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George Will declares: There is no Republican 'establishment'
The Daily Caller ^ | August 15, 2011 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 08/15/2011 1:11:12 PM PDT by caroline2005nc

As the conservative movement has ascended, some see new tensions between conservatives and the more moderate Republican “establishment.” But that’s no longer the case, says Washington Post columnist George Will — because Republican establishment doesn’t exist.

On Sunday’s online “Green Room” segment of ABC’s “This Week,” Will said the “establishment” of the Republican Party died nearly 50 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: georgewill; republican
I don't know... I think the Republican establishment is alive and well... Didn't the debt deal emanate from establishment Republicans???
1 posted on 08/15/2011 1:11:17 PM PDT by caroline2005nc
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To: caroline2005nc

Will’s part of the ‘elite’, so it’s no surprise he says that!


2 posted on 08/15/2011 1:13:59 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: caroline2005nc

Aw, cmon now that sounds like something Tokyo Rove would say...


3 posted on 08/15/2011 1:14:14 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: caroline2005nc

“George Will declares: There is no Republican ‘establishment’”

People like George and Michael Medved are the mouthpieces of the establishment that George denies.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 1:14:14 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Bachmann, Cain, Palin, Santorum, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: caroline2005nc
Let me guess, George Will is pulling for Romney?

Just a guess

5 posted on 08/15/2011 1:14:45 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: caroline2005nc

Did George have a nostalgic tear in his eye when he was spewing this nonsense?


6 posted on 08/15/2011 1:15:33 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: caroline2005nc

Don’t look now, George, but you write in favor of the RINO establishment.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 1:15:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: caroline2005nc

“There is no Mafia” — Tony Soprano

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0705236/quotes


8 posted on 08/15/2011 1:15:46 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Bingo. Give that man a cigar.

Bill Krystol... there a number of examples.

Put them out to pasture. Please!


9 posted on 08/15/2011 1:15:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The Destroyer is anti-US, the West, Christian, Israel, banks, W.S., Corps, & the free enterpr systm.)
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To: caroline2005nc

They used to say that about the Mafia.


10 posted on 08/15/2011 1:16:29 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: caroline2005nc

Here is an out-dated list of GOP elite.

http://republicanwhip.house.gov/newsroom/2009/04/national-council-for-a-new-america-formed.html

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

(snip)

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Ensign, John Cornyn, John Thune, Kay Bailey Hutchison

//

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/gingrich-to-be-a-public-face-of-cantors-effort-to-remake-gop/

Gingrich Joins Cantor’s Effort To Remake GOP


11 posted on 08/15/2011 1:16:59 PM PDT by maggief
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To: caroline2005nc

I guess that is settled, would a GOP establishment pundit lie?


12 posted on 08/15/2011 1:18:25 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: caroline2005nc
As someone who has been involved in GOP politics for over 30 years I can assure you Mr Wills has no clue what he is talking about on this issue.

Thankfully the Tea Party is working hard to change that but the Establishment is not going without a fight.

It's "Their party" don't you know? Who gets the nomination for 2012 is going to be a very very important part of this fight.

13 posted on 08/15/2011 1:19:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: caroline2005nc

What a bunch of BS


14 posted on 08/15/2011 1:20:46 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: caroline2005nc

Hey George, it’s the Republic ELITES, not “establishment.”

You know, the ones who all have gay children.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:01 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: caroline2005nc

I would agree...its morphed into the RinoCracy with both sides of the aisle uniting behind the devastation their policies have wrought on the USA.....the DC politicos vs Flyover Country.....

the Talibunnies...if they could appreciate it...would be envious ...


16 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:11 PM PDT by mo
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To: caroline2005nc

Oh please. What utter crap, George. And they are trying to suck us into it.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:29 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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18 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: caroline2005nc

It’s sad. Only 70 years old and senile?


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20 posted on 08/15/2011 1:24:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Grunthor

Yeah. I used to like medvedev, but his political views regarding conservative republicans are no longer in synch with mine


21 posted on 08/15/2011 1:26:02 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks caroline2005nc.
Will said the "establishment" of the Republican Party died nearly 50 years ago.
If he's referring to the Goldwater campaign in 1964, which helped usher in the Reagan administration, then he's still wrong -- Nixon and Ford were moderates -- and Ford's VP Rockefeller was clearly no conservative.


22 posted on 08/15/2011 1:28:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: caroline2005nc

George should go take in a baseball game.


23 posted on 08/15/2011 1:28:25 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: caroline2005nc
Hey George, ever hear of Karl Rove?
24 posted on 08/15/2011 1:29:35 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: RobRoy

Medvedev = medved. Dang autocorrect!


