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Gregory Scolds Bachmann for Listening to Public Opinion on Debt Ceiling
News Busters ^ | August 15, 2010 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 08/15/2011 11:46:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

It appears David Gregory is a bit confused about how our system of government works.

During intense questioning of Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) on Sunday's "Meet the Press," the host scolded his guest for having the nerve to actually care what the American people thought about raising the debt ceiling (video follows with transcript and commentary):

DAVID GREGORY, HOST: Let me ask you about the debt ceiling. You were adamantly opposed to raising the debt ceiling. You voted against that.

REPRESENTATIVE MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MINNESOTA): Mm-hmm.

MR. GREGORY: And there's a lot of people who said that was an incredibly reckless thing to do for our economy.

REP. BACHMANN: Oh, hardly, hardly.

MR. GREGORY: But, wait...

REP. BACHMANN: Yeah.

MR. GREGORY: ...let me just, let me just take you through it. It wasn't just the president of the United States, it was also the chairman of the Federal Reserve, it was the Treasury secretary, it was your entire...

REP. BACHMANN: And they've done such a smashing job for us, haven't they?

MR. GREGORY: Well, if I can just finish the question. The entire Republican leadership thought that was the wrong thing to do. Major members of the business community in this country thought that was the wrong thing to do. Why should we trust your judgment that that was the right thing to do and not a reckless act...

REP. BACHMANN: Because...

MR. GREGORY: ...on the part of a congresswoman?

"Why should we trust your judgment that that was the right thing to do and not a reckless act on the part of a congresswoman?"

Before we get to Bachmann's answer, can you imagine Gregory or any member of the mainstream media asking this question of former Senator Hillary Clinton when she was running for president?

Or such a question being asked about votes made by other high-profile Democrat women such as former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), or Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.)?

But I digress:

REP. BACHMANN: It's a great question you're asking, a fantastic question. Because that's the judgment of the people of this country. The people of this country would love to weigh in, and they would love to say, "Tim Geithner, Treasury secretary, you're wrong. Mr. President, you're wrong." And that's what we...

MR. GREGORY: But this is why we have elected representatives, Congresswoman...

REP. BACHMANN: That's, that's really, that's really...

MR. GREGORY: ...who actually know the true financial impact of a step like this. Maybe people are against raising the debt ceiling, but the reality is, bipartisan agreement, in the business community saying you don't do that, you don't mess with the full faith and credit of the United States. Would you have voted the same way...

REP. BACHMANN: That's right, that's exactly right.

MR. GREGORY: ...if you were the deciding vote?

Actually, we have elected representatives to go to Washington and carry out the wishes of their constituents whenever it's possible.

In this instance, the public as measured by a July 12 Gallup poll were strongly opposed to raising the debt ceiling. Such people didn't want the United States to default on its debt. They instead rightly believed there were ample revenues coming in from tax receipts in August to pay the interest on all of our outstanding treasury paper.

As such, folks like Bachmann that were against raising the debt ceiling were indeed carrying out the wishes of their constituents without being anywhere near as reckless as the administration and their shills in the media claimed.

On top of this, Gregory is certainly no one to point fingers about knowing the "true financial impact" of not raising the debt ceiling as he completely neglected to determine that for his viewers when he interviewed treasury secretary Timothy Geithner in July.

Maybe if the "Meet the Press" host had grilled Geithner with the same intensity he did Bachmann, the nation would have been far better informed of the "true financial impact" of such a move:

REP. BACHMANN: That's right, you don't mess with the full faith and credit of the United States. That's why I introduced the bill that I did that would have prevented any form of default. It's President Obama who failed to put any sort of a plan forward. That's what led to uncertainty. I was at another business here in, in west Des Moines, Competitive Edge, and, and the owner of that company told me that their problem right now is, again, uncertainty and the fact that they didn't know what was going to happen with interest rates, they don't know what's going to happen with Obamacare, and so they're on hold right now for hiring. The president is not sending the right signals. And again, let me just answer your question because you said, well, all the people in Washington said we had to raise the debt ceiling, all the people out in America said don't raise the debt ceiling. That's the problem with Washington.

MR. GREGORY: Right. But, but why does that make it...

REP. BACHMANN: They're not listening to the people.

MR. GREGORY: ...why does it make it the right thing to do? I mean...

REP. BACHMANN: Well, because, because, because representatives are supposed to represent the people that they serve. The people that they're serving are saying, "You guys don't have it figured out. Stop spending money you don't have."

MR. GREGORY: But so public opinion will be the sole determinant of how you vote on a particular issue?

She didn't say it would be the sole determinant, but the wishes of constituents should certainly be a factor in how an elected official votes.

Unfortunately since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 and the White House in 2009, the Left and their media minions have gotten used to their representatives doing whatever they want with total disregard for public opinion.

