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Rick Perry's Ace in the Hole: Rudy Giuliani
Fox Nation ^ | 8/15/2011 | Chris Cillizza (WaPo)

Posted on 08/15/2011 10:51:07 PM PDT by South40

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani continues to mull the possibility of a 2012 presidential bid, but his true power in the race may come if he decides against running and instead throws his support to Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

The two men are good friends, and Perry was the only Republican governor in the country to endorse Giuliani’s presidential campaign in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: friends; giuliani; perry; perry2012; rickperry

1 posted on 08/15/2011 10:51:10 PM PDT by South40
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To: org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; stephenjohnbanker; ...

Perry’s Ace in the hole!


2 posted on 08/15/2011 10:52:42 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40

I never thought we’d get a TS VP before getting a female one.


3 posted on 08/15/2011 10:53:39 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: South40

I don’t understand how anyone thinks they can get a pro abortion candidate through a republican convention.

Adding Giuliani on the ticket could knock anyone out of the race.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 10:54:07 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: South40
Rick Perry, talks like a conservative, votes like a RINO.
5 posted on 08/15/2011 10:54:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: South40

6 posted on 08/15/2011 10:56:18 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: South40

Insane.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 10:58:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Just keep the oath. Why is that so much to ask?)
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To: South40

Well if that thing is his “ace in the hole” then he will drop in the polls fast.


8 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:17 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: South40

Well if that thing is his “ace in the hole” then he will drop in the polls fast.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 10:59:38 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: tsowellfan

lol!


10 posted on 08/15/2011 11:00:20 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40
BARRIO PERRY

11 posted on 08/15/2011 11:00:51 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: Yosemitest
I don't think he talks like a conservative, he just says he is one.

In a speech in Mexico in 2007, he said he supported completely open borders, calling for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”

RINO to the core.

12 posted on 08/15/2011 11:02:45 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: tsowellfan

Oh wow. In looking at the pic you posted compared the one I posted I realize Rudy has dressed like that on more than one occasion.


13 posted on 08/15/2011 11:04:10 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40

I guess that’s a step up from his ‘88 endorsement of Al Gore.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 11:06:56 PM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: South40

Rick and Rudy, loser and loser, two peas in a pod.


15 posted on 08/15/2011 11:08:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: proudpapa

Not by much when you consider they both have a liberal agenda.


16 posted on 08/15/2011 11:10:52 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: Sea Parrot

Two rotten peas and both are on the left side of the pod.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 11:14:45 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40

18 posted on 08/15/2011 11:19:07 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: BuckeyeTexan; DJ MacWoW; Windflier; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; Lakeshark; South40
The two men are good friends, and Perry was the only Republican governor in the country to endorse Giuliani’s presidential campaign in 2008.

Well, how about that! algore and also Giuliani!

Lots to learn about the Governor of Texas.

19 posted on 08/15/2011 11:23:35 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: leapfrog0202

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE

Freepathon Day 46

20 posted on 08/15/2011 11:24:52 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Mount Athos

Maybe people forget that Rudy is pro PARTIAL BIRTH abortion. He’s discussed it many times with Sean Hannity, so it should be public knowledge.


21 posted on 08/15/2011 11:34:54 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you THUG B@st@rd!)
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To: South40
This is an old cartoon, so don't forget to add the "Anti-Communist Health Care" and "Pro-Communist Health Care" podiums:


22 posted on 08/15/2011 11:36:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: South40

Rick and Giuliani, Rick and Giuliani, Rick and Giuliani,
Something stinks..


23 posted on 08/15/2011 11:47:41 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: South40

That's why the "PRESS-titutes" will keep shoving him in our face.

24 posted on 08/16/2011 12:11:15 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: onyx
Perry is a terrible candidate and he would be a terrible pro-open borders president. Yet his liberal apologist supporters are working overtime to push him as a conservative.

Perry could have endorsed pro-life Duncan Hunter, he could he endorsed pro-life Mike Huckabee and he could have endorsed pro-life Fred Thompson. Heck, he could have held his nose and endorsed pro-life Juan McCain. But he chose to endorse PRO-ABORTION Rudy Giuliani instead.