25 posted on 08/15/2011 1:31:35 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: caroline2005nc

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26 posted on 08/15/2011 1:32:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (i'm shocked, shocked I tell you.)
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To: caroline2005nc
You don't think there is a "Republican establishment" because you are part of it, George.

The Tea Party is the anti-establishment.

There would be no Tea Party had there not been a GOP establishment doing whatever they Hell they pleased.

27 posted on 08/15/2011 1:32:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Regulation is government control of capital, and government control of capital is socialism.)
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To: tumblindice

(Man I been dyin’ to get `ignominy’ off my chest)


28 posted on 08/15/2011 1:35:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (i'm shocked, shocked I tell you.)
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To: caroline2005nc

I think he is fairly on point with this. Notice, he did not say there was no such thing a RINOs. We all know that there are just way too many of those critters out there. What he is saying is that there is no longer an established power base that can consistently push their RINO candidates down our throats.

Will they succeed every now and then? Yeah. But who knows if the dinosaurs were all killed out in one huge event or rather died out over a generation. The Bushes certainly failed to get Hutchinson to unseat Perry.


29 posted on 08/15/2011 1:37:24 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: caroline2005nc

Like a fish denying the existence of water.


30 posted on 08/15/2011 1:41:03 PM PDT by lurk
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To: caroline2005nc
There may be no "Republican Establishment", as Will defines it.

But there is most certainly a "Washington Establishment" present in the Republican party.

Being part of it, Will would be unlikely to recognize it.

31 posted on 08/15/2011 1:41:40 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: caroline2005nc

I mean, George Will is sort of a sad caricature of the establishment.


32 posted on 08/15/2011 1:46:13 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: caroline2005nc

Two small fry are out swimming one morning. A big salmon passes them, and says: “Good Morning boys, how is the water today?”

The fry reply “Good Morning, sir”, and once they pass the salmon, one of them asks the other: “What is water?”


33 posted on 08/15/2011 1:54:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: caroline2005nc

:-D )))


34 posted on 08/15/2011 2:32:44 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: caroline2005nc

The Republican Establishment is as much an enemy of Constitutional governance as Democrats.

According to R elitists like Will, he and his fellow elitists are the “real” Republicans, and actual conservatives are kooks and nutcases.

That’s why they always want to foist horrible insider RINO establishment candidates on us.


35 posted on 08/15/2011 2:37:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caroline2005nc

Comrade Will is engaging in dezinformatsiya; by denying the existence of a Republican establishment he is attempting to increase its power, which is threatened by any grassroots movement such as the Tea Party. Anyone who is a conservative knows that there are Republicans who might as well be Democrats, and that many of them occupy positions with a great deal of influence and power. It becomes even more patently obvious when one considers the fact that the socialists programs advocated by the Democrats have not been halted, nor removed, even when they fail. Will protests too much- the evidence is against his claim.


36 posted on 08/15/2011 2:44:13 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: caroline2005nc
Actually, he has a point. Read Theodore White's Making of the President books.

Fifty years ago, there was a powerful WASP Establishment Republican complex centered on the Upper East Side of Manhattan -- Time Magazine and the New York Herald-Tribune, First National City Bank and Chase Manhattan -- and extending out through Harvard, Yale, and Princeton connections across the country to take in General Motors, United States Steel, General Electric, Goodyear, and the rest of corporate America.

It's all gone. Some of the periodicals and corporations are gone or are in trouble. Others have turned Democrat. The real power in the Republican party is elsewhere. Those old WASPs are dead or Democrats or feeling very out of place in the GOP.

Look at it this way: when some liberal talks about "conservative Democrats" don't you want to point out that the old "conservative Democrats" -- Stennis, Russell, Eastland, Ervin, McClellan, Byrd* -- are long gone and that any Democrat in Congress today can't really be called a conservative?

If you've thought about it, you probably do. It's the same way with liberal Republicans and the "Republican Establishment." Whatever's around today isn't really worthy of the name compared to what once was.

37 posted on 08/15/2011 3:05:16 PM PDT by x (* Not the one who died recently. The other, real Byrds from the other Virginia.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
Will’s part of the ‘elite’, so it’s no surprise he says that!

I think Will's correct in the sense that there's no longer a backroom group that steers the nomination process. The primary system has done away with that.

What we call the "establishment" is really just the remnants of the old, go-along-to-get-along progressive Republicans. We can eliminate them through elections, something the establishment wasn't subject to.

38 posted on 08/15/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Does Will know that the true democrat party has been dead since then as well. The TRUE DEMOCRAT PARTY that worked hard to PUT PEOPLE TO WORK instead of send the jobs out of the country. What an idiot.


39 posted on 08/15/2011 3:18:23 PM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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