Now that some folks on the right are once again paying attention to the voters, Gregory and his colleagues think it's "reckless."

Quite the contrary, what has been reckless for the past four years is Democrats passing bill after bill with far greater support from the press than the citizenry. That started to change this January, and people like Gregory can't stand it.

Of course doing the public's bidding will surely come back in vogue the second it's once again on the side of the Left.

Funny how the public is only important when their views mesh nicely with those of so-called journalists.

When this isn't the case, these very same citizens become immediately labeled as uninformed and reckless.

It's always quite a treat to watch the intellectual capacity of the average American quickly skyrocket when he or she agrees with the prevailing liberal view.


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1 posted on 08/15/2011 11:46:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Gregory is a F’ing idiot.

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2 posted on 08/15/2011 11:48:54 AM PDT by flatfish
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To: Kaslin

Gregory is a F’ing idiot.

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3 posted on 08/15/2011 11:49:01 AM PDT by flatfish
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To: Kaslin

Someone tell Bachman to STOP TALKING TO THE LIBTARD MEDIA

Palin learned this already...


4 posted on 08/15/2011 11:52:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Kaslin
MR. GREGORY: And there's a lot of people who said that was an incredibly reckless thing to do for our economy.

Well Dave, hard as it is for your kind to grasp, if the people want the economy destroyed, government has no right to get in the way. Instead, idiots like you have no problem with government destroying the economy against the wishes of the people.
5 posted on 08/15/2011 11:52:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Kaslin
And they've done such a smashing job for us, haven't they?

I missed that line because he was talking over her. She did a good job. I do wish she had said, "and what happened after the debt ceiling was raised?" That comment should completely slam his line of reasoning. Dead. Done.

6 posted on 08/15/2011 11:53:42 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: flatfish

Now THAT, my FRiend was worthy of a double post!

Bachmann isn’t my first choice, but Gregory is an ass and she did answer well.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 11:53:52 AM PDT by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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8 posted on 08/15/2011 11:54:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Kaslin
Scolded for listening to the public...better get on Obama pronto!!!
9 posted on 08/15/2011 11:54:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Kaslin

I just heard his laughable interview with Michelle B on Rush.

The part that made me spray coke was where he inferred that congress critters actually understand economics.

You’ll find none of us with a real education (e.g. science and engineering) who do not laugh at Keynesian “economics”. In our world, that laughable piece of excra-Obama-ment is comparable to watching someone step into a bucket, pull on the handles, and expect themselves to rise.


10 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

But but but Obama just said he’s touring America to get grassroots ideas on how to improve the economy


11 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Kaslin
MR. GREGORY: But this is why we have elected representatives, Congresswoman...

The Left likes to pretend that we are a democracy, right up until the point where We The People reject big government, as run by a bunch of elitists. It is at that point that the Left steps right in and says "Whoa! You can't listen to the mob! Wouldn't it be better if we just had ... uhhh ... big government, as run by a bunch of really smart guys from the Ivy Leagues?"

12 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Kaslin
She did good. And she was able to take out Pawlenty.

She's a smart lady and is fully capable of correcting early missteps. This is a long way from over. (Except for Ron Paul.)

13 posted on 08/15/2011 11:56:27 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Kaslin

Gregory’s wife was a top lawyer at Fannie Mae when they were busy destroying the housing market. These folks belong in prison, not in front of a camera.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 11:56:46 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Kaslin

Imagine the public telling government it can’t keep borrowing to keep spending...


15 posted on 08/15/2011 11:57:11 AM PDT by pallis
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To: curiosity

Shouldn’t you be on this thread calling anybody who didn’t want to raise the debt ceiling a “moron”?


16 posted on 08/15/2011 11:57:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Kaslin
Just heard this exchange on Rush.

David Gregory is such a jerk. Michele handled him very well.

17 posted on 08/15/2011 11:58:15 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Kaslin
Well just look at all the times a**WP gregory has been elected. LOL
18 posted on 08/15/2011 11:58:26 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: flatfish

Gregory is a F’ing idiot. And so is the President of the United States, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, the Treasury secretary, the entire Republican leadership, and major members of the business community in this country.

Why should we trust their judgment that that was the right thing to do when it has never worked before?

Cut the fricken spending you collective asses.

If raising the debt ceiling was the right thing to do, why did we get a credit downgrade after it was passed?


19 posted on 08/15/2011 11:58:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer is anti-US, the West, Christian, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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To: Kaslin

The question that I’m still waiting to hear posed to Bachmann is this one:

“What specific programs or agency budgets would you cut from the 2012 budget to achieve a savings of $1600 billion which would balance the budget and remove the need for an increase in the debt ceiling.”