Two peas in a pod.

25 posted on 08/16/2011 12:30:31 AM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
Maybe people forget that Rudy is pro PARTIAL BIRTH abortion. He’s discussed it many times with Sean Hannity, so it should be public knowledge.

Some could have forgotten and some could just not care. I think the majority of his supporters just don't care.

26 posted on 08/16/2011 12:32:46 AM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: Mount Athos

If Sarah announces, she gets 2 checks from me, one for 20.12 and one for 2016. Suck that Chris.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 12:37:05 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: Yosemitest
And let's not forget...

Perry is for open borders,
Perry opposed Arizona's SB 1070 saying, "I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona". Even if he didn't think it was 'right for Texas', when Obama and the left were attacking AZ over the issue conservatives sided with AZ, open borders Perry did not.
Rick Perry opposed Obama’s stimulus plan but took billions in stimulus money to balance the Texas budget,
Perry was hand-picked by Karl Rove and is an establishment Republican.
He does not deserve the support of the conservative base.

28 posted on 08/16/2011 12:38:27 AM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40
"I don't think he talks like a conservative, he just says he is one. "

He's NOT a Conservative. I have very mixed feelings about his candidacy. On the pro side- He's done a great job for Texas for 10 plus years, governing as a financial conservative. He has the appeal, gravitas, whatever to whip the crap out of Buckwheat, as well as the money. He CAN and WILL win the primary and the election. On the Con side- I have a close, trusted relative, whom I refuse to identify, who worked for Perry closely, and he hates him. He says that Perry has surrounded himself with thugs, just like obama. He says Perry IS JUST LIKE obama. For myself, I find Perry to be very scary, but still better than obama.

29 posted on 08/16/2011 12:54:21 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller
He CAN and WILL win the primary and the election

I can't see it. From what I've read these past few days he'll be an easy target for his opponents and the press. His past cannot withstand the scrutiny it is sure to get.

30 posted on 08/16/2011 1:05:37 AM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
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To: South40

Perry’s speeches make GW Bush sound like a sissy.

But of course the Perry record doesn’t match the tough rhetoric.


31 posted on 08/16/2011 1:14:26 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: South40

I hope Palin runs, and wins, and I will support her. I will support Bachmann if Palin doesn’t run. But if Perry wins the nomination as I believe he will, I probably will have to support him. Dumping Buckwheat is the main priority.


32 posted on 08/16/2011 1:15:58 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: South40

PRO-ABORTION Rudy Giuliani WAS TOAST when Florida didn’t come through for him.

What a dumb pick anyway, and what conservative Evangelica would choose a pro-abortion candidate to endorse? Or is Governor Perry a Methodist like pro-abortion former First Lady Laura Bush?


33 posted on 08/16/2011 2:40:14 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

Guiliani would be hard-pressed to beat Huntsman for 6th place.


34 posted on 08/16/2011 3:43:52 AM PDT by wny
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To: South40; All
Since you brought it up... what is Perry's stance on illegals and border control?

The "big sin" he's associated with is a Texas dream law 10 years ago which passed with veto proof majorities. It was tightened in 2005 by unanimous consent of the legislature and a repeal bill never even made it out of committee this term. Here's an FR thread explaining the Texas dream law.

Perry's signed bills against human trafficking (HB 1372, 4008 & SB 11 of '07), on increased border security (probably the Rangers on the border he's mentioned; HB1 of '07), for tougher employer sanctions (HB 1196 of '07), on document fraud (HB 126 of '07) and signed Voter ID. Source: http://www.txcc.org/illegal-immigration & Reuters (Voter ID signing)

As he mentioned in the Waterloo, IA Q&A Sunday, he did send Rangers to the border: Texas governor sends Rangers to Mexico border (2009)

He also mentioned arial assets on the border:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says Predator drones should patrol Texas border (2009)

Texas gets a second aerial drone for border security (2011)

He's not for amnesty or "pathway to citizenship" as a reward:

In A December 2006 editorial, Gov. Perry wrote: "I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship." and "Along with millions of Americans, I think it is wrong to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship ahead of those who have followed the law and are waiting to enter this country legally. And like millions of Americans I do not support amnesty." (Emphasis mine.)

