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Cameron: Riot-hit UK must reverse `moral collapse' [Uh, you're too late Dave]
Ass Press ^ | August 15, 2011 | DAVID STRINGER and SHAWN POGATCHNIK

Posted on 08/15/2011 1:59:03 PM PDT by upchuck

Britain must confront a culture of laziness, irresponsibility and selfishness that fueled four days of riots which left five people dead, thousands facing criminal charges and hundreds of millions in damages, Prime Minister David Cameron acknowledged Monday.

As rival political leaders staked out their response to England's unrest, Cameron pledged to deliver a raft of new policies by October aimed at reversing the "slow-motion moral collapse" which he blames for fostering the disorder.

"This has been a wake-up call for our country. Social problems that have been festering for decades have exploded in our face," Cameron told an audience at a youth center in Witney, his Parliamentary district in southern England. "Just as people last week wanted criminals robustly confronted on our street, so they want to see these social problems taken on and defeated."

Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said Monday he was checking whether those involved in the riots should have their welfare payments cut, while London mayor Boris Johnson said young people convicted in the disorder would lose their right to use public transportation for free.

Cameron pledged to end a culture of timidity in discussing family breakdown or poor parenting, or in criticizing those who fail to set a good example to their children or community.

"We have been too unwilling for too long to talk about what is right and what is wrong," Cameron said. "We have too often avoided saying what needs to be said, about everything from marriage to welfare to common courtesy."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cameron; formerlygreatbritain; oncegreatbritain; uk
Uh, Dave, you're about 30 years too late. You've allowed your country to turn into a radical melting pot. But don't feel lonely, the US is right behind you. 5-10 years more, maybe less, and we'll have the same problems as you.

Maybe we can learn from your solutions.

1 posted on 08/15/2011 1:59:05 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

There is one way to do this fast. Turn off the spending spigot. Stop the payments to anyone who simply sits on their ass with their hand out. Make them work to have a house, food and heat. Do you think it will happen? I doubt it.


2 posted on 08/15/2011 2:04:08 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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3 posted on 08/15/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
There is one way to do this fast. Turn off the spending spigot. Stop the payments to anyone who simply sits on their ass with their hand out. Make them work to have a house, food and heat. Do you think it will happen? I doubt it.

Only if the opposition is willing to "compromise" in a "bi-partisan" effort.

4 posted on 08/15/2011 2:08:12 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: upchuck

The Turmoil in Dave’s Mind:

Lets see...Christian church goers are “nutters”, racists and homophobes...and there “no fun” to hang out with Check

Multiculturalism has failed...check

Make all British to convert to Islam and sharia Law....cut off a few limbs and maybe a few heads and we’ll have order again....yeaaaahhhhh that’s the ticket!

(sarcasm on)


5 posted on 08/15/2011 2:17:08 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: upchuck

It’s NEVER too late.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 2:18:34 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: mdmathis6; upchuck

“there, there!” I meant to say they’re!


7 posted on 08/15/2011 2:18:34 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: upchuck

They will try to do it without God, and they are doomed to failure. What England needs is a country-wide revival. Watch the Islamists heads explode, if it were tried. But short of that they are past the point of reversal. If you teach people that the world revolves around them, and then tell them to behave, it won’t work. They want to world to conform to them, and have no interest in conforming to other peoples’ expectations.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 2:32:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: upchuck

Cameron himself didn’t do it - this is the product of 50 years of radical, thuggish, union-dominated socialism, since shortly after the end of WWII.

We already have the same problems in the US (a welfare-class lumpenproletariat, both black and white, that can’t be bothered to lift a finger except to commit crimes) and absolutely no common moral standards, because we have surrendered everything to the almighty State.