Until I hear that answer I’m personally going to treat Bachmann’s vote against raising the debt ceiling as nothing more than political posturing.


20 posted on 08/15/2011 11:59:31 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: Kaslin
"....because representatives are supposed to represent the people that they serve. The people that they're serving are saying, "You guys don't have it figured out. Stop spending money you don't have.""

Spot on.
And BTW, David, she also happens to be a very brilliant US tax attorney, so she may just know a little bit more about economics than you do.

21 posted on 08/15/2011 12:00:06 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Mr. K

Our candidates SHOULD talk to all media, take them on at every corner. If they don’t have the brains or guts to do it, they should not run.


22 posted on 08/15/2011 12:03:04 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Kaslin

Commies hate the idea of representative government.


23 posted on 08/15/2011 12:04:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin

Gregory proved his head is as thick as a castle wall. What a fool! What a blatantly rude fool! He should be cleaning toilets rather than taking up precious air time!
The stupid MSM only helps to show up Bachmann’s credulity than hurting her.


24 posted on 08/15/2011 12:05:10 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: Kaslin

MR. GREGORY: ...let me just, let me just take you through it. It wasn’t just the president of the United States, it was also the chairman of the Federal Reserve, it was the Treasury secretary, it was your entire...

REP. BACHMANN: And they’ve done such a smashing job for us, haven’t they?

Priceless!


25 posted on 08/15/2011 12:05:29 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Kaslin
To hear all the Palin cheerleaders tell it, Bachman only speaks in political sound bites and cannot answer questions from reporters (See the CNN hit piece thread on Bachman put on here by the Palin cheerleaders). Of course, if you go actually watch the CNN hit piece, it does not show that at all, which is about one would expect from the lying liberal MSM.
26 posted on 08/15/2011 12:06:26 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: magritte
Our candidates SHOULD talk to all media, take them on at every corner. If they don’t have the brains or guts to do it, they should not run.

Agreed. What doesn't kill them makes them stronger.
27 posted on 08/15/2011 12:06:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: InterceptPoint
“Until I hear that answer I’m personally going to treat Bachmann’s vote against raising the debt ceiling as nothing more than political posturing.”

She has already stated that she would cut entitlements like Paul Ryan. That is what has to be cut, no two ways about it.

28 posted on 08/15/2011 12:08:43 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile

I wish any of the candidates who has no or little chance when given one of these argumentative questions by the like of Gregory or any of the rest of the street punk media, gets out from their podium and coldcocks the SOB. The could say as the questioner is picking themselves up off the floor: now you have heard from the right.


29 posted on 08/15/2011 12:10:20 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: forgotten man

When Pawlenty started with his “What has she done” crap I was thinking “What have the successful people done over the past 5 years”?

Her success has been standing firm in the face of overwhelming odds. Going along to build a record of success would have been her failure.

In the end, I believe her in my gut.


30 posted on 08/15/2011 12:12:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Kaslin

“And there’s a lot of people who said that” the old Katey Couric line.


31 posted on 08/15/2011 12:15:46 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: HwyChile

We have Sarah Harpies here....no way

Btw....do a little googling...see who some of the ring leaders supported in 2008

Like they should have any credibility


32 posted on 08/15/2011 12:16:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: Kaslin
When Obozo was first elected the Lame Stream Media was all over itself fawning about how the “People” had spoken out for “Hope” and “Change”. Now that the “People” have turned against the current occupier of the WH, they don't know how to handle it.
33 posted on 08/15/2011 12:22:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Gregory’s wife likely helped cook Fannie Mae’s books, which resulted in a huge phony profit. For this she probably got a huge bonus with the understanding that a sizable chunk of it would go to Bwaney Fwank, Doddering Fool Dodds and Bwana Zerobama campaign funds.


34 posted on 08/15/2011 12:27:43 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (The original "Cash for Clunkers" program: the DNC Campaign fund)
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To: tsowellfan
But but but Obama just said he’s touring America to get grassroots ideas on how to improve the economy

Now that is hilarious

35 posted on 08/15/2011 12:30:00 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: wardaddy
LOL. I like Palin, but she either needs to get in or get out. She is doing damage to conservatives by not making up her mind. We have Palin folks who “hope” she gets in and will bash Bachman in the mean time. That is going to cause the RINOs (Romney and Perry) to run away with the GOP nomination and leave out any chance for a more conservative candidate like Bachman or even Palin if she decides to run.
36 posted on 08/15/2011 12:30:52 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: Kaslin

TWO THINGS Michele Bachmann has proven :


All the other candidates "promise" these things. She alone, with her debt ceiling vote, has *proven* it. In a short period of time, I have become a huge fan of Mrs. Bachmann. And I say that as a Packer fan talking about a Viking fan.