Source: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/

He's a critic of E-Verify's lack of impact on Texas but it is used in thousands of Texas business although not required. However, Texas does require and use the I-9 "employment eligibility" forms which is where E-Verify is supposed to take its info. So in a real sense Texas already verifies eligibility, and under Perry it became harder on employers who violate the law and those who provide documents to defraud employers. Hutchison says Texas state doesn't use E-Verify to weed out undocumented workers applying for jobs (PolitiFact, 2010)

A mandatory E-Verify bill failed to pass the Texas legislature this year Business leaders say mandatory ‘E-Verify’ plan would harm small businesses (2011)

Perry also got a ban on driver's licenses for illegals through too (SB 1). ID measure passed quietly, while sanctuary cities bill died noisily

A bill banning "sanctuary cities," added by Perry to the recent special session, passed the Senate but failed in the Texas House. Same story as above: ID measure passed quietly, while sanctuary cities bill died noisily

Gee. Look at that! Old open borders RINO Rick, Governor Goodhair. He's never done anything about illegal immigration or border control. /s

35 posted on 08/16/2011 4:03:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey (WI on Tues: Kim Simac vs. fleebagger Holperin)
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To: South40

The two men are good friends, and Perry was the only Republican governor in the country to endorse Giuliani’s presidential campaign in 2008.

That’s enough for me. What conservative would endorse Guiliani?


36 posted on 08/16/2011 4:07:13 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: South40
Rick Perry's Ace in the Hole: Rudy Giuliani

ROOTY?!?

an aside: Someone at Fox Nation is dyslexic.
I'm pretty sure that 'Ace In the Hole' isn't correct.

37 posted on 08/16/2011 4:12:45 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: matthew fuller; All
An organization the Dallas Morning News calls a "Texans for Public Justice, a liberal Austin watchdog group" has a "primer" report out on Perry http://info.tpj.org/reports/pdf/perryprimer.fin.pdf (Acrobat PDF)

(short digression) I have suddenly realized why Obama went from state legislator to Senator to President: it's the IDEAL pathway to avoid scrutiny, to avoid a paper trail of having to make real decisions, major appointments or most anything that might cast suspicion and reach the White House. In that sense, he's a perverse genius.

I know more about Perry than I know about most family members and he's been a candidate about 3 days. Obama? You can't ask! That's racist! (apologies for digressing.)

I'd be careful throwing the word "thugs" around. We certainly know what that means with Obama. His administration is dripping with Chicago crime family knee-cappers.

I found to resign for endorsing Kay Bailey Hutchison. That may have been to score points for Kay Bay or maybe it was a little bit of "hardball," who knows. I didn't find any follow-up. Other personnel changes I saw were routine.

I read a piece linked from that TPJ "watchdog" report. It was written by Dallas Morning News about a land deal Perry made and the crap they pile in there to make it sound more scandalous is amusing including mentioning some Dem donor's dead father's ex-business partner paid kickbacks to Saddam Hussein. Then there's something about a guy having an airplane used for an arms deal in a conflict that killed thousands or something. None of it had anything to do with the land sale. It was pretty amusing and written like juvenile literature.

It's obvious from the TPJ primer and hit pieces on Perry already coming out in the national press, the Left is leading with their old "Republican politicians are rich, corrupt, amoral wheeler dealers" template.

(When does Obama get vetted?)

38 posted on 08/16/2011 5:44:06 AM PDT by newzjunkey (WI on Tues: Kim Simac vs. fleebagger Holperin)
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To: South40; fieldmarshaldj
Just a nice little bump to you after Perry bashing Haley for endorsing Romney.

RINOs, all of them.

39 posted on 12/17/2011 9:44:26 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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