.0! And still declining....
Gregory is like the rest of the left. He beats up girls. They are effing fascists.
“Keynes didn’t believe that government stimulus would work if the money multiplier was less than 2.”
The multiplier is always negative. When the government spends, the private sector and the economy contracts. Keynes was wrong.