37 posted on 08/15/2011 12:35:26 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Kaslin
Gregory does not understand the difference between Keynesian economics & the economics that armed these United States with the most successful economy that the world has ever known, before the Keynesian onslaught began to compromise that achievement..

He appeals to experts. Conservatives rely on experience. It is the age old battle between the "Gods" Of The Copybook Headings & the Pied Pipers of Socialism. (See Kipling's astute but concise analysis: The Gods Of The Copybook Headings; or to understand & avoid the folly that Gregory apparently accepts, A Better Way [How To Avoid Economic Crises!]

William Flax

38 posted on 08/15/2011 12:40:17 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Kaslin

The Founders intended that the Representatives reflect the current will of the people, and that the Senators would take a longer view reflecting the will of the State Governors. So she is doing what she should do and the a*hole reps who voted for Obamacare against the will of the people were in the wrong.


39 posted on 08/15/2011 12:45:46 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Ohioan

Good point re Kipling’s poem. The copybook headings are Laws of Life that are violated at great risk.


40 posted on 08/15/2011 12:49:48 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Kaslin

The only time David Gregory has been semi coherent was when he appeared drunk on the Imus radio show. He should do meet the press while drunk, it might make more sense.


41 posted on 08/15/2011 12:51:36 PM PDT by milemark
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To: All

Gregory is an idiot.
He suggests we listen to even more bad advice from people who have shown themselves to be massive failures.....typical Lib...


42 posted on 08/15/2011 1:07:26 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: HwyChile

She has already stated that she would cut entitlements like Paul Ryan. That is what has to be cut, no two ways about it.
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That’s a perfectly reasonable position for Bachmann to take but that will hardly scratch the surface of a $1.6 trillion deficit. The fact of the matter is that nobody, including Michele Bachmann or Paul Ryan, has detailed a 2012 budget that comes in at anything like the $2.2 trillion that represents the U.S. Federal Governments FY2012 income.

So until I see that FY2012 balanced budget I’m just going to laugh at those politicians, mostly Tea Party types unfortunately, who are either just naive or are just voting what their constituents want - no more borrowing. While that sounds good even to me you have to be able to explain what the consequences would be if you actually managed to balance the budget in a single year. If you think that is easy consider the fact that even if you zeroed out the entire $670 billion Defense budget you would still have a long way to go.

If anyone believes that a FY2012 balanced budget is achievable just show us where the $1600 billion in cuts are coming from.


43 posted on 08/15/2011 1:11:15 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: Kaslin; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; LMAO; indylindy; ...
Bachmann gets ‘-A’ for guts for going back on those shows and defending her conservative positions. Gregory trying to get her on her past statements on Gays was even worse. She didnt apologize for them or deny them nor did she get lured into getting off subject explaining them.

Bachmann it turned out did well voting ‘no’ because the final deal was another closed doors secret agreement that was shoved down members throats at the last minute much like the stimulus and obama-care and TARP were with trigger gimmick to try to hide the meaning of the vote. Amazing the MSM considers these smelly deals examples of ‘bi-partisonship Washington working’.

Just to be my usual contrarian self, you cant cut entitlement spending without defying the results of most polls. So 'the views of the American people' is usually what ends up giving us deficits even though they say they hate them, that and big deals.

44 posted on 08/15/2011 1:23:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: expatpat
The copybook headings are Laws of Life that are violated at great risk.

Very great risk, indeed. As, for example, Keynesian Harvest.

William Flax

45 posted on 08/15/2011 1:25:21 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Kaslin

This is the conceit of the left. They know better, so you have no right to speak up against their views.


46 posted on 08/15/2011 1:29:54 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Ohioan
Keynes didn't believe that government stimulus would work if the money multiplier was less than 2. For example:
Under conditions such as the Great Depression, Keynes argued that this approach would be relatively ineffective compared to fiscal policy. But, during more "normal" times, monetary expansion can stimulate the economy. -- Wikipedia.

During our own Great Recession, the multiplier has been below 1.0! And still declining....

47 posted on 08/15/2011 1:42:27 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Kaslin

Gregory is like the rest of the left. He beats up girls. They are effing fascists.


48 posted on 08/15/2011 1:42:37 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: InterceptPoint
I agree the cuts are not enough, but it is more than the other candidates have offered. Do you hold out for a candidate that has yet to come forward with a better plan or do you go with the one that cuts the most like her? I don't believe in waiting for “hope” and “Change”, so a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. If you have a better viable candidate, let's here of him or her.
49 posted on 08/15/2011 2:06:02 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: expatpat

“Keynes didn’t believe that government stimulus would work if the money multiplier was less than 2.”

The multiplier is always negative. When the government spends, the private sector and the economy contracts. Keynes was wrong.


50 posted on 08/15/2011 2:09:27 PM PDT by HwyChile
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