Maybe he’ll try to make some stab at reversing it, but will he get support? I doubt it. One person who has been singularly silent is the Archbishop of Canterbury, who theoretically should be a moral authority...but I guess he’s too busy promoting gay “marriage” for elderly bishops.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 2:35:39 PM PDT by livius
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To: Da Bilge Troll
My friend", we can reach a deal that can move this country forward. I'll just agree to your socialism".

s/Juan McInsane

10 posted on 08/15/2011 2:37:18 PM PDT by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: livius

This ‘ One person who has been singularly silent is the Archbishop of Canterbury, who theoretically should be a moral authority...but I guess he’s too busy promoting gay “marriage” for elderly bishops.
and don’t forget he has spoken out FOR sharia law

here is USA I hope we will learn their lesson. We have many find black leaders who have tried to step up but get shot down.
The Mayor of Philly called the thugs out for what they are doing. I wonder if it did any good

The problem with cutting them off is it gives them more incentive to steal


11 posted on 08/15/2011 2:39:30 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: upchuck
No. The Brits should have thought of this back in the 1940s when they decided to ignore the obvious reason why the theories of Karl Marx will not work and will, in fact, dectroy the economy, the moral fiber, and ultimately the entire nation.

When the Brits decided to shackle their nation with socialism, they sealed its doom.

What we're seeing today is what was predictable 60 or 70 years ago.

Only a fool would follow their example.

That should terrify all benevolent souls, because there are millions of fools in the U.S.A.

12 posted on 08/15/2011 2:42:47 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("This is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" --Ann Coulter)
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To: RWGinger

Here, theoretically, we have cut off welfare for young, healthy working age people. But the girls get pregnant and collect for their kids, and the males go around to their baby mommas (and their own mothers) and harvest their welfare checks. In England, the subsidies go directly to the men, so at least it is possible to cut them off (although I don’t think it’s going to happen).


13 posted on 08/15/2011 2:45:34 PM PDT by livius
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To: upchuck

Should have listened to Enoch Powell, while you still had the chance.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 2:46:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: livius

ah thanks for that info
I didn’t know the marxists in the Uk were actucally giving money to able bodied men
You are right, here in USA after we pay for a female to have a baby we give her WIC which pays for food for her AND the baby until the baby is 5 in addition to food stamps and free meals at schools, plus housing, all medical ( including vision and dental) and cell phones
So much easier than going out to work
This MUST stop here.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 2:57:24 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: upchuck
Yes, you're right. British society appears to be plummeting toward a societal null. And the same thing is happening in many cities in this country, the only difference being the great diversity of this nation.

Yesterday someone posted a video link where people walked into a convenience store en mass took what they wanted and simply walked out. We all know that there are places/cities in this country where something like this can happen and there will likely be no consequences. It would not happen in small towns or rural areas and, if it did, it would be promptly put-down and punished. Rural societies are usually close knit and roguish behavior is simply not tolerated. Not only that, political correctness doesn't usually reign supreme in rural areas.

16 posted on 08/15/2011 3:00:36 PM PDT by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: upchuck

WAY too late. Barn-horses-long gone.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 3:29:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Exactly. “Discussing” and “criticising” and “pointing fingers” isn’t going to accomplish anything as long as the money keeps flowing. If the money-down-the-drain classes (welfare beneficiaries, “students,” unions, government employees) are going to riot over even discussing modest cutbacks in “benefits,” then they might as well privatize the whole country in one fell swoop and fight it out once and for all.

(Do you hear me, Republican candidates for POTUS?)


18 posted on 08/15/2011 4:04:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: dfwgator

Heck, the worst ones were the native born Brits. That’s what the welfare state does to people. Makes them revert to animals.


19 posted on 08/15/2011 4:52:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: Travis McGee

Mr Cameron: Seven words lacking “You Riot we put a boot up your ass”

Face palming to see how far the UK has fallen from Baroness Thatcher


20 posted on 08/15/2011 11:32:20 PM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: slapshot

The preposition a not included as a word.

We are seeing the pussification of Western Civilization
Too many words not enough head knocking


21 posted on 08/15/2011 11:35:25 PM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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